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NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010

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Looking through my archives, I came up with a bunch of bus rosters from 1973 thru 1976 and one from 1991.

As my time permits, if there is interest amongst the board, I'll be posting them from time to time.

We start out with NYCT from Jan. 1, 1973.

ENY: 501-548 ('60), 3853-3900 ('63), 4153-4202 ('69), 4300-4341 ('70), 6140-6163 ('71), 6235-6249 and 6939-6947 ('72). Total: 236.

FLAT: 567-603 and 693-695 ('60), 5001-5100 ('64), 8081-8122 ('66), 6000-6089 and 6191-6199 ('71). Total 281.

Crosstown: 761-771 ('60), 3750-3784 ('63), 8041-8080 ('66), 6315-6334 ('72). Total 106.

Fifth Ave.: 772-775 ('60), 1001-1060 ('61), 3698-3749 ('63), 4000-4099 ('69), 6925-6938 ('72). Total: 230.

Ulmer Park: 776-781 ('60), 1061-1099 ('61), 3785-3852 ('63), 8829-8848 ('68), 6090-6139 and 6178-6190 ('71), 6285-6314 ('72). Total: 226.

Fresh Pond: 650-692 ('60), 1100-1130 ('61), 3660-3697 ('63), 8001-8040 ('66), 4100-4152 ('69), 6335-6349 ('72). Total: 220.

Flushing: 782-796 ('60), 5601-5790 ('65), 4416-4455 ('70), 6200-6234 and 6948-6956 ('72). Total: 289.

Jamaica: 797-805 ('60), 2001-2175 ('62), 3901-3950 ('63), 4342-4415 ('70), 6164-6177 ('71). Total: 322.

Staten Island: 549-566 and 634-649 ('60), 3601-3659 ('63), 5101-5165 ('64), 8801-8828 and 8849-8933 ('68), 4456-4499 ('70), 6250-6284 and 6901-6924 ('72). Total: 374.

Manhattan: 604-633 and 696-760 ('60), 8123-8202 ('66). Total: 175.

Enjoy

Next: MABSTOA Jan. 1, 1973.







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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by busdude2 on Thu Oct 21 19:00:32 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Those were real buses back then.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 21 19:26:50 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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I assume that when you meant "Manhattan", you meant 126th St Depot, right?

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 19:36:39 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 21 19:26:50 2010.

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At that time, 126th St. depot was called Manhattan.

It said "Manhattan" on the roster sheet and that's exactly how I wrote it up!

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 20:14:16 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Those had to be basic rosters but I remember more odds and end buses at Fresh Pond. There were a bunch of 1st generation GM New Looks at FP until sometime early 1974. Manhattan (126 St.) also had many odds and ends as well.
This January 1, 1973 roster lists the 62/6300's. Somehow I remember, though I may be wrong, that the 62/63/6900's arrived later during 1973 and the 7000/9000 series Old Looks were retired when they arrived.
Thanks for posting, keep em' comming.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Oct 21 20:26:46 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 19:36:39 2010.

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Right. Also, I remember that MAN were the letters on the fareboxes

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Oct 21 20:28:51 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Awesome. It's great seeing rosters of the buses I grew up riding. Thanks a bunch for sharing and please do post more.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 20:37:31 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 20:14:16 2010.

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I always thought that the 6200/6300/6900's were 1973's but all my rosters state they are from 1972.

The 7000/7100's are stated to be from 1973, but I thought they were 1974's.

I know I'm being picky for 1 year, but maybe that's the year they were actually ordered.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 20:39:28 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by WayneJay on Thu Oct 21 20:28:51 2010.

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Glad you enjoyed that.

It is very tedious typing these up and it takes time.

Hopefully I'll have the next one up by late Sunday.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Oct 21 20:48:33 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 20:37:31 2010.

