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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 24 12:07:31 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 24 10:38:09 2016.

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I didn't say the average trip on Woodhaven is 2.3 miles. I said that was a City average. I conceded that on Woodhaven it is probably higher, but not by much if you don't consider the two bridges without any stops the bus must cross that is unaffected by SBS.

"NONE OF THAT IS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN ORDINARY LANES"

Yes, that is exactly what I started. You stated the opposite that bus lanes do not require more maintenance than ordinary lanes which I successfully disputed by stating ordinary lanes do not need to have missing or faded bus signs replaced or rust colored pavement replaced. YOU CANNOT BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT ARGUMENT. So which is it? Do bus lanes require extra maintenance or don't they?

So you say the maintenance to keep up the bus lanes is minimal? What do you call "minimal". I know who won't venture a guess because you don't know. WELL IF YOU DON'T KNOW, you can't very well claim it will be minimal. THEREFORE YOUR CLAIM IS THOROUGHLY UNSUBSTANTIATED.

Twenty routes. Let's say each route has 15 stops. With at least four machines per stop, that is 60 machines. 60 times 20 is 1,200. That is already over a thousand machines. That means additional employees will have to be hired at the Central Electronics Shop where I worked for nine years to service those machines. Plus this machines will need new parts. Parts and labor do not come cheap. Not to mention the vehicles and fuel needed to travel to and from the machines. Then you have the pension costs when those employees retire. THAT IS COMPLETELY SUBSTANTIATED.

How is there reduced maintenance costs or reduced fuel costs to the buses? They will still travel the same amount of miles by making more trips. Does the fine revenue even go to the MTA? IS THAT SUBSTANTIATED? Yes there is some reduced labor costs from reduced run times because buses are making fewer stops causing passengers to walk further taking away from their time savings. THE MTA WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE IS A POSITIVE. They have not been able to do that yet. SO THE NET BENEFITS OF SBS ARE UNSUBSTANTIATED.





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