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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Mar 27 11:33:51 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. Will the N20/21 be through-routed again? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 27 13:14:32 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. Well I am very surprised, especially with the RVC and Freeport shuttles" but some will change their routes slightly and use smaller “Flexibus” vehicles." My Goodness. I suggested just that and everyone said it was a bad idea, most of the cost is the driver, and they wanted uniform equipment. |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun Mar 27 15:26:09 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. What's going to happen in June of 2017? The funds get cut again and the routes are gone?😯 |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 16:15:26 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by caine515 on Sun Mar 27 15:26:09 2016. Maybe they think using a "Flexibus" will be more cost effective so it wouldn't require much funds to run those routes past June 2017, or maybe they want to show that the routes really aren'the worth it by using the "Flexibus". |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 16:17:54 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. What is "Flexibus"? Is it just a nicer term for a smaller bus or is there an actual bus model called Flexibus? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 27 17:05:43 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 16:17:54 2016. Maybe they have a few of these in mind they found in a junk yard:http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=1302063 |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by Joe on Sun Mar 27 18:54:35 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. Someplace in my boxes of slides I have photos of the vans used on N73 for a few years. As the streetcar companies of 1910 discovered, you special fleets become a nuisance on route assignments.--- My worry is that the passengers who used to ride the north-south routes to Hicksville have been permanently lost to other methods of getting there. Taxis are too expensive, but some people can find friends who will drive them somewhere. |
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Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Mar 27 19:24:49 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe on Sun Mar 27 18:54:35 2016. MSBA had Orion II minibuses. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 27 23:32:21 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by northshore on Sun Mar 27 11:33:51 2016. Those weren't considered a cut, so no.I mean, the n21 riders got their weekend service back, and the service actually runs a little bit later along Northern Blvd than it used to, so if anything, it's a service addition. |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Mar 28 11:13:51 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. i don't see them ordering smaller buses because a lot of NICE routes are interlined. A bus could be assigned to the N14/N17 and then go to the N16 route..i know MSBA had 35 foot Gillig Phantom buses..were they interlined? |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon Mar 28 13:24:39 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 27 13:14:32 2016. They could negotiate lower wages for drivers of smaller vehicles or even use a different contractor with lower wage costs to operate the Flexibuses.Savings always come from screwing people who work for a living. |
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Posted by BusMgr on Mon Mar 28 17:43:19 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. No mention of route N19. Nassau County might want to use that service as leverage to get a contribution as well from Suffolk County. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Mar 28 17:56:39 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 27 23:32:21 2016. Forcing everybody to transfer in Great Neck is actually a disservice. I would through-route them again, but keep the hold time in Great Neck as added running time. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 28 18:07:35 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by merrick1 on Mon Mar 28 13:24:39 2016. Depends if they are "air-brake" or "motor coach" certified I would think ?In my county, we have drivers that do just Para-transit vans. They cannot drive transit-type buses. The wage difference is $1,500 per year. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 28 18:09:14 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by caine515 on Mon Mar 28 11:13:51 2016. Well maybe that will just have to stop. In fact, it already did. They obviously can run the N16 without interlining because there is no N14 or N17 now. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 28 18:14:20 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Mon Mar 28 17:43:19 2016. Didn't Suffolk play around with their Sunrise Mall bus to take its place ?I don't think NICE and Magnano give a shit about Suffolk County patrons, not that he cares much about his own either. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Mar 28 19:55:56 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Mon Mar 28 17:43:19 2016. I don'the think Suffolk would agree to pay a contribution for the N19.Also Suffolk and Nassau have a history of disagreeing about contributions for bus service, if I remember correctly an argument between the two counties over contributions for MSBA operating the S40 in the 70's led four years of poor service from Alert Coach. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 02:19:37 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Mar 28 17:56:39 2016. With the split, you have the option of transferring at Northern & Middle Neck Road, rather than looping in and out of Great Neck. And delays on one half of the route don't affect service on the other half. Somebody on another forum mentioned that since the split, there have no longer been delays of 30-40 minutes waiting for a bus in Flushing to come all the way from Hicksville.For example, if a bus comes 10 minutes late during rush hour, the buses run every 10 minutes anyway for the most part. So you get to send the bus out, and passengers can simply take the next bus. |
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Posted by BusMgr on Tue Mar 29 07:39:39 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Mac5689 on Mon Mar 28 19:55:56 2016. Then Nassau County should not restore route N19. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Mar 29 11:37:59 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Tue Mar 29 07:39:39 2016. Since Suffolk extended the S20 to Montauk Hwy, I bout Nassau or NICE considered restoring the Sunrise Mall-Babylon RR portion of the N19.Why should Suffolk pay Nassau for the N19 to go to Babylon RR? Suffolk doesn't pay Nassau for the other routes that enter Suffolk, and to my knowledge Nassau never payed Suffolk when the S20 use to go to the Kohl's in Massapequa Park. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Mar 29 11:41:31 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 28 18:14:20 2016. Yeah Suffolk turned the S20 into a short of loop and extended it to part of Montauk Hwy that was covered by the N19. One assumes it was done to take the place of the N19, to my knowledge nothing was ever publicly said about why the change was done. |