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I think it might be the year ordered. I was living in Illinois from June 1971-June 1974, but I came back to NYC at Christmas time (once for Easter) and summers. I don't remember seeing the 7000/7100 Flxibles until I arrived back in NYC for good on 6/22/74. They definitely weren't around during Christmas 1973. Same for the 6000/6100s, didn't see them until April 1972.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 21:10:16 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 20:14:16 2010.

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You're right.

I just noticed that at the bottom of the roster page there were 100 GMC 5301's (the 9000/9100 old looks) in storage. They are listed as 1959's, but I thought they were 1958's ( with the 7000's from 1957). Naturally many ran to make service requirements. Here's another one: I always was under the impression that 501-805 were 1959's. Oh well!

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 21:13:24 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Oct 21 20:48:33 2010.

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Yes, that was probably the order year. We are probably correct about the 62/63/6900's arriving during 1973. The last of the Old Looks were replaced by those.
The 7000/7100 series Flxibles did arrive during 1974, I believe they replaced the 1st generation fishbowls (1-190).
I think the 6000/6100's arrived early 1972. I may have seen these (which were the first two tone blue buses) before the older fleet had the two tone blue repaint.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Oct 21 21:15:42 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 21:10:16 2010.

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Those are 5106s (the 9000s and 9100s).

Thanks for the roster.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Oct 21 21:17:07 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Thanks. Did the Yukon Avenue or Edgewater Street depots exist yet, or was it just Castleton (Staten Island) garage at the time?

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 21:20:37 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 21:10:16 2010.

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Actually, Old Looks 7000-7208 (1957's) and 9000-9120 (1958's) were 5106's. those 100 GMC 5301's were 1-190 (1959's). 501-805 were 1960's.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 21:22:55 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Oct 21 21:17:07 2010.

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Castleton was around, Yukon wasn't. I don't know much about Edgewater.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 21:23:27 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 21:20:37 2010.

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Oops, right again. The 100 beese in "storage" would be from the 1-190 series.

Time to call it a night when the brain isn't working anymore.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Westcode44 on Fri Oct 22 12:20:34 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Here's a question>> rumor has it that 1972 G.M. 6948 came with hard seats (all grey) the other 6900's were delivered with high back express style seating. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 15:45:05 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Westcode44 on Fri Oct 22 12:20:34 2010.

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True. 6948 was the only 6900 that had the grey longitude hard seats. Fifth Ave. (JG) and Flushing (CS) both had this bus. I've seen it running along Metropolitan Ave. in Queens once but not sure if it was assigned to FP or was just passing through.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Dave Wallace on Fri Oct 22 16:47:47 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Thu Oct 21 21:13:24 2010.

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In reference to:

"The 7000/7100 series Flxibles did arrive during 1974, I believe they replaced the 1st generation fishbowls (1-190)."

Sorry - but you may be wrong on that one. In the years between '76 and '80, I saw double digit Fishbowls on the 79th Street Crosstown buses. They were notable to me because of their very low numbers, i.e. 11, 14, 39. I was surprised to see buses with anything less than 4 digit numbers as that was pretty typical back then.

But in the late 70's, I did see them more than once as I was driving a medallion cab. FWIW - I only saw Fishbowls with those very low numbers in Mahattan on the Upper East and Upper West Sides.


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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 18:03:58 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Dave Wallace on Fri Oct 22 16:47:47 2010.

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Here's a photo of NYCTA #68 on MABSTOA Bx12 at Pelham Bay Station taken by Joe Caronetti. The caption posted at the Bus Talk Galleries webite dates the photo around the early 80's. This bus has the orange license plates so it must be around 1974 or later. #68 was at Fresh Pond sometime around 1973. I don't recall when this series left FP but I know they weren't there after 1974. I guess some of these lasted a bit longer than I thought.


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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 22 19:43:45 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Westcode44 on Fri Oct 22 12:20:34 2010.

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Yup, I do remember seeing 6948 at Manhattan/Nassau Ave's. one day on the B61 not too long after Fifth Ave. took over the route after XT depot ceased operation.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 22 19:46:18 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Notice ENY has 9 express buses assigned (6939-6947). Anybody know which express route came out of ENY?

