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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 7 09:38:40 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 6 17:54:58 2016.

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Untrue.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 7 14:18:54 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 7 09:38:40 2016.

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No it's not.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 7 17:47:35 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 7 14:18:54 2016.

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Yes it is.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 7 18:22:28 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 7 17:47:35 2016.

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No it's not.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:26:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 7 18:22:28 2016.

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Yes it is.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 7 18:33:34 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:26:58 2016.

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No it's not.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:38:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:26:58 2016.

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Brooklyn Bus and I said it is. 2 outvotes outweigh yours. You lose again.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Tue Jun 7 19:57:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:38:58 2016.

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Brooklyn bus is a delusional pathological liar. You have a personal vendetta against the person who made the statement. Neither is left with much credibility.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 20:01:59 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 7 19:57:51 2016.

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Let's see. Cryin' Whinin' Weinberg draws first blood and you accuse me of a personal vendetta. LOL.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 7 20:03:56 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 20:01:59 2016.

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Weinberg draws first blood

You realized that means he was right and you were wrong, don't you?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 20:12:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 7 20:03:56 2016.

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No, I was right and he was wrong.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 7 23:20:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:38:58 2016.

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Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:38:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:26:58 2016.
LOL! Talking to yourself again!?!?!? You're an idiot.

You lose again.
Yes, you do lose. As always. LOL!!!!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 7 23:20:41 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 7 19:57:51 2016.

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Brooklyn bus is a delusional pathological liar. You have a personal vendetta against the person who made the statement. Neither is left with much credibility.
Exactly.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 23:40:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 7 23:20:26 2016.

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Since you reading comprehension is terrible, I'll make it easier for you to understand. Terrapin Station loses again and again and again. You just make me laugh. I'll bet Brooklyn Bus is laughing as well.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 7 23:51:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 23:40:11 2016.

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Since you reading comprehension is terrible,
Nope, it's great. You talked to yourself in that post: Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:38:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 18:26:58 2016.



Terrapin Station loses again and again and again.
Nope, I've won every time. It's my game, my rules. And you're late to the party.

You just make me laugh.
That's about all I can expect, since you lack the intellect to really internalize what I'm telling you.

I'll bet Brooklyn Bus is laughing as well.
Can't disagree with you there! But it's ok, since far more people are laughing at him!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 8 08:10:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 7 23:51:14 2016.

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I laugh at the amount of time you cut and paste poster's responses and put your own twist on it. It just proves that I'm right about you.

Fired as a mail clerk. You're probably on welfare because you can't find a job and instead of looking for one, you spend all your time here.

It's highly unlikely you'll ever grow up and amount to anything in this world.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by fdtutf on Wed Jun 8 10:30:46 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 20:12:10 2016.

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But that's not what you said.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:21:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 7 19:57:51 2016.

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First it was dementia. Now it's a delusional pathological liar. What are you going to come up with next? You can't refute the facts, so you have to resort to name calling and insults. Very professional. No wonder you are friends with Terrapin and you both agree with each other on most everything.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:21:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 7 20:12:10 2016.

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Correct.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:22:46 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 7 23:20:41 2016.

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Exactly what I just said. Birds of a feather flock together. Neither one of you has any credibility left with all your rants and baseless insults.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:24:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 8 08:10:44 2016.

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True statement. He is just jealous of others who have accomplished more than he will ever accomplish.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:41:27 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:28:31 2016.

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No. such are not comparable statistics. Annual rate of each is what matters, not chance per crossing. Your crossing numbers have no real relevance to what is being discussed. See Merrick1's post for the actual numbers here.

