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Re: Why Northern Brooklyn Needs Better Bus Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 16 13:24:06 2012, in response to Re: Why Northern Brooklyn Needs Better Bus Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 15 18:20:47 2012.

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It's alright for you to conclude that bus service is not a problem without any facts

Not only did I not make any such conclusion, I also never said that such a conclusion was "alright". So what are you talking about? All I'm doing is asking you a few questions. But instead of answering the questions, you started ranting. Why can't you just answer the questions so we can have a nice conversation?

it isn't okay for me to conclude it is a problem after hearing the community continuously complain about it.

It's ok for you to conclude that the community THINKS it's a problem and as such should be looked into. But it's not ok to conclude that it IS a problem. That happens after it is looked into.

Double standard isn't it?

Not at all, since you didn't make a valid comparison, as I just explained.

To answer you question there are always six cars in front of the station, and when the B4 is not running, the number goes up to 12.

And how many of those cars leave after each train arrives (with and without the B4 running)? In other words, it makes a big difference if every weekend train results in 12 car trips (every car takes a passenger and leaves and is replaced immediately by 12 more cars) or only say four car trips (only four of the 12 cars takes a passenger and leaves and is immediately replaced by four more cars).

Now do you want me to provide you with exact dates and times I witnessed this so you can perform your very erudite analysis?

Huh? What's with all the ridiculousness? Was I not 100% clear when I asked the following VERY SIMPLE questions: And in your experience, how many cars are waiting for each arriving subway train? And how many of those cars depart with one or more passengers after each arriving subway train?

Why do you feel it necessary to make all these dumb comments instead of just answering the simple questions with simple answers? You claim that I'm the one who can't have a nice conversation when it is you who keeps interjecting stupid things that aren't part of the conversation???

What type of evidence would you need to conclude that service is needed on the weekends?

I would look at how many riders apparently want to ride the bus on weekends.

The MTA showed higher numbers of riders using the B4 on weekends (2300 daily) when it was discontinued than during the rush hours and middays when they decided to retain it. (2100).

I don't understand. You're saying that in the report that came out before the big service cuts, the B4 had 2100 daily weekday riders and 2300 daily weekend riders? If you already have ridership numbers then why in the heck did you even start talking about car service vehicles????

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