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by The TransitMan on Fri Oct 22 19:46:51 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 19:36:39 2010.

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Ok. No need to yell. I was born in 1978 so I wouldn't know that. Thanks anyway.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 20:18:21 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 22 19:46:18 2010.

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I noticed that but don't recall any express routes operating from ENY. Couldn't be the Train to the Plane, that was years later.
Wait, just thought, B88, Culture loop II.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 22 20:28:55 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 20:18:21 2010.

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I thought Fifth Ave. supplied Culture Loop II.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Oct 22 20:58:59 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 22 20:28:55 2010.

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I know in it's last years the B88 Culture bus definitely operated from FI.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 21:15:08 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 22 20:28:55 2010.

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Not sure now. When you asked which express route operated from ENY, I thought you knew the answer and was asking as a trivia question...LOL. Actually, I will still go with ENY on the B88. Here's a photo of 6946 on the B88 during the same year those 6900's were at ENY. Fifth (JG) received them years later for Express routes.

NYCTA #6946 working route B88-Culture Loop II at Seventh Avenue & West 34th Street. Photograph taken October 21, 1973 by Doug Grotjahn; collection of Joe Testagrose, posted on BusTalk Galleries.



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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 23 20:56:46 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 21:15:08 2010.

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I would be suprised that the ENY 6900's were for the Culture Loop since they would be "sitting" around for 5 days and be only used for 2, but you never know!



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MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 24 16:56:35 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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As promised, here we go, amount/'year in parenthesis. For the novice, Flxibles are 4600-4727, everything else are fishbowls.

Model year 1960: 3101-3202 (102) listed officially in storage, surely some were out and about. You'll see the other 18 were at KB. Looks like the last 10 (3211-3220) were air conditioned, but my gut tells me that it wasn't very reliable! Also officially listed in storage were 90 GMC model 5106's from '58 & '59 for a total of 192 in storage.

For the non air conditioned '65 model: 6701-6900 had wings.

I thought 8301 and up were '67's but I guess they were ordered in '66 so that's why they are called '66's. Of course all these had "wings" with a/c, if it worked! All orders 1966 and thereafter air conditioned in this roster.

My sheet is a bit blurry, so we do the best we can. Corrections, discussion and comments welcomed.

Hudson: 3482-3555 (74/'63), 5246-5325 plus 5516-5525 having wings (80+10/'64), 8452-8458 (7/'66), 4800-4819 (20/'72). Total 191.

54th St.: 5326-5400 (75/'64), 6736-6777 wings (42/'65), 8546-8619 (74/'66). Total 191.

100th St.: 5401-5456 (56/'64), 6642-6649 plus 6831-6875 with wings (8+45/'65), 8459-8477 express plus 8478-8545 (19+68/'66), 4500-4505 express (6/'72). Total: 202.

132nd St.: 3301-3342 (42/'63), 6796-6830 wings (35/'65), 8620-8695 (76/'66). Total: 153.

146th St.: 5201-5245 plus 5457-5515 (45+59/'64), 6706-6735 wings (30/'65), 8696-8780 (85/'66). Total: 219.

Kingsbridge: 3203-3220 (18/'60), 3452-3481 (30/'63), 6401-6511 (111/'65), 8301-8371 (71/'66), 4820-4839 (20/'72). Total: 250.

Coliseum: 3343-3356 plus 3358-3427 (84/'63), 6650-6700 plus 6701-6705 wings plus 6778-6795 wings plus 6899-6900 wings (51+5+18+2=76/'65), 4664-4727 (64/'69), 4840-4859 (20/'72). Total 244.

West Farms: 6512-6619 plus 6876-6898 wings (108+23/'65), 4600-4663 (64/'69). Total: 195.

Amsterdam: 3428-3451 (24/'63), 6620-6641 (22/'65), 8372-8451 (80/'66). Total: 126.

