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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 5 13:33:04 2016, in response to Re: Why is the D an Express in Manhattan Overnight?, posted by Michael549 on Mon Dec 5 11:47:40 2016. During the Lenox shut down of the 19890s, the #3 terminated at Atlantic Av during midnight hours, and during middays M - F Lex Av service also terminated there so thee is precedent for such an operation. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 5 23:57:47 2016, in response to Re: Why is the D an Express in Manhattan Overnight?, posted by X-Astorian on Fri Dec 2 00:12:47 2016. And the Green Line in Minneapolis. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Tue Dec 6 01:00:35 2016, in response to Re: Why is the D an Express in Manhattan Overnight?, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 5 13:33:04 2016. "During the Lenox shut down of the 19890s, the #3 terminated at Atlantic Av during midnight hours, and during middays M - F Lex Av service also terminated there so thee is precedent for such an operation."Was this during the time-periods when the #2 was running on the Lexington Avenue line between the Bronx and Brooklyn, and this version of the #3 was used to provide westside service? It might take me a while to hunt down the subway maps of that era. Mike |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 6 17:21:55 2016, in response to Re: Why is the D an Express in Manhattan Overnight?, posted by Michael549 on Tue Dec 6 01:00:35 2016. That would be the same period. 2 trains ran via Lex overnight. If I recall, rush hour 3s ran from 148 St using the available track in the peak direction of traffic and middays and early PMs they ran to/from 137 St. 2s ran S/B via Lenox on the available track and N/B via Lex till around noon and when the direction was reversed and N/B 2s ran vial Lenox and S/B 2s ran via Lex. At that time only one Lenox tk at a time was O/S. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Dec 17 21:56:54 2016, in response to Re: Why is the D an Express in Manhattan Overnight?, posted by Michael549 on Sun Dec 4 18:58:10 2016. Not having the #3 midnight hour long shuttle not terminate at 34th Street could be due to: a) limiting passenger confusion at 34th Street, b) not really "needing" to so to terminate those #3 trains there, etc. Any number of reasons - but at least an effective transfer station at 42nd Street-Times Square is the last stop. Any number of reasons - including the creation of the bare minimum long shuttle.Other possibilities: c) The refuse train regularly snakes around that area during the overnight. I think it picks up southbound between midnight and 2 AM; it picks up northbound a few hours later and usually finishes at 96th around 6 AM. In the interim, it reverses and switches and hides on the express track between Times Square and Penn Station. Not running the 3 to Penn Station makes it easier to pick up the trash. d) In the early morning just before rush hour, 2 trains run express (and possibly, a few 3 trains run to Brooklyn) before the last shuttle arrives at Times Square and reverses. Running that shuttle to Penn Station would probably create greater risk of conflict with southbound through trains. Also note that: e) Some 3 trains do run to Penn Station overnight. I don't think it's an official scheduled thing, but it does happen, and not just during GOs when southbound 3 trains have to run local. |
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