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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 19:37:15 2010 Spoiler Alert Signs------ Take Pride,
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Posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 19:46:19 2010, in response to Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 19:37:15 2010. Looks like vandalism to me JMO |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 19:51:21 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 19:46:19 2010. No, I don't think that can be considered vandalism as per the definition. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:11:02 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 19:46:19 2010. Actually, per section 1050.5 subsection C it is considered vandalism and is prohibited.Section 1050.5 Property and equipment. 1.No person shall destroy, mark, soil or paint, or draw, inscribe, write, spray paint or place graffiti upon, or remove, injure or tamper with any facility, conveyance, sign, advertisement, notice or other property of the Authority, or attempt to commit any of the aforementioned acts, except that this subdivision shall not apply to any work within the scope of any contract made by or on behalf of the Authority. 2.No person shall post, distribute or display any sign, poster, notice, advertisement or other printed or written matter in or on any facility or conveyance without the permission of the Authority, except as otherwise provided by law or these rules. 3.Except as an incident to travel on Authority facilities for which a fare has been paid or which has otherwise been duly authorized by the Authority, no conveyance or facility may be occupied, used or handled, except by permit, agreement, license or other authorization of the Authority duly made. Too bad some here talk out of their ass. |
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Posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Aug 25 20:13:28 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:11:02 2010. Have you no sense of humor? It's just a joke! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Aug 25 20:14:07 2010, in response to Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 19:37:15 2010. That would be funny if a hipster didn't do it. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 20:14:25 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 19:51:21 2010. No you are right by the true definition of the word. But, they did not have permission from MTA/NYCT to post them (I read the post three times and did not see their acknowledgement of MTA/NYCT permission) to put those up. They have to adhere the signs to the displays somehow, and that can be said to be vandalism (the act of changing the physical properties of the displays). |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 20:15:20 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:11:02 2010. "Too bad some here talk out of their ass"Well, one person mainly. ANYONE with half a brain knows that this sign IS vandalism, and if caught, the maker and poster of this sign would be in trouble. Then again, the original poster has an I.Q. equivalent to a person with 1/4 a functional brain, so consider the source. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:20:02 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Aug 25 20:13:28 2010. I may be wrong but I see nothing in the rules of conduct that make allowances for such jokes. My comment was meant to specifically address one particular person who continually cites the rules of conduct regarding his mania for transit photography. I'm sorry that I didn't link to his comment.Take Pride Peter |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 20:21:20 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:20:02 2010. "his mania for transit photography"He may have a mania for it, but definitely is not good at it!! :-P |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:24:08 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 20:21:20 2010. That too! |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:37:30 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:11:02 2010. Make that subsection 2 - forgive the type-o. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Aug 25 20:40:14 2010, in response to Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 19:37:15 2010. Wait a minute - do I see CLEANED TILE there??? I can actually SEE the "B" in the frieze!-w- |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 20:55:00 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:11:02 2010. No, like I said, it's not vandalism. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 20:56:58 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 20:14:25 2010. Assuming there was no damage where the signs were mounted, it would not be vandalism. Thanks for your understanding. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:00:51 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 20:56:58 2010. Ok, that is true :). Though, I do wonder how long NYCT leaves them up :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 21:02:15 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:20:02 2010. I said it was not vandalism, and I was correct. The fact that the act is prohibited does NOT make it vandalism. (And note that I made no claim that the act was permitted or not prohibited. I was replying SPECIFICALLY to the claim that it was vandalism. That was very clear to Arnine but as usual the haters somehow didn't pick up on the obvious. I wonder why...not.) But thanks for trying and failing. I love when people fall flat on their faces trying to show me to be wrong. If you'd do less hating and more listening, maybe you'd actually learn something! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:02:49 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:00:51 2010. Now that they seen this post, probably not long!! Do remember this place is "under surveillance"!! ;-) |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:05:28 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:02:49 2010. True. TBH I understand their sentiments but they IMHO were wrong to put them up, if they meant it as art, which their blog and site suggests they should have gone through the MTA Arts for Transit program, which if they did they need to put that out there. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:09:01 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 20:55:00 2010. Well, let's see you come up with something like that, and place it on any sign, pillar, or any part of TA property without permission, and have an official or an NYPD Transit Division officer spot you, and see how it will be handled and regarded!! Section 1050.5, Subsection C seemed pretty clear, and this sign, which I am quite sure was put up WITHOUT permission, definitely entails (quoted from the subsection) "tampering with any facility, conveyance, sign, advertisement, notice or other property of the Authority" and "posting, distributing or displaying any sign, poster, notice, advertisement or other printed or written matter in or on any facility or conveyance without the permission of the Authority".Again, try same yourself, and see how it gets handled if observed by a official of the TA or the NYPD!! |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 21:09:57 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 21:02:15 2010. I fact, you are incorrect. I'd explain it to you but instead of understanding you'd simply continue to parse my words to suit your childish means. You are wrong no matter how important it is for you to be right. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 21:11:19 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:00:51 2010. Arnine, note that how MNCR's Worst Conductor and Worst Photographer and Biggest Hypocrite is happy and willing to "pile on the insults" as long as people are disagreeing with me. But then when you, someone he obviously likes, goes ahead and agrees with me on the same subject, he clams up and does not criticize you for having the same opinion as me (the same opinion that is the basis for his insults). Do you wonder why that is? Might you think he's someone who doesn't treat others as he wants to be treated? Might he be someone who answers questions and takes sides based on hatred instead of on facts? |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:12:52 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 21:09:57 2010. Don't even waste time!! He is, as I mentioned in earlier posts, either too pompous, too stupid, or a combination of both to even realize he is wrong!! The subsection quoted is plainly and clearly spelled out. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:17:35 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 21:11:19 2010. "MNCR's Worst Conductor and Worst Photographer and Biggest Hypocrite"Just as I stated in an earlier post...... "You make such judgments about my professionalism and my character when you know absolutely nothing about me, never ridden with me, basing everything you talk about me on the fact that I continually embarrass you both in photographic skills and in the many verbal battles you lose because you shoot off your mouth way too much!! As I always say when you make baseless, non-factual comments about me and my professionalism, MANY can disagree totally with you!!" My post, in full here, spoke for itself, and it is the best observation of you!! Brian Whineturd, in a nutshell!! Are you too much of a coward to address me??? Be a man!! And again, we all know how you can try (operative word, TRY) to prove how much of a "worst photographer" I am, and since I am dealing with an obvious moron, I will not post it again, since I been doing it for the past 2 1/2 years and you still duck me!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:22:48 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:17:35 2010. And for the record, you are NOT even worth a second of hatred!! I hate no one, and yes that does include you!! |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:27:42 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 21:11:19 2010. TBH I disagree with the statements: "MNCR's Worst Conductor and Worst Photographer and Biggest Hypocrite", but you and I have discussed that before and you know how I feel about that from the PATH thread, and I know how you feel, so let's just agree to disagree.Paul knows he can disagree with me and I will not be upset, as I know I can disagree with him and he won't be upset with me. He has responded to you about what you said, and his disagreement, and since he disagreed with you by association I guess he disagreed with me and that is fine as I said earlier I'm not upset. Friends can disagree and there is nothing wrong with that. I agree it isn't vandalism, but the group did violate the mentioned section, and that can and most likely will land them in trouble as the subsection did address unapproved signs which theirs are. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 21:30:22 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:27:42 2010. If not vandalism, what would you call it? Confusing the public? |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Aug 25 21:34:36 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 21:30:22 2010. I am not sure what the proper term would be but TS is right it isn't vandalism. I looked at dictionary.com and what they did was not vandalism. Maybe mischeif is a more proper term. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:09:21 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 21:09:01 2010. Fine, it's prohibited, but it's not vandalism.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:10:18 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 21:09:57 2010. In other words, you can't show that I'm wrong because...I'm not wrong. It's not vandalism. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:13:25 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Aug 25 20:11:02 2010. 2.No person shall post, distribute or display any sign, poster, notice, advertisement or other printed or written matter in or on any facility or conveyance without the permission of the Authority, except as otherwise provided by law or these rules.That's the "post no bills" clause but it doesn't state that it's vandalism. We agree that it's prohibited. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:18:22 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:13:25 2010. That's the "post no bills" clause but it doesn't state that it's vandalism. We agree that it's prohibited. Hey Fred, what are the chances these mental midgets will flame you when you are expressing the SAME EXACT OPINION as me? It's called hypocrisy, and they've got it! I love it! Take Pride,