There you have it, enjoy.

Next installment: NYCT Jan. 1, 1974. Hopefully by next weekend at the latest.




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Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by WayneJay on Sun Oct 24 18:52:34 2010, in response to MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 24 16:56:35 2010.

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Cool. I especially appreciate the Bronx depots.

In '73 I was just 7 years old, but by the 1976/77 I pretty much had COL, KB and WF fleets memorized pretty well. Looks like a few of the newer buses moved around before pretty much settling for the next few years. I know that with the '69 Flxibles 4721-4727 eventually went to HUD. GMC 5309A 4833-4859 went to COL, 4813-4819 went to KB and all of the next group (4860-4919) went to KB.

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Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Oct 25 03:12:28 2010, in response to MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 24 16:56:35 2010.

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I always thought West Farms and Coliseum were the same depot. If you happen to know were they located and what routes they ran and could post it, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Sid from NJ on Mon Oct 25 12:40:17 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 22 15:45:05 2010.

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[True. 6948 was the only 6900 that had the grey longitude hard seats. Fifth Ave. (JG) and Flushing (CS) both had this bus.]

6948 was originally assigned to Flushing. I remember riding it in its first few weeks of life on the Q44A (today's Q46), which was a Flushing route prior to Queens Village.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Oct 25 13:02:48 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Fantastic post thank you for sharing. I would love to see the rest especially 1991. From my research on the Ohio Museum of Trasnportation those 6000-6100s are 1972 and the 6200s are 1973. The 7000 flxs are 1974 including 7340.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by 15 BEECHHURST on Mon Oct 25 13:22:34 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Please note the MaBSTOA 1962 roster in a previous post of mine. Interesting that said roster included depot at 12th Street and also Jackson Heights.

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Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Oct 25 15:21:08 2010, in response to Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Oct 25 03:12:28 2010.

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That would require some translation because many routes in the Bronx were renumbered in 1984.

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Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Mon Oct 25 17:47:19 2010, in response to Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Oct 25 03:12:28 2010.

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I always thought West Farms and Coliseum were the same depot. If you happen to know were they located and what routes they ran and could post it, I'd greatly appreciate it

Originally there were two separate depots. The West Farms Depot was located at 1825 Boston Road at 175 Street. It consisted of two buildings one of which I believe is still standing though abandoned and unused.

The Coliseum Depot was located at 1100 East 177 Street and Devoe Avenue. The Coliseum Building was torn down and replaced by the new West Farms Depot on the same site. The new combined depot opened in 2003 IIRC.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 29 19:49:47 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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System wide, there are 26 1960 model fishbowls (501-805 series) in storage with 115 active, but individual bus numbers are not listed at the depots that are running them.

New to the fleet: the 7000 series Flxibles: 7000-7204 (205).

ENY (16/'60), 3842-3900 (59/'63), 8877-8886 express (10/'68), 4158-4202 (45/'69), 4300-4341 (42/'70), 6140-6163 (24/'71), 7030-7069 (40/'73). Total: 236.

FLAT: 5001-5115 (115/'64), 8091-8137 (47/'66), 6000-6089 (90/'71) 7070-7089 (20/'73). Total: 272.

Crosstown: 3750-3784 (35/'63), 8031-8090 (60/'66), 6310-6329 (20' 72). Total: 115.

Fifth Ave.: 1001-1024 (24/'61), 3698-3749 (52/'63), 4000-4099 (100/'69), 6941-6956 express (16/'72), 7090-7134 (45/'73). Total: 237.

Ulmer Park: 1040-1074 (35/'61), 3785-3841 (57/'63), 8825-8857 (33/'68) and 8872-8876 express (5/'68), 6090-6139 (50/'71) and 6178-6199 express (22/'71), 6271-6309 (39/'72). Total: 241.

Fresh Pond: 1075-1130 (56/'61), 3660-3697 (38/'63), 8001-8030 (30/'66), 4100-4157 (58/'69), 6330-6349 (20/'72), 7135-7154 (20/'73). Total: 222.