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Posted by northshore on Tue Mar 29 12:47:02 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 02:19:37 2016. The buses run on an hourly headway. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 16:37:30 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 02:19:37 2016. Not during rush hour they don't. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Mar 29 19:13:44 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by northshore on Tue Mar 29 12:47:02 2016. On Sundays perhaps. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Mar 29 19:16:58 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Mac5689 on Tue Mar 29 11:41:31 2016. How is the new S20 doing anyway? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 29 19:22:46 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Mar 29 19:13:44 2016. The last ones on weekday nights too IIRC. |
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Posted by BusMgr on Tue Mar 29 19:36:22 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Mac5689 on Tue Mar 29 11:37:59 2016. The S20 service adjustment was a quick jury-rigged response. I doubt that any serious effort had been undertaken as to the optimal permanent solution, be it the implementation of an N19 replacement (or N19 restoration), S40 extension, outright abandonment, or the S20 adjustment that was actually implemented. I would watch here for future developments.Likewise, the N72 ought to be discontinued in the absence of financial contribution by Suffolk County (or unless it can be shown that, on the margin, the N72 operation to Babylon is profitable. The reason that Suffolk County should pay for the N19 service between Sunrise Mall and Babylon is that is a Suffolk County transit service. True, this transit service does cross the county line to enter Sunrise Mall, but that is simply because it is a traffic generator for passengers traveling to and from Suffolk County desire to patronize. That same reasoning can be used to justify the operation of N70 and N79 into Suffolk County, i.e., that these two routes are effectively providing service to traffic generators within Suffolk County to Nassau County passengers, rather than providing service within Suffolk County. |
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Posted by northshore on Tue Mar 29 19:41:31 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Mar 29 19:13:44 2016. The N20H runs half hourly weekdays and the N21 runs hourly weekdays |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Mar 29 19:49:30 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Tue Mar 29 19:36:22 2016. After the N19 ran Freeport - Patchogue under Utility Lines, MSBA took it over, and for some reason drew their own jurisdictional line at Babylon rather than at Sunrise Mall, Massapequa Park, or Amityville.I do remember the early S40 operation. They used 2nd hand, later model ex-Schenck Fishbowl transits (white with red stripe) that were not offered for sale to MSBA. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Mar 29 21:17:50 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Mar 29 19:16:58 2016. That I have no idea. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Mar 29 21:26:59 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Tue Mar 29 19:36:22 2016. Makes sence though the problem probably lays with ownership of those routes. Since Nassau owns them Suffolk sees no need to pay for the service. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 23:07:16 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Tue Mar 29 19:36:22 2016. Most of the passengers riding the n72 to Babylon come from Nassau County. A standalone route running from say, Babylon to Farmingdale would get much lower ridership (since not only does it force passengers along Hempstead Turnpike to transfer, but it also forces a double transfer for anybody who needs to connect to another route. For example, the n49 to reach Hicksville). |
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Posted by BusMgr on Wed Mar 30 03:22:21 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 23:07:16 2016. What is it in Babylon that would draw Nassau County residents, more so than Suffolk County residents traveling locally? If there were such a traffic draw, as I think is the case with the NICE bus service to Walt Whitman Mall, then I might well have second thoughts about the N72. (An interesting side note: I understand that on route N20, between Flushing and Great Neck, more passengers reside in New York City than Nassau County.) |
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Posted by BusMgr on Wed Mar 30 03:26:56 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe V on Tue Mar 29 19:49:30 2016. Since MSBA took over the entire operation, all the way to Patchogue, the N19 division at Babylon might have been the result of just having two shorter, and presumably more reliable, bus routes, in which case the choice of Babylon as the division point was somewhat arbitrary (but it would create a common terminal for three MSBA routes). It might also have reflected difference levels of demand and service for the two halves of the N19. Nit the point is that the division was probably not related to allocation of subsidy requirements between Nassau and Suffolk Counties, but rather for operational reasons. |
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Posted by northshore on Wed Mar 30 07:58:26 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Wed Mar 30 03:22:21 2016. Sunrise Mall in Massapequa used to be as big draw. I don't know if it still is. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Mar 30 17:34:14 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by BusMgr on Wed Mar 30 03:22:21 2016. The transfers to all the other bus routes, as well as the LIRR attract customers. Not sure if it's necessarily Suffolk County or Nassau County residents (for all I know, some of them could be Suffolk residents traveling to points along Hempstead Turnpike, coming off the SCT buses).Along Route 109, a lot of it is a wide highway, which leads to a lot of dead mileage within Suffolk. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Mar 30 21:35:41 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Mar 29 02:19:37 2016. [With the split, you have the option of transferring at Northern & Middle Neck Road....] It's still a forced transfer for most riders, plus an added fare for some. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Mar 31 00:24:37 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Mar 30 21:35:41 2016. NICE said that they programmed in an additional transfer for passengers affected by the split. |
