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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:16:03 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Nov 19 15:32:26 2008. Actually, you do, because if you put at least $7 on a card, you get a 15% bonus. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:20:37 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 19 16:14:55 2008. We could always go with $10M bills, but then, a loaf a bread costs $1.5M |
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Posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 16:21:35 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:15:07 2008. That is also is another problem for express riders. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Nov 19 18:03:59 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 12:54:04 2008. Students do. On The QM1A now and when I was in middle school on the BXM3 you had to swipe the student card and put in 2.50 in change for the 5 bucks.I doubt I would pay 7.50 for express bus service. I'll take the 2 trains and a bus to get to/from school first. I already have a bone to pick with MTA over the X32. Whats the point of the bus serving the 2 Bx specialized high schools if I cant use my student metrocard on the bus??! |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Nov 19 18:37:25 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 19 16:14:55 2008. and also create $500 and $1,000 bill like some other countries have.Why would you *ever* want a $500 bill? Here in Britain, most shops won't even accept a £50 note (currently worth about $75) for fear of it being a fake. Over on the Continent, €500 notes have a reputation for being used by organized criminals. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 19 19:38:54 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 19 16:14:55 2008. IMO, the US government should cease production of the $1, $2 (if still made), and $5 bills within 2 years and replace them with coins. This would be a bean-counting measure. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 19 19:40:03 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 19 13:51:44 2008. Simple: bad P/R. The MTA is not in a position to suffer from bad public relations any worse right now. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 19 19:41:59 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Nov 19 14:55:35 2008. However, also, keep in mind that until it reaches the counting room, money from MTA (and Bee-Line) fareboxes is not touched for fear of theft. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Nov 19 20:40:12 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Wed Nov 19 14:47:47 2008. RIGHT ON!!!Another reason Canada makes more $en$e than the US... |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 20:45:21 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 12:36:41 2008. But how much would they REALLY pay? I keep on hearing how "high" the fare is now and how much it could become, but the fact of the matter is that the everyday commuter is paying much less than the actual fare. Why? Discounted MetroCards and free transfers between subway and bus. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 20:53:49 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:09:06 2008. So you pick your poison! |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 21:03:34 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Nov 19 12:58:41 2008. First of all the law is that MTA must have a balanced budget. It's the politicians who created the MTA, they hire the people to run it, so they have to go back to the politicians for more funding. It's a numbers game. The politicians don't want to suffer the ire of their constituents due to service cutbacks. They threatened express bus cutbacks in 1995 and worked it out. The X51 ridership was very vocal, I was at Queens Boro Hall at the public hearings. Second, as a regular poster you should be aware of this, express buses have much higher overhead than local routes. There is no turnover of passengers and new revenue coming in throughout the course of the trip and express buses have very high peak commuter traffic with not much off peak. With that, the buses are full coming in the AM, empty going back to the depot, empty coming in the afternoon and full going home. You can't park all of them in Manhattan during the day. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Wed Nov 19 21:52:54 2008, in response to OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by QM18Express on Wed Nov 19 10:41:20 2008. It's to deter people from using services. An express bus with 30 $5 paying riders will now have 10 $7.50 paying riders. The buses will get cut (insufficient ridership). Those remaining who pay $7.50 will lose interest in waiting 25 minutes instead of 10 minutes for a bus.What's with this New York City Transit Agency that is supposed to operate 250 AAR buses? Its supposed to cost less- 49 an hour? But hey, 6 bucks for a ride. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Nov 19 22:18:19 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Wed Nov 19 14:47:47 2008. Dollar coins are a pain IMHO. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 23:12:21 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by 7trainkrys on Wed Nov 19 21:52:54 2008. I don't think AAR takeover is about money. I think it has to do with the fact that coordinating 26 operators is a pain in the rear. A few are good and a few are really bad. It looks like the MTA will take all contracts that cost more than their service over. That makes sense. