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Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 15:18:56 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 15:06:51 2008. The Naval officers were simply "coattailing" the cops... I reckon the COPS were the ones doing the talking in the apprehension... and teh issue is with teh COPS... not the Navy. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP? |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 15:22:47 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 12:08:36 2008. and cancel his visiting privileges for a week.You may be from the 1930's.... but we sure ain't living in them now, Doc.... |
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Posted by railbus63 on Thu Feb 21 15:27:57 2008, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Nilet on Wed Feb 20 20:45:31 2008. Here we go again - the MNCR employees and the police may have been mistaken about photography policies, but can't you see that you escalated this incident way beyond necessary by your remarks and apparent attitude? |
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Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 15:43:23 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 21 15:16:35 2008. what a surprise! will we get an apology from those individuals in this thread who claimed otherwise? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 15:43:45 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 15:06:51 2008. Sweet letter! Thanks! |
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Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 15:51:20 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 15:18:56 2008. teh issue is with teh COPS... not the Navy.Regardless - you file complaints against everyone involved and let them fight amongst themselves as to who bears the greater responsibility. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Feb 21 15:57:29 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 05:11:33 2008. Great, just what we need.... a bunch of weekend warriors with high powered weapons having a great time pushing law abiding people( backed by equal less informed cops ) around like a bunch of terrorists, someone is going to get hurt or killed yet with this bullshit. GO GET THEM NILET Karl M |
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Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:11:52 2008, in response to Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL?, posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 13:36:08 2008. After this McCain crap, the Post looks a lot more trustworthy than the Times. |
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Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL? |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:14:00 2008, in response to Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:11:52 2008. So what's the Bank Manager's name????????????? |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:15:29 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 05:08:25 2008. No bro, not half as professionally as Ron does it! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:15:46 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Railman718 on Thu Feb 21 13:01:26 2008. Flashes make pictures darker underground. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:21:37 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by R30A on Thu Feb 21 13:28:59 2008. You're arguing with a moron, Linc. Don't waste your valuable energy on it. |
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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 16:23:59 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:15:46 2008. But if the subject of your picture is within the effective range of your flash, the flash will light up your subject, allowing a faster shutter speed to be used, and resulting in what the people prone to using this method would consider a decent shot. If the subject is out of flash range, like you said, the photo will be garbage. I think typical flash range for point and shoots is like 6 to 15 feet, but I'd have to check. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 16:24:59 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:21:37 2008. Yay, are you ready to embrace the plan of no longer replying to Ron's posts? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 16:28:09 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:21:37 2008. LOL! Look who's talking. It's a member of the Bush science team:Bushcronium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311. These 311 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. The symbol for Bushcronium is "W". Bushcronium's mass actually increases over time, since each reorganization causes more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Bushcronium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "critical morass." When catalyzed with money, Bushcronium activates Foxnewsium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:28:29 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 16:24:59 2008. No. They need to be responded to, but at some point it has to stop. Once said idiocy by Ron has been adequatley demonstrated, you should cease replying to him. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:29:22 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:28:29 2008. Said idiocy is exhibited daily with teh "no reefed threads" posts. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 16:29:58 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:29:22 2008. Threads have not been reefed. We've ben good. Except you. :0) |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP? |
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Posted by kp5308 on Thu Feb 21 16:30:03 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 16:28:09 2008. LOL |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:31:05 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 16:29:58 2008. No one's paying you to monitor the amount of reefed threads, PORNhead. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 16:32:17 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:31:05 2008. Nobody's paying you not to notice them. So I'll notice what I want and you'll not notice anything. |
