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Re: Why Northern Brooklyn Needs Better Bus Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 22 08:40:36 2012, in response to Re: Why Northern Brooklyn Needs Better Bus Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 21 19:44:14 2012.

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Oh you didn't ask the question how many use car service when they can't take the B4?

"What do you call this "How many car service cars leave after each train arrives.?"

Nope. I quite clearly and obviously asked "And in your experience...how many of those cars depart with one or more passengers after each arriving subway train?
Where in there did I ask for "exactly" how many? I said "in your experience", which means "while you surely were observing the car service operations for several minutes here and there".

See what I mean about you going in circles?

No. But see what I mean about you interjecting STUPID comments that are completely irrelevant? Instead of staying on-topic, you make up some story about me asking for exact numbers so you can then make it seem like I am asking for something unreasonable.

I am trying to talk to you as if you are a rational person which is obviously not the case.

Nope. You actually talk to me (as well as everyone else here and your blog audience too) as if we are all complete idiots who won't be able to figure out that you don't know what you are talking about. Unfortunately you succeed with fooling some people, but not everyone (particularly people who actually are well versed in the topics you speak of, as well as people who know how to do critical thinking and logical reasoning).

You change your story every second post

I've done no such thing. I have not changed my story even once in this thread. And you can't point out any specific instance in this thread where I did that.

all you do is insult people and try to point out how you are superior

Nope. If you feel insulted it's just because you resent being challenged about your conclusions and how you've reached them. Anyone who used critical thinking and logical reasoning would not be insulted as no insults were made (except in response to insults from you).

As for your last question why this service cut is more worthy than the others, i never said that it was, only that it should not have been done.

That makes absolutely no sense. You claim to be a competent bus planner yet you seem to have no idea how this stuff works! So let me explain it to you:

In 2010 there were budget problems, so they decided to cut service. An analysis was done of the existing bus services. Options were created for modifying certain routes and then those modifications were also analyzed. Based on these analyses, all of the bus services were ranked/grouped by several factors. Then, certain options for service reductions were chosen, presumably based on which existing services and/or modifications met certain thresholds.

Since the B4 service was modified, it seems that service met those thresholds. If you want to argue that something is amiss, you need to show that the analysis was done wrong. Because otherwise why should the B4 service not have been cut when it met the threshold just like the other cuts? Why is your line so special that even though it met the criteria to have a modification, it shouldn't have been cut while other bus routes meeting the same criteria should still have been cut?

That is what you don't understand. You need to show why the objective evaluation was wrong for your particular route. Saying "ask all the people who now need to take car services" does not in any way show that the objective evaluation was wrong for your particular route. I'm sure the bus planners were more than aware that this reduction could cause some additional people to utilize car services. And that's probably true for many of the bus routes that were modified.

So as I have been saying, the presence of a few more car service vehicles, in and of itself, is not proff that the objective analysis done for your bus route was flawed, and that your bus route deserves to be reinstated at the expense of other bus routes.

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