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Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 27 09:36:40 2016, in response to Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 17:25:47 2016. I don't remember the MTA routing a bus to Wonderland.The MTA ran buses to Wonderland prior to the 1964 formation of MBTA. 
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:44:10 2016, in response to The Real Terrapin Station, posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 08:19:07 2016. Great post! |
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Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 10:46:29 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 27 09:36:40 2016. I meant the NY MTA. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:50:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Thu May 26 21:16:51 2016. You certainly have previously stated that the majority of drivers do not know how to drive. You have repeatedly stated that most drivers do not give pedestrians the right of way and therefor do not know how to drive.And of course you always have to rewrite my statements to prove you are correct. I STATED THAT YOUR CHANCE OF CROSSING THE STREET SAFELY IS GREATER THAN YOUR CHANCE OF BEING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING. You went ahead and changed STRUCK BY LIGHTNING" to BEING KILLD BY LIGHTNING. Those are two totally different statements. Learn to respond to what sone one is writing, not your REINTERPRETATION of what they stated. If you can't understand that or are incapable of doing that, then perhaps you are the one who is INSANE, not anyone who disagrees with you which you have defined as insane. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:51:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 23:10:34 2016. You are really letting him have it. Owned. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:53:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:44:49 2016. Here we go again. Just accusations without any justification. Par for the course for you. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 10:53:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:50:30 2016. Great Post!! +10,000 |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:54:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:44:06 2016. Look who is talking! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 10:54:05 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:51:18 2016. He deserves it. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:54:37 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:42:01 2016. No. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:54:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:40:19 2016. No. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:55:24 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:07:53 2016. Correct! |
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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:55:41 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:37:33 2016. No. |
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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:56:23 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:06:57 2016. Great Post. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 10:56:23 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:51:18 2016. He deserves it. |
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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:57:36 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:36:52 2016. Yeah we now all now that the only way to increase capacity is to increase service which is what you stated. |
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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:57:56 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:36:13 2016. No. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 11:02:47 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by Terrapin station on Thu May 26 19:32:00 2016. You certainly did."For those who don't agree with you, it's more of an issue of YOU being flat-out wrong rather than Vision Zero/NYC being flat-out correct." The 25 mph speed limit is the MAJOR part of Vision Zero. You can't disagree with that and still call Vision Zero a good plan by saying it isn't "flat-out correct". You can disagree with other parts of Vision Zero and still consider it a good plan. BUT YOU CANNOT TAKE THE MAJOR FEATURE OF IT, and say it is bad, but on the whole it is a good plan. That is what you have done. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:03:32 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:50:30 2016. "You certainly have previously stated that the majority of drivers do not know how to drive. You have repeatedly stated that most drivers do not give pedestrians the right of way and therefor do not know how to drive."I have never said either statement. "And of course you always have to rewrite my statements to prove you are correct. I STATED THAT YOUR CHANCE OF CROSSING THE STREET SAFELY IS GREATER THAN YOUR CHANCE OF BEING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING." No you didn't- But you did make the claim of struck instead of killed. Mind you, that makes it an even more invalid comparison. "You went ahead and changed STRUCK BY LIGHTNING" to BEING KILLD BY LIGHTNING. Those are two totally different statements." Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that your statement was wrong. roughly 10X more likely to be killed crossing the street than to be struck by lightning. (lightning strikes have roughly a 10% fatality rate. ) "Learn to respond to what sone one is writing, not your REINTERPRETATION of what they stated. If you can't understand that or are incapable of doing that, then perhaps you are the one who is INSANE, not anyone who disagrees with you which you have defined as insane." Plenty of people disagree with me and are sane. You disagree with me and are insane. Whether or not they disagree with me is not what makes them sane or not. The fact that you are insane is what makes you insane. |
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Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty |
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Posted by merrick1 on Fri May 27 11:09:23 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty, posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 10:46:29 2016. 
