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Posted by B1bus on Wed Apr 6 02:39:09 2016, in response to Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Apr 3 15:46:45 2016. Just give vouchers for cab/car services already. |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 6 20:44:49 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 31 12:30:09 2016. Makes sense, Queens Center Mall and Roosevelt Field are the most profitable malls in NY, no? Both have easy access to roads and transit. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Apr 7 08:21:56 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 6 20:44:49 2016. I'm sorry that I don't understand your point. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 7 08:33:23 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Apr 7 08:21:56 2016. Me neither. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Apr 7 22:28:16 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Apr 7 08:21:56 2016. Malls that try to prevent a lower-class element from shopping there tend to be less profitable, compared to malls that welcome everybody. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 7 22:51:30 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by northshore on Thu Mar 31 12:26:37 2016. Enclosed shopping malls aren't really dying, it was more they were built too large or too close to other ones [or started discouraging lower middle class from shopping there]. Think a combination of natural selection and right-sizing. In colder climates, outdoor strip malls are more likely to have empty storefronts (or may even be abandoned in their entirety). |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Apr 8 22:52:32 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Apr 7 22:28:16 2016. It's not just the shoppers. When Broadway Mall in Hicksville evicted the buses, some stores closed because their employees couldn't get to work. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 9 10:32:13 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Apr 8 22:52:32 2016. When Mid-Island Plaza got rebuilt into Bway Mall, they didn't want "those people".I think it was a mall near Buffalo did the same about 20 years ago. Then an employee, mother of a 7 year old, got killed crossing the street to get to work in the mall. Also in the early 1990's, Century II mall in the Pittsburgh South Hills temporarily banned buses when they assumed a robber took a bus to get out. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 9 22:24:21 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 9 10:32:13 2016. Pittsburgh South Hills temporarily banned buses when they assumed a robber took a bus to get out.That just sounds so implausible. Anti-transit assholes would believe that. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Apr 9 22:36:04 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 9 10:32:13 2016. ["I think it was a mall near Buffalo did the same about 20 years ago. Then an employee, mother of a 7 year old, got killed crossing the street to get to work in the mall."] I remember that story. It was in Tonawanda, and the woman's family tried to sue both NFTA and the mall. NFTA responded that it had tried for years to put the buses on mall property but the owner kept rejecting the buses. The mall owner denied keeping the buses out, but then tenants pointed to clauses in their leases specifically promising to allow charter buses but not public buses. |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 10 07:21:35 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 9 22:24:21 2016. It happened one day. Read it in the Post Gazette posted somewhere.Buses were tossed out of Century II mall. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Apr 10 08:11:22 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Apr 7 22:28:16 2016. Exactly |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 10 11:39:17 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 10 07:21:35 2016. I believe you that the mall did that, but I think that their claim is bullshit. |
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Posted by Joe on Sat Aug 27 12:14:50 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. Since the n80 and n81 were reinstated, I have been observing their ridership when they pass near the Massapequa LIRR station. At most, I have seen 3 passengers on board. It would be interesting to see ridership figures for the entire system, but dropping service for five months teaches passengers how to travel with other means, or some may have to change jobs if they cannot get to work at low enough fare.--- The eastern end of N19 was cut back to Sunrise Mall, and over the NICE years the number of scheduled runs has been reduced. I see fewer riders on the N19 than in the LIBus era. If ridership drops, management lengthens headways. If management lengthens headways, ridership drops more. --- Well, my surprise was to see the first Saturday eastbound N54 pass the Massapequa post office this morning, shortly after sunrise on Sunrise Highway. It left Hempstead at 6:00. There were at least a dozen passengers, and it was bound for Sunrise Mall and Amityville. Three workers got off at Broadway. One woman appeared to head for the Zwanger-Pesiri nearby, which would open at 8 a.m. Two man went different directions, maybe grab a coffee and then head to work near Merrick Road (supermarket, etc.). My point is that bus transit serves a public benefit: getting the low-paid workers to businesses before they open in the morning. I don't see the workers going in flocks to a big factory (as River Rouge), but rather beginning a day's labor at the stores and services we expect to use. Had I boarded that 6 a.m. departure from Hempstead, I may have found a crowd starting with the trip, but also a fair amount of on-and-off boarding, as the Jerusalem Avenue Bus Line may have been intended to do when it began around 1930. |
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