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Re: Port Authority reveals 5 designs---

Posted by kcram3500 on Sat Sep 24 10:25:19 2016, in response to Port Authority reveals 5 designs---, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Sep 24 08:58:56 2016.

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That very first image would never fly because the outdoor steps would become a problem in a hurry - especially in winter when snow and ice removal would become a constant task. Those steps would also become a haven for "loungers" (homeless or not) who would interfere with bus passengers.

None of those drawings showed the actual gate areas. That's the most used area of the terminal and the section that still looks like it hasn't received much attention since the terminal opened in 1950... dark, poor ventilation, too small for current buses - 40 foot transit buses had just begun production and use (45s weren't even a thought then), and height-wise, the deck-and-a-half Scenicruiser was a few years away. Instead of the 35-foot GM PD-4103, line haul carriers are wedging J4500s and H3-45s in there.

To accommodate the larger buses and the expected increase in services, the new PABT will basically be the size of a suburban shopping mall. But what is needed even more is another tunnel tube... preferably a bus-exclusive tube to prevent the current backups and congestion on 495 and the Lincoln. There were thoughts of converting the Palisade rail tunnels into a busway that would connect directly to the Turnpike north of exit 17, with access from Tonnelle and Boulevard East, that could then go directly to a dedicated Hudson River tube to serve a new PABT. That would be a HUGE productivity gain.

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