Flushing: (10/'60), 2001-2069 (69/'62), 5601-5700 (100/'65), 8887-8895 express (9/'68), 4442-4455 (14/'70), 6200-6229 (30/'72), 7155-7204 (50/'73). Total: 282.

Jamaica: (24/'60), 2070-2175 (106/'62), 3632-3659 and 3901-3950 (78/'63), 4342-4441 (100/'70), 6164-6177 express (14/'71). Total: 322.

Staten Island: 3601-3631 (31/'63), 5116-5165 (50/'64), 5701-5790 (90/'65), 8801-8824 and 8858-8871 and 8896-8933 41 express and 35 to be converted to express (76/'68), 4456-4483 (28/'70), 4484-4499 express (16/'70), 6230-6270 (41/'72), 6901-6940 express (40/'72). Total: 372.

Manhattan: (65/'60), 1025-1039 (15/'61), 8138-8202 (65/'66), 7000-7029 30/'73). Total: 175.

Enjoy. Next Installment: MABSTOA Jan. 6, 1974.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74

Posted by Q11-Woodhaven on Fri Oct 29 20:20:27 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 29 19:49:47 2010.

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When in 74 did QV open

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 29 20:32:43 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74, posted by Q11-Woodhaven on Fri Oct 29 20:20:27 2010.

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The first roster I have with QV on it is from Sept. 8, 1974.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 29 21:00:33 2010, in response to Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/74, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 29 20:32:43 2010.

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That was the opening date.

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MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/6/74

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 29 21:12:18 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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System wide storage: 45 GMC model 5106 old looks ('58/'59), 3101-3220 (120/'60), and 3301-3334 (34/'63). New: Flxibles 7300-7361 (62/'73).

Hudson: 3335-3346 (12/'63), 5246-5325 (80/'64) and 5516-5525 wings(10/'64), 8452-8458 (7/'66), 4800-4819 (20/'72), 7300-7361 (62/'73). Total: 191.

54th St.: 5331-5400 (70/'64), 6736-6777 wings (42/'65), 8546-8619 (74/'66). Total: 186.

100th St.: 5401-5456 (56/'64), 6642-6649 and 6831-6875 wings (8+45/'65), 8459-8477 express and 8478-8545 (19+68/'66), 4500-4505 express (6/'72). Total: 202.

132nd St.: 3502-3555 (54/'63), 6796-6830 wings (35/'65), 8620-8695 (76/'66). Total: 165.

146th St.: 5201-5245 and 5457-5515 (45+59/'64), 6706-6735 wings (30/'65), 8696-8780 (85/'66). Total: 219.

Kingsbridge: 3361-3398 (38/'63), 5326-5330 (5/'64), 6401-6511 (111/'65), 8301-8371 (71/'66), 4820-4839 and 4860-4919 (80/'72). Total: 305.

Coliseum: 3399-3501 (103/'63), 6650-6700 (51/'65) with 6701-6705 wings and 6778-6795 wings and 6899-6900 wings (25/'65), 4664-4727 (64/'69), 4840-4859 (20/'72). Total: 263.

West Farms: 6512-6619 (108/'65) and 6876-6898 wings (23/'65), 4600-4663 (64/'69). Total: 195.

Amsterdam: 3347-3356 & 3358-3360 (13/'63), 6620-6641 (22/'65), 8372-8451 (80/'66). Total: 115.

Next Installment: NYCTA Sept. 8, 1974.

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Re: MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/6/74

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Oct 30 16:50:48 2010, in response to MABSTOA Bus Roster 1/6/74, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 29 21:12:18 2010.

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nice! Thank you for posting!

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NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens)

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 30 22:14:17 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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B53 Rich informs us that the date of this roster has the bus assignment for the opening of the then brand new Queens Village Depot. The property (and the actual building?) was the property of the former Duggan's (could be one "g") Baking Company. Sadly when that company went out of business (in the 1960's?) several cousins of my late father lost their jobs.

