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WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Jul 4 20:23:21 2010

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http://www.wmata.com/about_metro/news/PressReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=4550

In short: Metro yanked the entire 4000-Series from service in order to correct a problem with the door motor that causes them to open while in motion. Problem identified, and trains will be returned to service as they are repaired.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 4 21:27:33 2010, in response to WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Jul 4 20:23:21 2010.

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I'm glad the WMATA was proactive in addressing a problem

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Jul 4 22:43:43 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 4 21:27:33 2010.

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There is a first time for everything...

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Jul 4 23:41:52 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Jul 4 22:43:43 2010.

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Yeah, I was about to say... "for once".

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 4 23:43:06 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 4 21:27:33 2010.

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It isn't "the WMATA", just WMATA...

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 5 00:09:27 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 4 23:43:06 2010.

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That's what I think, but according to Olog it can be either. For me a proper name doesn't get "the" in front of it. It's MTA not the MTA just like it's IBM not the IBM. It's ESPN, not the ESPN. It's FIFA not the FIFA.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 00:17:32 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 5 00:09:27 2010.

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Even if it is gramatically correct, no one calls it that. Calling it "the WMATA" just reduces Forest Glen's practically nonexistent credibility on all matters WMATA even further.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 00:30:31 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 00:17:32 2010.

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Is it your time of the month? Seriously? All you do is criticize people. I've given you the benefit of the doubt and I've tried to befriend you but nothing I do is ever good enough. Look at the plethora of WMATA photos I have at nycsubway.org

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by nasadowsk on Mon Jul 5 00:31:39 2010, in response to WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Jul 4 20:23:21 2010.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jul 5 00:36:43 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 00:30:31 2010.

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You can still be friends, but disagree about something. Just becase some people don't share the same enthusiasm for certain things [WMATA] as you doesn't mean they are your enemies.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 00:46:43 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jul 5 00:36:43 2010.

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One thing I learned at NYCTF is that you can't please everyone. Some people will hate you no matter what. Oren is acting like Urbanfortitude.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Mon Jul 5 00:54:36 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 00:46:43 2010.

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Grow up will ya. It's a message board, not real life.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jul 5 00:57:08 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Mon Jul 5 00:54:36 2010.

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Exactly, people don't share the same opinions. Is it the end of the world a person has a differring opinion? This is a discussion site afterall.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 00:57:26 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 00:30:31 2010.

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The number of photos you have on nycsubway.org is meaningless to me. The person who posts here who probably has the most knowledge of WMATA's history and technical aspects has zero photos on that site.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 01:00:08 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 00:57:26 2010.

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Sand Box John?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by SchuminWeb on Mon Jul 5 01:04:34 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 01:00:08 2010.

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Bingo.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 5 01:09:20 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by SchuminWeb on Mon Jul 5 01:04:34 2010.

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Don't be so sure. I don't have any the WMATA pictures on there either.

Did you know that the last A in the WMATA stands for authority, not agency? You can use that trivia on your site if you want.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 5 01:18:41 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 5 01:09:20 2010.

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lol

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Caitsith810. on Mon Jul 5 01:19:03 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 00:46:43 2010.

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Why do you keep bringing up people from NYCTF?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 5 01:51:29 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Caitsith810. on Mon Jul 5 01:19:03 2010.

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Cuz we can't bring up Subchatters; they're already here! LOL

your pal,
Fred

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 01:54:19 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 5 01:09:20 2010.

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Does Ben's site actually say that the A stands for agency? I'm pretty sure he (or another diligent reader) would have caught something like that a long time ago.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Mirai Zikasu on Mon Jul 5 02:24:02 2010, in response to WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Jul 4 20:23:21 2010.

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Pity. Maybe then there could have been some circulation if the cars' AC systems were to die.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jul 5 05:21:49 2010, in response to WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Jul 4 20:23:21 2010.

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Good move - that happened in a train I was on back about ten years ago - 175th Street on the "A" - "doors opening on the right side". Needless to say, that train (R44) was bad-ordered immediately.

-w-

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jul 5 08:06:43 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 00:17:32 2010.

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Even if it is gramatically correct, no one calls it that. Calling it "the WMATA" just reduces Forest Glen's practically nonexistent credibility on all matters WMATA even further.

Using "the WMATA" is less annoying to me (primarily because Forest Glen is the only one that does so) then the use of an in front of historic. The practice of using an in this grammatical context is something that is resent. 20 years ago one would have never read or heard it used in that context.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.