My statistics are definitely comparable and I was speaking about the annual rate of each as you stated. I agree with the 1 in a million chance in a year of getting struck by lightning. Here is what I said again:

"If we assume that those odds are the same in New York City, we then have to compare the number of safe street crossings versus the number of crossings that result in injury or death in a year. Including visitors, there are about 14 million people in New York City everyday. If each person crosses the street only twice, that is 28 million crossings per day. If we multiply that by 300, we have at least 8,400,000,000 crossings per year. So there would have to be more than 8,400 injuries and deaths per year for your chances of getting hurt crossing the street to be greater than being struck by lightning. The number of annual pedestrian deaths in NYC are under 200 with about another 1200 injuries. So your chances of getting struck by lighting is roughly eight times greater than getting hurt or killed crossing the street in NYC, and that number doubles if each person crosses an average of four streets instead of two every day."

Just because you say those statistics are not comparable, does not make it true. It is eight times more likely that you will get struck by lightning than be killed crossing the street. That takes the annual statistics of both and extrapolates it to your chances of getting killed crossing the street by comparing it vs the chance of getting struck by lightning. Perfectly valid comparison.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:47:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 14 20:32:59 2016.

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That's because you didn't bother to look.

It's slide 45 here:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/brt-woodhaven-may2016.pdf

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 8 12:48:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:24:57 2016.

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Thank you.

Jealous people try to destroy those they are jealous of. I used to be jealous of men who danced better than me. Instead of letting the jealousy consume me with hate and anger, I tried harder in my lessons and got better and I'm no longer jealous of them.

Terrapin and R30 continue to isolate themselves on this list. And they are proud of it.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 8 12:49:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:47:16 2016.

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P3owned!!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 8 13:08:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:09:16 2016.

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Two extra minutes in traffic on Woodhaven? Guess you haven't checked out DOT's latest report on the results from their newly installed bus lanes north of Metropolitan. It shows average traffic speeds dropped from 19.5 to 12 mph during the AM peak northbound, a 38 percent decrease.

Which is 1.38 extra minutes in traffic over the area studied, Furmanville Avenue to Metropolitan Avenue. Extrapolated over the length of the bus lanes, it's a whopping three minutes. And that's without traffic signal improvements.

It shows that bus speeds also declined slightly since the lanes were installed.

Due to cars in the bus lane, according to Slide 44.


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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:32:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:47:16 2016.

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It shows that it is LESS than two minutes, as Ripta shows.
Again you make up shit whenever you want.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:33:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:41:27 2016.

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Except the numbers you keep on using are meaningless. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE REAL NUMBERS. WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THEM UP. YOU ONLY INSIST ON DOING SO BECAUSE THE REAL NUMBERS PROVE YOU WRONG.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:35:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:21:20 2016.

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You are clearly delusional and pathological.

I don't believe I have ever claimed dementia, but I'd believe it.

I have CONSTANTLY used facts to demonstrate that your repeated lies are in fact lies.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 8 14:10:55 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:33:57 2016.

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So you're saying he's using the imaginary numbers?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 14:15:29 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 8 14:10:55 2016.

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Not imaginary in the mathematical sense. :)

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 18:24:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:33:57 2016.

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You have the real numbers of how many safe street crossings occur every day or year? Please share them with us. Or are you saying the number of safe crossings do not matter and only the ones where pedestrians are injured or killed count?

Wrong. They are both important to ascertain how dangerous the streets really are. I was not using any I imaginary numbers. I was actually being very conservative by assuming the average pedestrian crosses only four intersections a day. In reality the number is far higher.

And how do real numbers prove me wrong? You made a statement so back it up.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 23:40:12 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 18:24:26 2016.

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"You have the real numbers of how many safe street crossings occur every day or year? Please share them with us."
No. I never said I did.

"Or are you saying the number of safe crossings do not matter and only the ones where pedestrians are injured or killed count?"
Correct. They are wholly irrelevant if you are comparing incidence rate of automobile-pedestrian incidents to lightning strikes.

"Wrong."
No. Such is not wrong.

"They are both important to ascertain how dangerous the streets really are."
Correct! But you were not talking about how likely it is to hit when one crosses the street. You were comparing it to getting struck by lightning! For which such is absolutely useless in a comparison!

