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Re: Why Northern Brooklyn Needs Better Bus Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 22 13:08:32 2012, in response to Re: Why Northern Brooklyn Needs Better Bus Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 22 08:40:36 2012.

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You asked "In your experience, how many of those cars depart with one or more passengers after each departing train." Right? How is that different from asking, how many car service cars leave after each train arrives?" They woudn't leave if they didn't get a passenger unless the driver decided to go home, so you asked what I essentially said you asked. But you make it into a big deal as if I accused you of asking a totally different question.

That's why a conversation with you never comes to a conclusion. You just find something to nitpick about and change the subject. Let's suppose I stated that I watched for ten minutes, and four cars left each with one person. How woud that information help you draw any conclusions. You would just come back with statements like ten minutes isn't long enough to wait or how do you know those people coud have taken the B4? The the point is no matter how someone answers your questions it is never good enough for you. You just move the topic elsewhere. That's why no one wants to talk to you.

I'm glad you now explained to me how "things work" since I am not a competent planner and you are, according to you. What you explained is how things should work and you did a good job of that. But that is not how things happened. There were no thresholds or ranking that the MTA used to decide where the cuts were to be made.

What they did was lay out a bunch of guidelines they said they were using and presented a ranked list of costs to provide service, and never revealing their methodology then presented a final list of cuts. For example, they state they considered ridership history as a criterion to decide if a route would be cut. They showed that the B71 ridership increased by 29% in the past five years. Virtually no other route had that type of gain, yet they eliminated it anyway. Where did thy show how they weighed that against other criteria. They didn't.

They arbitrarily decided what to eliminate based on a hodgepodge of criteria. If what you say is true that there was a logical ranking of routes to be cut according to certain thresholds that had to be met, if I came to you with $20 million that I just made available, you would be able to go to that list and show me the first route on that list that should be restored. That cannot be done because no such list exists.

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