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 23:14:23 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by 7trainkrys on Wed Nov 19 21:52:54 2008. Are you saying that your 30 riders who are paying $5.00 a pop and your 10 riders who will pay $7.50 a pop are all paying cash and nobody is using a discounted MetroCard? |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 23:16:50 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Nov 19 22:18:19 2008. They are a pain but they deal with dollar and two dollar coins in Canada. Bus us Americans resist change. We thumbed our noses at the metric system too. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Wed Nov 19 23:19:59 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 23:14:23 2008. That unlimited is still getting jacked up. The MTA still has yet to disclose. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Wed Nov 19 23:20:36 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 23:12:21 2008. Thats what it is. 26! Someone has to list them all. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Wed Nov 19 23:56:06 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:15:07 2008. Do you use a TransitChek card? I know I was able to use a TransitChek card to pay for my EasyPay RFM account a few times |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Nov 20 00:01:26 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 19 15:05:50 2008. They need to put MVMs inside the Staten Island Mall, that would make me happy.None of the delis in the vicinity of the West Brighton area sell Metrocards, except for this one store at Broadway & Castleton that only gets a small portion of $4 cards that always gets sold out quick. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Nov 20 00:57:29 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 21:03:34 2008. It's the politicians that hire the ones that screw it up too. And the daily rider has to suffer for their mistakes. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Nov 20 01:07:38 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Nov 20 00:57:29 2008. Nothing is stopping the politician from firing the screw-up. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 20 01:10:55 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Nov 20 01:07:38 2008. Or the U.S. Attorney from having the politician and screw-up indicted. |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Nov 20 01:20:21 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Nov 20 00:01:26 2008. They also should put MVMs on some SIR stations like Huguenot, Eltingville, New Drop, Dongan Hills, Grasemere, Clifton.... |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 20 01:38:28 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 23:16:50 2008. They deal in Europe too. Lived there for 5 months earlier this year, never liked having 1 EUR and 2 EUR coins. I was in Vancouver for a few days in August 2007, and wound up with 15 CAD in dollar coins by the time I left because I never thought to look through the coin part of my wallet when I made small purchases, and then amassed a significant number of them. Unfortunately, the friend who I was visiting didn't want them either! |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Nov 20 02:44:44 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 16:05:00 2008. I fail to see where the "inconvenience" is. There is a simllar situation in the outer areas of Brooklyn, Queens, and The Bronx where there are no subway stations close by. First time riders pay cash the first time they ride a bus to a subway station, then they can purchase a Metro Card regularly from that point on. I would assume that thousands of people have gone through that routine since Metro Cards were originally introduced, and life is still going on as we know it. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Nov 20 02:50:22 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 20 01:38:28 2008. Unfortunately, the friend who I was visiting didn't want them either!Which makes no sense if your friend lived in Canada. Up there $1 and $2 coins are accepted everywhere since there are no corresponding bills. I assume if you lived up there, you would get used to the coins after a while and no longer forget to use them. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 20 06:36:11 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 20:45:21 2008. But how much would they REALLY pay? I keep on hearing how "high" the fare is now and how much it could become, but the fact of the matter is that the everyday commuter is paying much less than the actual fare. Why? Discounted MetroCards and free transfers between subway and bus.I'd also bet most express bus riders use unlimited-ride Metrocards. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Thu Nov 20 09:33:16 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 20 06:36:11 2008. The standard Unlimited MCs only provide Local rides.There is a special weekly one for Express rides. Regarding paying the cost of operations. That's political, Gov. George P. was the first one to make the customers pay more of the costs of operations, so it looks like we're going to get closer to that now. The unlimited local rides aren't that much cheeper then pay as you go unless you are in and out of the subway/bus all day long. Not many folks do that, so I don't see them going away. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 10:25:45 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 20 06:36:11 2008. I can't use the unlimited X-bus card because I will lose money. Pay-per-ride works better for me. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 10:29:03 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 19 20:53:49 2008. I left out area schools that aren't on or close to being on the failing list, or the most dangerous schools list. It's also close to my parents and other family, which is important to me with my son. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Nov 20 10:37:02 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Nov 20 02:50:22 2008. The times I've tried selling Canadian money to her, she only takes the bills. Maybe she took the loonies and toonies as well and just not the smaller change, I don't recall exactly. Considering I had over 15 CAD, I'm not sure why she wouldn't want it, but I do remember still being stuck with some amount of Canadian money larger than I needed to get myself to the airport and to buy breakfast there. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 10:44:18 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by QM18Express on Wed Nov 19 23:56:06 2008. No, my company doesn't do the debit card, supposedly there is additional cost involved. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 20 10:56:31 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 10:44:18 2008. So what kind of transitchek do you use? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 11:35:02 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 20 10:56:31 2008. I get PPR cards, which I refill/combine when they run low. Since my company closes for Jewish holidays, I am still using cards I got at the beginning of October. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Nov 20 12:05:11 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 10:44:18 2008. Ah I c. Good to know. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Nov 20 12:07:25 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 11:35:02 2008. So pretty much a unlimited x-bus plus unlimited won't really work for you due to the amount of days off you get?I know TransitChek has a X-Bus plus unlimited now since like last year. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Nov 20 12:53:32 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Nov 19 12:58:41 2008. You can always take the local bus and subway if you don't want to pay more to ride the express bus. Everyone is having to make difficult choices these days. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Nov 20 13:39:47 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Nov 20 01:20:21 2008. All passengers should be paying their fare. NYCT is losing a bundle there. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 20 13:45:05 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Nov 20 00:01:26 2008. Also, the MTA needs to move to proof-of-payment on the SIR. |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k8 on Thu Nov 20 14:17:41 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 20 13:45:05 2008. which would still be 'free' when the machine messes up or breaks, like Bx12 SBS |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 20 14:26:08 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by TheGreatOne2k8 on Thu Nov 20 14:17:41 2008. Then have an on-call crew dispatched to fix those problems between 6 AM and 10 PM. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 20 15:49:00 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 20 13:45:05 2008. Conductors should be collecting fares by hand on the SIR at stations with no fare control. It would work like this: Metrocard goes in, SIR ticket comes out. You don't have a ticket when you board, the C/R or brakeman (redeploy unneeded subway crews to SIR as rear brakemen) collects a higher fare say $4 or so. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 17:31:47 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 20 15:49:00 2008. Labor cost is higher than fare collection. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 20 18:27:30 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Nov 20 17:31:47 2008. Then make the on-board fare for SIR $5 or $6. Most of the SIR passengers will board without tickets out of habit and end up paying the higher fare. |
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Posted by TheHat on Thu Nov 20 19:37:18 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Nov 20 02:44:44 2008. Yeah, but what I mean by that is they will use the local bus or subway. Call me selfish I just want to raise ridership and keep my job. What you state is common sense, but if common sense were common... |
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Posted by TheHat on Thu Nov 20 20:04:38 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 19 15:10:12 2008. Its similar to the Orion I's run by the Hascidics with the cup or bottle taped to the stancions in the front of the bus instad of an actual farebox, if that's what you mean. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 21 09:28:02 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:15:07 2008. Here's a little math that I use in order to use up the entire balances of PPR cards, without geting snarky looks from station agents or adding odd amounts @ no bonus.1) Set aside a card specifically for the express bus (xfer to or from subway or local bus OK). 2) Load it with $50. With the bonus, you get a card valued @ $57.50. After 11 rides, you're down to $2.50. 3) Re-load it with another $50. You'll now have a $60 card ($50 load+leftover $2.50+$7.50 bonus = $60) 4) 12 rides later, the card is completely exhausted. 5) If $50 is too much to lay out all at once, it can be done n increments of $25, but it'll just take twice as long to get to $0 Similar math works on a card set aside for subway or local bus: 1) Load it with $20. With the bonus, you get a $23 card. 2) 11 rides later, you have $1. 3) Re-load another $20. ($20 load, $3 bonus, $1 leftover= $24) 4) 12 rides later, the card is empty. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 21 09:30:17 2008, in response to Re: OH NOES! The express bus fare to go up to $7.50!, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Nov 20 00:01:26 2008. I think that actually is a very good idea. Considering how central a point the mall is on SI and how many folks take the bus to and from it. |
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