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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Clayton on Thu Feb 21 16:32:29 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 14:19:46 2008. Why do you switch from using capital letters to using all lowercases? Are we supposed to decipher your tone from your usage of capitalization? Because all around, you still sound like self-righteous. |
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Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Clayton on Thu Feb 21 16:34:03 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 15:43:45 2008. "Sometimes misunderstandings occur"What is so hard to understand about that?! Life goes on! Move on! |
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Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 16:58:15 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Clayton on Thu Feb 21 16:34:03 2008. "Sometimes misunderstandings occur"What is so hard to understand about that?! Life goes on! Move on! The problem that I have with that is the zero tolerance policies that the city has adopted towards its citizens. Meter maids and cops issue tickets over every minor offense. I have decided that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I now have zero tolerance for indiscretions on the part of anyone in authority. I may not complain to their face but I sure as hell file complaints over each and every mistake I catch on the part of "the authorities". Sauce for the goose IS sauce for the gander!!!! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:00:41 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 13:20:46 2008. However, if Argent Ventures says no in in areas not open to the public...who is the MTA to say that we won't enforce the rules it sets? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 17:05:00 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:00:41 2008. But the platforms ARE open to the public and it is highly doubtful that Argent Ventures is even involved in any aspect of the operation of GCT other than cashing MTA's rent payments... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:05:50 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 12:40:33 2008. Actually, the entire Penn Central track network from GCT is owned by Argent, but leased to Metro-North (IINM, the New Haven Line is owned by governments or body politics thereof leaving the City of New York). |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:07:31 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 13:13:03 2008. And by trespassing, he has no basis for a complaint...when you are already in the wrong...anything else done is wrong. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 17:12:34 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:07:31 2008. Even if he was trespassing, which is in itself debateable, the cops have no right to confiscate a camera memory card and/or damage his equipment by ripping out the battery. He has a theft of property and damage claim against the cops. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:18:26 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 17:12:34 2008. However, if the cops are holding it as evidence...that may be something else. I wouldn't be surprised to see it presented as evidence of wrongdoing. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 21 17:34:31 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 21 16:58:15 2008. I just completed writing a letter to the newspaper on this "zero tolerance" policy. In fact I will call it a "minus 1 tolerance" policy. Last summer I saw a meter maid to start to write a ticket while someone was still slowing down at a bus stop. She was yelling for the driver to stop her car so she could complete the summons. The problem with this is that at the time she started writing the summons no law had yet been broken, since it is perfectly legal to stop at a bus stop to discharge passengers. The meter maid had no way of knowing the driver's intentions when she started to write the summons. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 21 17:36:28 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by railbus63 on Thu Feb 21 15:27:57 2008. He will figure that out when he gets older. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Feb 21 18:00:49 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Feb 20 22:08:46 2008. The Nazi war criminals were also doing what they were instructed to do. Based on precedent set at Nuremburg, "following orders" is not considered a viable defense against overextending authority beyond legally defined bounds. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 21 18:03:19 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 14:19:46 2008. It is wrong to post a sign that is only enforced when someone gives them good reason to. It allows for the potential of abuse and racial profiling.It reminds me of the sign posted at NYC playgrounds that prohibit you from entering unless you have a child with you. It allows the police the authority to arrest anyone they don't like the looks of because they think he or she might be a predator even if the person has done absolutely nothing wrong. As long as I pay taxes for these parks, I should be allowed to use them. Why shouldn't a senior citizen be allowed to sit in a park and admire the children playing and having fun? Should they only be allowed to look at old people? If someone does something wrong, only then should they be arrested. At my park, you have to pass one of these signs (and hence break the law) just to get to the handball fields and basketball courts. You may ask why should this sign matter if no one reads it and everyone ignores it anyway? I first found out about this law when I read a story how a police officer went over to a man sitting in the park and told him he had to leave. He asked why and was promptly arrested without explanation. When in court they told him about the law. This doesn't sound like the US. Child predators are a big problem but this is not the way to handle it. If the police believed he was dangerous, they should have told him what they thought he was doing. If he really was a predator, he would have got scared and left anyway (to do it elsewhere) or become abusive and the police would have had reason to arrest him anyway without this law. I don't see what it accomplishes. (Sorry to get off topic.) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 18:05:43 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by randyo on Thu Feb 21 18:00:49 2008. Comparing Nazi atrocities to detaining a railbuff for taking pictures is, well, stoopid. Let's leave it at that. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:11:16 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US AND SCREWS UP?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 16:28:29 2008. It has already been adequately demonstrated. Why do we need to demonstrate it any more? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:12:11 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Clayton on Thu Feb 21 16:32:29 2008. why do you come here only to criticize? are you overly compensating for something? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:13:47 2008, in response to Re: National Guard and Photo Rules: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Clayton on Thu Feb 21 16:34:03 2008. What's so hard to understand is why you don't understand. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:15:21 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:00:41 2008. The MTAPD enforces any and all rules in the terminal and they already said photography is fine. It's VERY clear. There is no question. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:22:13 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Feb 21 17:07:31 2008. He wasn't trespassing. People are effectively permitted, in practice, to use the platforms to travel north-south in the terminal. The posted signs are few in number and AFAIK are not at the majority of the entrances to the platform area. There are also no signs that I know of that say you must only use the north end access corridors for north-south travel. As such, one can easily argue, as I just did, that people are permitted to be on the platforms. And since they are permitted to be there, and since there is no restriction on photography in areas people are allowed to be in, Nilet was doing nothing wrong, and was not trespassing. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US? No, I don't use flash. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 21 18:22:35 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US? No, I don't use flash., posted by Nilet on Thu Feb 21 13:37:15 2008. I think he was talking figuratively. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:25:54 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by railbus63 on Thu Feb 21 15:27:57 2008. No, from what was posted, the police escalated it by demanding he turn off his camcorder. There is no reason for that. They could have done their investigation with the camcorder on. AFAIK the camcorder did not pose an immediate physical threat to the police or the public, nor did the camcorder signify that a crime was imminent. |
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Re: Posting Signs That are Not Enforced |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:27:54 2008, in response to Re: Posting Signs That are Not Enforced, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 21 18:03:19 2008. It is wrong to post a sign that is only enforced when someone gives them good reason to. It allows for the potential of abuse and racial profiling.I agree. |
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Re: NILET LIES TO US? No, I don't use flash. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Feb 21 18:30:55 2008, in response to Re: NILET LIES TO US? No, I don't use flash., posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 21 18:22:35 2008. No, I was talking about actual use of flash. However, I accept Nilet's explanation and apologize for being too aggressive in my suspectig him.Use of flash is NOT acceptable behavior by photographers except by specifuc permission of MTA. But Nilet did not commit this offense. |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Feb 21 18:34:26 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by SMAZ on Thu Feb 21 03:45:12 2008. 'They need to jack up the pay for new NYPD officers'the PBA needs to WORK with the Mayor in order to correct this problem... |
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Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL? |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Feb 21 18:38:35 2008, in response to Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL?, posted by South Ferry on Thu Feb 21 16:14:00 2008. 'So what's the Bank Manager's name????????????? 'NO! WHAT IS YHE SECOND BASEMAN'S NAME!!!! |
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Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL? |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Feb 21 18:40:15 2008, in response to Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 14:21:30 2008. 'it doesn't matter who owns it. 'your response needs a comma! it doesn't matter, Who owns it! learn the proper usage! |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Feb 21 18:41:45 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 21 12:38:04 2008. what does their sexual preference have to do with this????? |
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Posted by Clayton on Thu Feb 21 18:47:56 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Feb 21 18:12:11 2008. You already know how I feel on this issue. Be respectful; it's only photography. There are PLENTY more opportunities. The army dudes weren't asking Nilet to march into the train bound for the gas chambers. Plus, it is OBVIOUS that Nilet is doing something wrong if he is a repeat "victim" of this manner. As to your claim of no one reporting it, I ask people here now: Has anyone ever had a similar thing happen to them at Grand Central while taking photographs where they were accosted by National Guard/MTA PD? |
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Re: NOT ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Feb 21 18:48:55 2008, in response to Re: NOT ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 21 12:36:21 2008. 'Afterwards I turned to the officer and asked what power he had to allow me to take this picture if it truly was illegal. I then walked away.'Good for you! Excellent shot! I need more alcohol, got any? |
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