If you expected a new fleet, you're going to be sadly disappointed. Their total fleet was 246, with 105 (various from 1960 and 2100's from 1962) over 12 years old, with another 55 (5600 series Flxies) being 9 years old. Only 70 local and 16 expresses from 1970 and beyond. Rather than making wholesale re-assignments from throughout Brooklyn and Queens, the first QV fleet came from Flushing and Jamaica.

As with the NYCTA Roster from 1/1/74, various depots had beese from 1960, with no specific fleet numbers assigned. There were 131 of these active, with 50 listed in storage.

The roster notes that Fifth Ave. assigned bus 6948 was converted to hard seats.

And away we go, back into the archives of NYCTA History:

ENY: (16/'60), 3842-3900 (59/'63), 4158-4202 (45/'69), 4300-4341 (42/'70), 6140-6163 (24/'71), 7030-7069 (40/'73). Total: 226.

Flat: 5001-5115 (115/'64), 8091-8137 (47/'66), 6000-6089 (90/'71), 7070-7089 (20/'73). Total: 272.

Crosstown: 3750-3784 (35/'63), 8031-8090 (60/'66), 6310-6329 (20/'72). Total: 115.

Fifth Ave.: 1001-1024 (24/'61), 3698-3749 (52/'63), 4000-4099 (100/'69), 6939-6956 (17 express +1 local/'72), 7090-7134 (45/'73). Total: 239.

Ulmer Park: 1040-1074 (35/'61), 3785-3841 (57/'63), 8825-8857 (33/'68) and 8872-8876 express (5/'68), 6090-6139 (50/'71) and 6180-6199 express (20/'71), 6271-6309 (39/'72). Total: 239.

Fresh Pond: 1075-1130 (56/'61), 3660-3697 (38/'63), 8001-8030 (30/'66), 4100-4157 (58/'69), 6330-6349 (20/'72), 7135-7154 (20/'73). Total: 222.

Flushing: (13/'60), 2001-2076 (76/'62), 5601-5645 (45/'65), 4442-4455 (14/'70), 6200-6229 (30/'72), 7175-7204 (30/'73). Total: 208.

Jamaica: (5/'60), 2077-2101 (25/'62), 3632-3659 and 3901-3950 (78/'63), 4342-4391 (50/'70). Total: 158.

Queens Village: (31/'60), 2102-2175 (74/'62), 5646-5700 (55/'65), 4392-4441 (50/'70), 6164-6179 express (16/'71), 7155-7174 (20/'73). Total: 246.

Staten Island: 3601-3631 (31/'63), 5116-5165 (50/'64), 5701-5790 (90/'65), 8801-8824 and 8858-8871 and 8877-8933 (9 local + 86 express/'68), 4456-4483 (28/'70) and 4484-4499 express (16/'70), 6230-6270 (41/'72), 6901-6938 express (38/'72). Total: 389.

Manhattan: (66/'60), 1025-1039 (15/'61), 8138-8202 (65/'66), 7000-7029 (30/'73). Total: 176.

Enjoy.

Next Installment: NYCTA Jan. 1, 1976.


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Dugan's (Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens))

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 30 23:05:07 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 30 22:14:17 2010.

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The I suppose you don't want to look here then...

Remembering Dugan's Bakery

or here

Memories of Dugan's

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 30 23:10:04 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 30 22:14:17 2010.

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Thanks.

And how the QV fleet has remained almost the same, count-wise. Today, it's between 255 and 260 buses.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 31 00:06:17 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 30 22:14:17 2010.

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keep em coming !

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Re: Dugan's (Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens))

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 31 08:07:09 2010, in response to Dugan's (Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens)), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 30 23:05:07 2010.

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Thanks for the links.

I suppose the demise of Dugan's was a shot in the arm for Entenmann's.

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Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/76

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 31 09:28:40 2010, in response to NYCTA Bus Roster 1/1/73, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 21 18:41:40 2010.