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:10:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 11:02:47 2016. Obviously he can, as he has done so.But 25MPH is good policy anyway. TS is wrong here. (And as you can see, I am not calling him insane. Just wrong. Because he is not insane. Just wrong.) |
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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!) |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:11:51 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:06:57 2016. Do you have a history at all outside of nagging one person on this board?I don't think I have ever seen you post anything at all except for complaints about TS. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 11:11:55 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed May 25 18:52:25 2016. Did you even bother to reread the second sentence you wrote? It is such a complex and run on statement, it is just not even understandable. It is the type of statement lawyers purposely use so they can interpret it any way they feel like depending on the situation.I can't respond if I have absolutely no idea what I am reading. As far as your first statement, that isn't even accurate. Assuming capacity is the number of passengers that can be serviced within one hour with buses passing a specific point, scheduled frequency is not the only variable. If buses are arriving erratically, the capacity is reduced if the buses are not arriving on time because buses leaving before their scheduled departure time or right behind another bus may not get as full as they could get thereby reducing the actual number of passengers serviced within the given time period. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:18:12 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 11:11:55 2016. "Did you even bother to reread the second sentence you wrote? It is such a complex and run on statement, it is just not even understandable. It is the type of statement lawyers purposely use so they can interpret it any way they feel like depending on the situation.I can't respond if I have absolutely no idea what I am reading." LOL. POT-KETTLE. Either way, I'll break my point down for you. In the same sentence, you said that A. You were assuming bus capacity was remaining the same. and B. You cannot assume bus capacity remains the same. "As far as your first statement, that isn't even accurate. Assuming capacity is the number of passengers that can be serviced within one hour with buses passing a specific point, scheduled frequency is not the only variable. If buses are arriving erratically, the capacity is reduced if the buses are not arriving on time because buses leaving before their scheduled departure time or right behind another bus may not get as full as they could get thereby reducing the actual number of passengers serviced within the given time period." We were not discussing erratic service. It has nothing to do with what was being discussed. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 15:16:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:18:12 2016. With your A and B, I think you are referring to something Nostalgia wrote, not something I wrote. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 15:18:37 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:10:02 2016. Of course he can do whatever he wants. That doesn't make it right. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 15:20:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 15:16:57 2016. "THE ASSUMPTION IN THAT WAS BUS SIZE REMAINS THE SAME." - BrooklynBus"I explained how capacity could go up without service going up using the example of bus size increasing." - BrooklynBus |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 16:17:19 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:03:32 2016. You can actually state that you have never complained about drivers in general in NYC. not giving pedestrians the right of way as a problem? If so, then you are a liar.I stated exactly what you quoted that your chances of crossing the street safely is greater than your chance of being struck by lightning. NOW YOU SAY THAT IS NOT WHAT I STATED. And you add that using "struck" instead of killed makes it "an even more invalid comparison" That is utter nonsense. Then you state that you are ten times more likely to be killed crossing the street than to be struck by lightning? What is your source? (The fatality rate from lightning strikes is irrelevant to this discussion.) The odds of being struck by lighting within a period of one year in the US is approximately 1 in a million according to the National Weather Service. http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/odds.shtml If we assume that those odds are the same in New York City, we then have to compare the number of safe street crossings versus the number of crossings that result in injury or death in a year. Including visitors, there are about 14 million people in New York City everyday. If each person crosses the street only twice, that is 28 million crossings per day. If we multiply that by 300, we have at least 8,400,000,000 crossings per year. So there would have to be more than 8,400 injuries and deaths per year for your chances of getting hurt crossing the street to be greater than being struck by lightning. The number of annual pedestrian deaths in NYC are under 200 with about another 1200 injuries. So your chances of getting struck by lighting is roughly eight times greater than getting hurt or killed crossing the street in NYC, and that number doubles if each person crosses an average of four streets instead of two every day. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 16:28:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 15:20:02 2016. You said I made both statements in the same sentence. I did not.This is the post you are referring to: Let's recap. This was Terrapin's statement: Capacity is a function of service. If service goes down, capacity goes down. If one goes up, they both go up. I repeated his second sentence, saying it was correct. THE ASSUMPTION IN THAT WAS BUS SIZE REMAINS THE SAME. Then I stated the second part of what he said was incorrect. That if one goes up, they both go up. I explained how capacity could go up without service going up using the example of bus size increasing. THAT PROVES PART OF WHAT TS STATED IS WRONG. So by saying I made both statements in the same sentence you are once again misquoting me. |
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Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 16:41:18 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty, posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 10:46:29 2016. It's still funny. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by merrick1 on Fri May 27 16:48:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 16:17:19 2016. According to the CDC in 2013 4735 pedestrians were killed in traffic crashes and more than 150,000 pedestrians were treated in emergency rooms for non-fatal traffic crashes.According to NOAA on average between 2004 and 2013 33 people per year were killed by lightning and 297 were injured lightning pedestrian MVAs |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:28:31 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 16:17:19 2016. "You can actually state that you have never complained about drivers in general in NYC. not giving pedestrians the right of way as a problem? If so, then you are a liar."Yes, I can. I complain about the bad drivers, not most drivers. Most drivers are substantially better than you. "I stated exactly what you quoted that your chances of crossing the street safely is greater than your chance of being struck by lightning. NOW YOU SAY THAT IS NOT WHAT I STATED. And you add that using "struck" instead of killed makes it "an even more invalid comparison" That is utter nonsense." Your chance of crossing the street safely is close to 1 in 1. your chance of getting struck by lightning is roughly 1 in a million, if I accept your number. Obviously not similar. "Then you state that you are ten times more likely to be killed crossing the street than to be struck by lightning? Yes! "What is your source?" I googled it. See Merrick1's post. I was rounding generously as you'll see. "(The fatality rate from lightning strikes is irrelevant to this discussion.)" Fatality rate from lightning strikes is certainly relevant if you are working from the