"I was not using any I imaginary numbers."
You were not using square roots of negative numbers, correct. You were using made up numbers.

"I was actually being very conservative by assuming the average pedestrian crosses only four intersections a day. In reality the number is far higher."
YES YOU WERE! In general crossing the street is MUCH safer than your estimate showed on a per exposure basis. BUT YOU WERE COMPARING IT TO LIGHTNING STRIKES WHICH AREN'T BEING CONSIDERED ON A PER EXPOSURE BASIS. Say one spends 50 hours of the year crossing the streets and potentially being hit by cars. They are spending 8766 hours of the year being potentially hit by lightning!

"And how do real numbers prove me wrong? You made a statement so back it up."
I already did.
To quote Merrick's better numbers than mine:
Number of people treated for vehicle-pedestrian collisions: 150,000
Number of people treated for lightning strikes:
297.
Getting hit by a car crossing the street is not less likely. Not even just more likely. Not even just a lot more likely.
FIVE HUNDRED TIMES MORE FUCKING LIKELY.
And that is without considering the exposure difference that you were trying to bring in, which would shift it substantially against your argument, as you were only considering exposure for automobile accidents and not lightning.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:22:03 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 8 12:48:50 2016.

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Damn right we are proud to be isolating ourselves from idiots like you two! LOL!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:24:32 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:24:57 2016.

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Oh G-d I just love when two idiots are bantering back and forth about things they know nothing about, fake-patting themselves on the back for things they've completely screwed up. I'm bookmarking this. This is going to be priceless when they find out what many people here already know. LOL!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:27:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:21:44 2016.

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Not correct.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:27:43 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Wed Jun 8 10:30:46 2016.

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😆

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:28:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:35:18 2016.

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Truth.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:30:04 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:21:20 2016.

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LOL! He's always using the truth to prove you wrong. So am I. For example, it's the truth that no US State in the Union in its right mind tells drivers to wait three seconds after a light turns green to start moving. Yet you waited. You did the WRONG thing and you can even acknowledge it.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:31:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 8 12:22:46 2016.

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Nope. It's just like what R30 said. You two have bio credibility (not that you ever had any to begin with).

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:33:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 14:15:29 2016.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:36:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 23:40:12 2016.

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Omg so much pwn3ge here I'm dying of laughter!!!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:37:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 8 13:32:15 2016.

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Owned!!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jun 9 00:37:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 8 13:08:42 2016.

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M'f'ing OWNED!!!!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 9 13:19:13 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 11:02:47 2016.

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Maybe I have daddy-brain, but I have no freaking idea what you are saying here. I don't understand how your commentary on my statement shows my statement to be incorrect. R30A, some help here please?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 9 13:19:41 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:10:02 2016.

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TS is wrong here.
What am I wrong about?

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 9 13:20:54 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:05:41 2016.

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Brooklyn Bridge isn't giving any crap.
Yes he is. Almost non-stop. It's right in front of your face and you can't see it!

You're just upset that your spell didn't work over Cornell Park.
Huh? Cornell Park and me are cool.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 9 13:21:24 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:55:41 2016.

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Yes, you are wrong as usual.

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Re: Terrapin Station Takes Awesome Photos

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 9 13:23:38 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station's Photos NOT as good as Salaam's, posted by nostalgia on Sun May 29 18:52:19 2016.

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And you'll stop at nothing, including destroying this board
I've already destroyed the board. And it's OK, because it's my board and I'm the moderator, obviously.

Up to now, you haven't convinced Brooklyn Bus he's always wrong.
That's not what I'm trying to do. Because he's NOT always wrong. I just point out whenever he IS wrong.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 9 13:50:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 9 13:19:41 2016.

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In disagreeing with Vision Zero!

If you end up agreeing with Allan Rosen, you're probably wrong ;)

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