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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 24 10:38:09 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 24 10:24:02 2016.

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"I get a ten minute time savings because fifteen minutes is the maximum reduction in running time savings from one end of a route to the other which is usually at least 10 miles. The average passenger trip is 2.3 miles so the average passenger savings is one fifth that amount. A fifth of 15 minutes is three minutes.
THOSE ARE NOT UNSUBSTANTIATED ASSUMPTIONS.
The average passenger trip on woodhaven is 2.3 miles? UNSUBSTANTIATED.

"No a bus lane needs to make sure none of the signs fell off or became faded. They will need periodic replacement as does the rust color pavement.

NONE OF THAT IS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN ORDINARY LANES."
Actually, signage does need to be maintained on every street. If the rust colored paint wears off, again, not a big deal. Plenty of bus lanes exist without them.

"I don't no how much the maintenance costs but that is not the question.

I DO KNOW THAT MAINTENANCE WILL BE NEEDED AND THAT THE MANUFACTURERS' WARRANTY IS ONLY FOR THREE YEARS."
Yes, but you claim that such is large, which is completely unsubstantiated.

"After that period of time there is no federal money or city money to pay for the maintenance WHICH WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL when you have hundreds or even thousands of fare machines when you have 20 SBS routes which is the plan."
Unsubstantiated.
"That doesn't even consider the SUBSTANTIAL labor and material costs just to replace the paper and ink. ALL THAT MEANS IS HIGHER OPERATING COSTS and HIGHER FARES to pay for it since SBS ROUTES ARE GENERALLY RAISING LESS REVENUE each year because ridership on them is FALLING even though they may have increased FIVE YEARS AGO for the first year of operation."
What about the reduced maintenance costs they bring to the buses themselves? What about the fine revenue they bring? How substantial is the labor? What about the reduced fuel costs they bring? What about the reduced labor costs they bring from the reduced run times? ETC.



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