number of fatalities to figure out number of strikes (which is what I was doing.) "The odds of being struck by lighting within a period of one year in the US is approximately 1 in a million according to the National Weather Service. http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/odds.shtml" Ok. same rough order of magnitude as I had. "If we assume that those odds are the same in New York City, we then have to compare the number of safe street crossings versus the number of crossings that result in injury or death in a year. Including visitors, there are about 14 million people in New York City everyday. If each person crosses the street only twice, that is 28 million crossings per day. If we multiply that by 300, we have at least 8,400,000,000 crossings per year. So there would have to be more than 8,400 injuries and deaths per year for your chances of getting hurt crossing the street to be greater than being struck by lightning. The number of annual pedestrian deaths in NYC are under 200 with about another 1200 injuries. So your chances of getting struck by lighting is roughly eight times greater than getting hurt or killed crossing the street in NYC, and that number doubles if each person crosses an average of four streets instead of two every day." No. Such are not comparable statistics. Annual rate of each is what matters, not chance per crossing. Your crossing numbers have no real relevance to what is being discussed. See Merrick1's post for the actual numbers here. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:31:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 16:28:36 2016. I was unclear. I apologize.The same sentence was referring to the single sentence by Terrapin Station. You were still absolutely wrong as my post makes clear however. |
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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!) |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 21:35:18 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:11:51 2016. I made posts. The last one was on subchat that the New Rochelle Metro North train schedule has the wrong dates listed on the footnotes.I haven't seen TS start threads, just ambush them. |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 28 03:21:46 2016, in response to The Real Terrapin Station, posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 08:19:07 2016. Why flower it down?Tell him the TRUTH ina language he can understand,since he is uncivilized. Hes a certified card carrying member of the Asshole Society of Assholes Incorporated. |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sat May 28 07:29:50 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 28 03:21:46 2016. That posting isn't for TS' benefit but for the board. I used to get angry when he attacked me. I can't control his behavior but I can control mine. Instead of getting upset, I've tried to understand his behavior.Calling him an asshole doesn't help understand his behavior. Understanding he craves attention and will write anything to get attention, even if it's negative, (that's the attention deficit disorder), makes it easier to deal with him. Now, I don't get upset. I've gained a lot of transit understanding, especially when the boards were part of nycsubway.org. The owner, David Pirman(?) shut them down when the posts went overboard because he didn't want to become liable for posters getting physically hurt from threats from other posters. We should be able to enjoy sharing information. I'm tired of TS hijacking the boards for his personal amusement. The moderator is sleeping. Posting about his behavior is the only method I have to call him out on his attacks. |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by FWT9000 on Sat May 28 10:58:33 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 28 03:21:46 2016. I keep reading his posts hoping to see some of those great pictures he used to post. Wish he would go back to taking pics |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 28 16:49:19 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by FWT9000 on Sat May 28 10:58:33 2016. So do I, I really liked his photos. |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 29 03:43:57 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by FWT9000 on Sat May 28 10:58:33 2016. Thats his redeeming qualities.He takes damn good photos esays. From my perspective,he likes to "play the game" with folks,just to rattle a few cages. Nothing wrong with a HEALTHY DEBATE,as long as it remains HEALTHY. He sets the bait..if You bite,then that's on you. Other than that...this " tantrum" shown here,has run its course quite some time ago...and,I know Brian is getting his kicks out of it. Dude...seriously,its time for the theatre to end. |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by Fwt9000 on Sun May 29 04:57:04 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 29 03:43:57 2016. Your analysis is spot on. Agreed. Wish the others would listen and we can bring the bus discussions back |
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Re: Terrapin Station Takes The Real Photos |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun May 29 11:43:21 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by FWT9000 on Sat May 28 10:58:33 2016. Thanks guys! I really appreciate the kind words about my photos. I still do take rail photos, just not as many as before. But I don't post them because I don't have time anymore to process them, upload them, and caption them. Too much else going on in my busy life, with work and family. I do miss it though. |
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Re: Terrapin Station Has not time to take Photos |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun May 29 12:18:52 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station Takes The Real Photos, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun May 29 11:43:21 2016. Maybe you would have more time if you stop fighting with Brooklyn Bus. |
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Re: Terrapin Station Takes Awesome Photos |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun May 29 18:37:53 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station Has not time to take Photos, posted by nostalgia on Sun May 29 12:18:52 2016. Nope. BrooklynBus must be shown to be wrong. Because he's wrong. |
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Re: Terrapin Station's Photos NOT as good as Salaam's |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun May 29 18:52:19 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station Takes Awesome Photos, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun May 29 18:37:53 2016. And you'll stop at nothing, including destroying this board, to accomplish your mission.Up to now, you haven't convinced Brooklyn Bus he's always wrong. But that won't stop you. |
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Re: The Real Terrapin Station |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 3 13:56:49 2016, in response to Re: The Real Terrapin Station, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 29 03:43:57 2016. If anyone remembers, before he started criticizing everything I post, I once stuck up for him regarding his photo taking qualities when some others here were criticizing him.But after he started attacking me for no reason, I never defended him again. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 3 14:12:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:31:20 2016. Your post makes nothing clear. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 3 14:15:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 3 14:12:36 2016. Because you do not understand reality, let alone transportation. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 6 16:52:32 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 3 14:15:48 2016. Say what you wish. Doesn't make it true. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 6 17:54:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 6 16:52:32 2016. The fact that what I say is true is what makes it true, not the fact that I say it. Much like when you make false statements, the fact that they are false is what makes them false, not the fact that you said them. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jun 6 19:30:00 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 6 17:54:58 2016. Excellent post. |
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