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Continuing with our bus roster series, today the first production "Kneeling Buses" are now in service: Flxibles 7500-7659. All depots got them, Flushing got 10, everybody else got 15. This was a chance to see which depot really took good (or bad) care of their buses.

Quick story: "my" depot was Crosstown and we had 7530-7544. In contrast, Staten Island had 7630-7644. Naturally I compared them in my head. Once day I got on an S1 (or R1) at Port Ivory, bus 7630, a bit "newer" than 7530 from XT. It was already badly beat up inside and out and filthy on the inside. Never did ride it tho: b/o gets on and tries to start it: dead as a doornail!

With this assignment, Crosstown became the first depot with an all air-conditioned fleet on paper. They really tried, but there were many failures with the "winged" 1966's. My favorite air conditioned ones were the 6310-6329 series, they really pumped it out!

The 305 buses from the 1960 model year (501-805) are just about retired, with 111 in storage. Herewith the goods:

ENY: 3841-3884 (44/'63), 4158-4202 (45/'69), 4300-4341 (42/'70), 6140-6163 (24/'71), 7030-7069 (40/'73), 7500-7514 (15/'75). Total: 210.

Flatbush: 5001-5102 (102/'64), 8098-8137 (40/'66), 6000-6089 (90/'71), 7070-7089 (20/'73), 7515-7529 (15/'75). Total: 267.

Crosstown: 8031-8097 (67/'66), 6310-6329 (20/'72), 7530-7544 (15/'75). Total fleet: 102.

Fifth Ave.: 3708-3749 (42/'63), 4000-4099 (100/'69), 6936-6956 express (6948 local, 21/'72), 7090-7134 (45/'73), 7545-7559 (15/'75). Total: 223.

Ulmer Park: 3776-3840 (65/'63), 8825-8854 and 8872-8876 (26 express + 9 local, 35/'68), 6090-6139 (50/'71), 6180-6199 express (20/'71), 6271-6309 (39/'72), 7560-7574 (15/'75). Total: 224.

Fresh Pond: 3660-3707 and 3750-3775 (74/'63), 8001-8030 (30/'66), 4100-4157 (58/'69), 6330-6349 (20/'72), 7135-7154 (20/'73), 7575-7589 (15/'75). Total: 217.

Flushing: 2001-2074 (74/'62), 5601-5645 (45/'65), 4442-4455 (14/'70), 6200-6229 (30/'72), 7175-7204 (30/'73), 7590-7599 (10/'75). Total: 203.

Jamaica: 2075-2095 (21/'62), 3885-3950 (66'/63), 4342-4391 (50/'70), 6164-6171 express (8/'71), 7600-7614 (15/'75). Total: 160.

Queens Village: 2096-2175 (80/'62), 5646-5700 (55/'65), 4392-4441 (50/'70), 6172-6179 express (8/'71), 7155-7174 (20/'73), 7615-7629 (15/'75). Total: 228.

Staten Island: 5103-5165 (63/'64), 5701-5790 (90/'65), 8801-8824 and 8855-8871 and 8877-8933 (3 local + 95 express /'68), 4456-4483 (28/'70), 4484-4499 express (16/'70), 6230-6270 (41/'72), 6901-6935 express (35/'72), 7630-7644 (15/'75). Total: 386.

Manhattan: 3601-3659 (59/'63), 8138-8202 (65/'66), 7000-7029 (30/'73), 7645-7659 (15/'75). Total: 169.

Next and last installments: June 11,1991 broken down into divisions.

Enjoy and archive.

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Re: Dugan's (Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens))

Posted by B53RICH on Sun Oct 31 10:48:36 2010, in response to Re: Dugan's (Re: NYCTA Bus Roster 9/8/74 (QV Opens)), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 31 08:07:09 2010.

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The NYCTA bus fleet during the 70's.....
Dugan's cupcakes....
Oh, the memories!

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