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:18:29 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 20:15:20 2010. If you hung that sign, you would not be charged with vandalism but would be charged with violation of section blah blah blah, fined, punished, whatever, but you wouldn't have a charge of vandalism on your record.Why? Because vandalism isn't mentioned in the rule, nor is it defiined in same rule. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 25 22:20:42 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:13:25 2010. Well, for the record, NYCT DOES consider that graffiti/vandalism.. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:24:59 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 25 22:20:42 2010. Prove it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:34:24 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 20:55:00 2010. You wrong anyway. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:35:18 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:34:24 2010. "I not wrong" anyway. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:35:36 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:09:21 2010. How do you figure it not to be vandalism?? It was put there without permission, and basically defaces the information display for which it was mounted to. Does not have to be painted on or otherwise tagged for it not to be considered vandalism. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:36:09 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:10:18 2010. You too stupid, give up already. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:36:39 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:35:36 2010. Because I'm going by what's defined in the actual text of the rule and not everyone's interpretation.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:38:04 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:09:21 2010. "tampering with any facility, conveyance, sign, advertisement, notice or other property of the Authority" and "posting, distributing or displaying any sign, poster, notice, advertisement or other printed or written matter in or on any facility or conveyance without the permission of the Authority"This all pretty much makes up vandalism. The sign was not put up with permission, and pretty much is a defacement to the information display, and is tampering with the sign. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:38:33 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:35:18 2010. Ha, you are wrong. Take some drugs and go back to sleep with your kid. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:40:27 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:36:39 2010. "Vandalism" does not necessarily have to be put in there for such an act not to be considered vandalism.Why not make this simple?? Contact the TA or the NYPD and inquire about this topic, or anything like such, as see what the official(s) have to say about it, especially thru the standpoint of the police, and the official(s) knowledge of the laws. Then we can make adequate judgments. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:40:29 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:38:04 2010. The display was not defaced nor was it tampered with. A sign was hung from it in violation of the rule but the display was not vandalized.your pal, Fred |
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Gold_12th advocating child abuse (Was: Re: Spoiler Alert) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:40:46 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:38:33 2010. See subject. Wait for hypocrisy. |
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Gold_12th advocating child abuse (Was: Re: Spoiler Alert) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:41:15 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:38:33 2010. BTW, I am not wrong. Hypocrite. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:42:58 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:40:27 2010. How but just reading what's in the code? Not much to see here.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:46:07 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 25 22:42:58 2010. No, go to the original post, make copies or prints, present it to someone at the TA or the NYPD and see what it would be classified as, as per current laws in place. |
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Re: Bravo, Brain Weinberg, what a dipshit idiot you are |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Aug 25 22:46:37 2010, in response to Gold_12th advocating child abuse (Was: Re: Spoiler Alert), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:41:15 2010. Yes you are, admit you are wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 25 22:46:50 2010, in response to Re: Spoiler Alert, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Aug 25 22:40:27 2010. Haha, an hour ago you were so sure that someone with the SAME EXACT OPINION AS FRED was wrong that you launched unwarranted personal attacks. And now, instead of doing the same thing to FRED, you decide to appeal to a higher authority. You are a pathetic human being. No wonder you are out taking photos so much, your family probably can't stand to be around you! |
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