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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jul 5 08:07:11 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 01:00:08 2010.

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I will have to confess. I have taken more picture of WMATA then are posted at nycsubway.org.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jul 5 08:10:39 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 5 01:09:20 2010.

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Did you know that the last A in the WMATA stands for authority, not agency?

Here another one for you, the A in the MTA Maryland stands for Administration not authority or agency. The only letter that is common is the T for Transit. MTA Maryland is redundant phrase as the M in MTA stands for Maryland. The other MTA in Maryland, (Maryland Transportation Authority) is the agency that maintains and operates the toll facilities in the state.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 11:18:10 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jul 5 08:06:43 2010.

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Oren was just being anal about the grammar because he has a personal vendetta against me for some inexplicable reason.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 5 11:30:17 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by nasadowsk on Mon Jul 5 00:31:39 2010.

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This is just too funny... I'm glad I was between spoonfuls of cereal when I read this.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jul 5 13:42:14 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 11:18:10 2010.

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Oren was just being anal about the grammar because he has a personal vendetta against me for some inexplicable reason.

I happen to agree with Oren. Your praise and admiration for WMATA is in my opinion based on your inability and or lack of desire to see the big picture. You make yourself look like fool with your juvenile, boiler plate, everything is wonderful at WMATA posts.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 23:06:03 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jul 5 13:42:14 2010.

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So it's not ok to like a transit system?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 23:40:47 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 23:06:03 2010.

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I think you are missing our point. It is one thing to like a transit system. It is another thing to be unable to see faults in that transit system or to be critical of it when appropriate, and to be unable to separate railfanning desires from practical ones.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 23:44:41 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 23:40:47 2010.

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wrong

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 23:56:00 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 5 23:44:41 2010.

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One word responses are really not impressive, especially if you want to be taken seriously.

From what I can tell, your criticisms aren't really rooted in any sort of fact other than your observations made on day trips.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jul 5 23:56:39 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 23:40:47 2010.

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Totally agreed.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:14:05 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 5 23:56:00 2010.

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So because I'm a New York City resident I can't be a fan of the Washington DC Metro?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:22:21 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:14:05 2010.

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Did I say that?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:25:30 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:22:21 2010.

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What is the politically correct way to be a WMATA fan?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:29:57 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:25:30 2010.

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By not apologizing for every single thing they do. You can still like the system, but if they screw up, then they screw up.
You do not hesitate to bash the MTA when they screw up. So why does WMATA get a pass?

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:31:33 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:25:30 2010.

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This isn't about being a WMATA fan. It is about your use of one word posts when you take issue with something someone else says, your inability to see fault in things you like, and your inability to understand that railfanning observations made on sporatic day trips do not necessarily qualify as being statistically relevant.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:32:46 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:29:57 2010.

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As always, you're wrong

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:34:01 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:32:46 2010.

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Well you are outnumbered so far with Sandbox John and WMATAGMOAGH basically disagreeing with you.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:35:22 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:31:33 2010.

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Very well. The next time there's a WMATA thread I'll approach it objectively. I'll stop with the, "WMATA is the best thing ever" mentality. I'm still going to be a WMATA fan but I'll know when to shut up.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:35:30 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:31:33 2010.

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If anyone dares disagrees with him, he just reverts to one word responses. It's almost a lost cause at this point. Reasoning with him is a hassle.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:36:18 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:34:01 2010.

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But we got a 4 word reply!

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:37:09 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:36:18 2010.

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How right you are :)

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:38:51 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:35:30 2010.

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And I'm just stating the obvious here. I mean jeez I ride the NYCT subways all my life and there's still stuff that can be improved and by no means do I think the system is perfect or apologize for it [other than if unfairly compared to a system that is half its age].

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:40:06 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:38:51 2010.

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There are systems older than the NYC subway that adapted to the 21st Century (London). This lame excuse can only go so far.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:43:52 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:40:06 2010.

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Have you ever actually been to London? Take a ride on the Underground in mid-August and get back to me about how modern the system is.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:50:15 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 6 00:43:52 2010.

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They built the Jubilee line a few years ago. They're procuring new rolling stock. The Underground doesn't have rats or smell like urine.

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Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Jul 6 00:50:31 2010, in response to Re: WMATA pulls the 4000-Series from service for door problems, posted by Forest Glen on Tue Jul 6 00:40:06 2010.

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Hey, you are the one always comparing the NYCT subway to the DC Metro like the NYCT system must be up to par with DC. Why you keep bringing up London, I have no idea.

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