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Posted by Joe on Thu Mar 31 10:02:04 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by northshore on Wed Mar 30 07:58:26 2016. Westfield, the Australian owner of Sunrise Mall, runs prosperous malls in other places, including Sarasota, Florida. However, if I need to kill time at Sunrise Mall while my wife shops in one department store, I walk both levels and attempt to count the empty stores. Westfield uses various camouflage to hide unleased space, but I easily hit a dozen. On Sunrise Hwy, when I look at the N54/N55 buses heading to/from Sunrise Mall, I rarely count more than five passengers, no matter the time of day.--- People ride transit to get to work, to reach county offices (as the welfare office at 60 Charles Lindbergh on N16), to shop, plus other reasons. I see workers in the early morning fanning out from Hempstead to employment in Seaford and Massapequa, but I don't see big ridership on the routes into Sunrise Mall. It puzzles me. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 31 11:10:48 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe on Thu Mar 31 10:02:04 2016. Did they try to go "upscale" with useless boutiques aimed at 20-somethings, then could not stay in business ? |
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Posted by northshore on Thu Mar 31 12:26:37 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by Joe on Thu Mar 31 10:02:04 2016. Buses at Sunrise Mall used to stop outside Gertz department store, until the mall required that the stop be moved to a remote parking lot due to rowdy teens and shoplifters. Also enclosed shopping mall are a dying. Furthermore most Nassau/Suffolk residents have cars.So there is likely few bus passengers. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 31 12:30:09 2016, in response to Re: NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by northshore on Thu Mar 31 12:26:37 2016. In the 1990's , mall operators were throwing buses out to keep away "those people", on Long Island and elsewhere. That and "going upscale" have put themselves out of business. |
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NICE -- "Flexi-Bus" Service |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Apr 2 08:46:45 2016, in response to NICE Bus cuts to be mostly restored in June 2016, official says, posted by gOld_12th on Sun Mar 27 09:49:54 2016. Excerpted from an article in the Long Island HeraldMost of the lines will return to their pre-elimination service levels, Nevin explained. But the N2/8 an N14/17 routes will change slightly. He noted that these two lines, along with the N62 and N73/74, will employ what’s called “flexi-bus” service. Kraus explained that it is not possible to restore every line stop by stop. The flexible service system, however, will allow NICE to operate some parts of some low-volume routes, and offer some “on-demand” service. “Providing more service on busier routes, where resources benefit more riders, is preferable to providing service that is far more costly on underutilized routes,” he said. Does anyone know more about this or how this works? Either in general in other systems or specific to NICE would be of interest to me. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 2 09:18:47 2016, in response to NICE -- "Flexi-Bus" Service, posted by Charles G on Sat Apr 2 08:46:45 2016. In the 1970's, MSBA had a 40' Fishbowl chopped to 30', and used it on the N14. It was not very road worthy, but even then, they were looking for solutions.Bee Line, RVC Bus Corp, and the MSBA Fishbowl era meant 35' buses ran on the N1,2,3, and14. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Apr 2 10:13:29 2016, in response to NICE -- "Flexi-Bus" Service, posted by Charles G on Sat Apr 2 08:46:45 2016. Some clues here.Looks like it's all about only running the bus where they know people will be on board. How people inform the agency they will be there to board I guess is up to the particular agency. For the 73/74 I wonder if the idea is to try to streamline the buses in the Levittown area so they aren't going "off-course" when there's no need to. For the 14 and 17, it may be run the 17 and only extend around the 14 loop to the extent that there is demand. For the 62 it would probably be run a bus when people want it. What is left open in some cases is do you run a bus if one person asks for one, and how this is helpful if you have to have buses ready anyway. When will be the latest before the trip that someone can "ring" for the bus? And how do you "ring?" |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Apr 2 10:39:10 2016, in response to Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Apr 2 10:13:29 2016. Thanks -- it seems most of those routes are quite long, running through many villages. By comparison some of the routes that NICE is going to convert are quite short. I think the N14 probably had only 15 stops on the entire loop.This ought to be interesting to watch. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Apr 2 10:53:26 2016, in response to Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service, posted by Charles G on Sat Apr 2 10:39:10 2016. Yes, I too got the impression that this system is good for very spread out areas, not so much a town or a group of two towns that are probably going to just link you to fixed-route service, as would be the case for the NICE routes in question. I also get the impression that where this system is used, ridership is low enough that you can basically ask for any corner in the town, not necessarily where the old fixed-route used to be.But the idea of "applying" for a bus I think will be a huge problem for some people. For some people 1 or 2 "rejections" will be enough for them to stop considering the service. |
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Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Apr 3 15:46:45 2016, in response to Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Apr 2 10:13:29 2016. They'll probably require you to reserve a trip say, an hour in advance. Then, they'll tell the operator "Alright, the next hour, you're going to go to points A, B, C, and D"Some systems also allow "standing reservations" so if somebody needs say, an 8AM bus every day, they just reserve it automatically so the person doesn't have the hassle of calling them in advance. (I know if I wake up 10 minutes late, anything off my mind is one less hassle to deal with) |
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Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Apr 4 16:15:25 2016, in response to Re: NICE -- ''Flexi-Bus'' Service, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Apr 3 15:46:45 2016. Maybe it'll be integrated into the GoMobile app? |
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