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CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 15 18:37:50 2010 CTA to Begin In-Service Testing of New Rail Cars4/15/2010 The Chicago Transit Authority today introduced prototypes of the agency's new 5000-series rail cars and announced that the cars will begin testing in passenger service starting next week. These new additions to the rail fleet offer a number of customer amenities in addition to added safety features and technologies that will enhance operations and maintenance and provide a smoother, more comfortable ride. The 5000-series prototypes – which have been undergoing testing by CTA engineers and representatives from the manufacturer for the last several months – will begin service on the Red Line and then will be tested on all eight rail lines through at least the end of the year. This in-service testing is the next step in the agency’s evaluation of the 10 rail car prototypes to determine how they perform when operating in the conditions that CTA's rail fleet is subject to throughout the year. The cars must successfully complete testing before the CTA will finalize the order of the remaining 396 rail cars. The prototype rail cars are similar in exterior appearance to the CTA's 3200-series cars that operate on the Orange and Brown lines. The new rail cars will replace CTA's oldest rail cars, between 32 and 41 years old, such as the 2200-series Budd cars that were purchased in 1969-70 and currently run on the Blue Line, as well as the 2400-series Boeing-Vertol cars purchased in 1976-78 currently operating on the Green and Purple lines. The rail cars offer a variety of new features and technologies to benefit CTA customers. Among them are: Safety There are seven networked security cameras per rail car and other additional safety features – glow-in-the-dark safety signs and floor strips outlining aisles and doorways in the event the car loses lights due to lack of power, an event recorder system similar to a black box on an airplane and sensitive door sensors that will detect obstructions better than CTA's current rail fleet. There are also a number of safety features that are not on the prototype rail cars, but will be included on the final order, including: the ability for the rail operator to view the interior of each rail car and speak to the people in that rail car via active passenger intercom. The Chicago Police Department will have remote video surveillance access and CTA’s Control Center will be able to make emergency audio and send emergency text messages to the LED signs inside of the train. Design A new aisle-facing seating configuration accommodates more customers per car. The seating arrangement adds six inches to the narrowest portion of the aisle which allows more room for customers carrying backpacks, packages, luggage, strollers and bikes. In addition, the configuration provides 38 seats and space for two wheelchair positions and added support poles and hand straps in the center of the car for standing customers. Other amenities include: an LED station indicator map with lights that move in conjunction with the train's location and electronic destination signs – widened to increase the size of the text, thereby improving readability – both inside and outside of the rail car. Efficiency and Reliability The 5000-series cars use regenerative braking technology. The AC (alternating current) propulsion system can reduce power consumption of the rail car by returning braking energy to the third rail for reuse to help power other trains and on-board electrical systems. In the CTA's older rail cars, the energy returned through the train braking is converted to heat and dissipated into the outside air. In addition, new diagnostic systems will alert a train operator to any issues with equipment when they occur, on a digital display in the motor cab. This allows CTA personnel to detect, troubleshoot and fix problems more quickly if something happens while a train is in service, and also provides a record of conditions and performance when the cars make it back to the shops for maintenance or repair. Comfort The existing CTA fleet uses DC (direct current) motors to drive trains. The new cars will use AC propulsion to convert the DC energy in the third (power) rail to alternating current for the traction motors. AC propulsion systems provide a smoother ride and are used by other major transit agencies including New York, Washington, D.C. and Atlanta. New heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems will keep cars at carefully calibrated temperatures, even in the most severe weather conditions. Prior to this contract, CTA's most recent purchase of new rail cars was in the 1990s when 3200-series cars were purchased for the opening of the Orange Line, and to replace older cars on the Brown and Yellow lines. Through a competitive RFP process, CTA selected Bombardier Transportation – located in Bensalem, Pennsylvania – to manufacture the cars. The CTA is using capital funding from the Federal Transit Administration and Illinois Department of Transportation in addition to revenue bonds to purchase the rail cars. The total cost for the 406 rail cars is $603.6 million. Weather forcasts says sun, sun, sun for Monday. I'll be out trackside for sure. David |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Apr 15 22:16:02 2010, in response to CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 15 18:37:50 2010. Look forward to your shots, man!! :-) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 16 09:26:00 2010, in response to CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 15 18:37:50 2010. They won't m. u. with other cars, correct? |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 09:54:27 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 16 09:26:00 2010. That is correct, they will not m.u. with other cars (our high performance cars) although they can mechanically couple in emergencies. The high performance cars could not m.u. with the PCC (6000s, 1-50s) cars either so this is nothing new to Chicago.David |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 16 10:16:59 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Apr 15 22:16:02 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 16 11:49:16 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 09:54:27 2010. Quite true. Oddly enough, the 4000s could and did intermix with wooden elevated cars. When the State St. subway opened, all the 4000s had to be rounded up from various yards. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Apr 16 12:46:53 2010, in response to CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 15 18:37:50 2010. Lucky for me that my one and only CTA ride (not much of one, just from O'Hare to River Road) was aboard a 2200 on the Blue Line. They'll probably be gone before I can get back to Chicago :(This was in June 1995, BTW. |
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Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 17:39:55 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 16 11:49:16 2010. TRIVIA QUESTION....Chicago subways.....besides the 4000s, 5000s, 6000s...back in the day what other equipment operated in revenue service in the subways???David |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 16 18:41:41 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 17:39:55 2010. 1-50. but which "day" 2000's from 64 on. IINM woodies were NEVER allowed underground. And AFAIK the freight motors would have stayed on the L |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 19:36:44 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 16 18:41:41 2010. NOPE...I'm lumping the 1-50s with their sisters and brothers, the 6000s. 1-50s would run only in the Dearborn Milwaukee subway too. "Back in the Day means no high performance equipment.David |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 16 20:25:46 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Apr 16 12:46:53 2010. I saw a solid, eight-car 2200-series train from the People Mover at O'Hare back in 1997 or 1998. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 16 20:38:55 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 19:36:44 2010. Hmmm, revenue service? So do you count the Santa flat as revenue service because it is coupled to in service cars w/ fare paying pax?I don't remember such trains in the 60s when I lived there, but.... |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 20:45:29 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 16 20:25:46 2010. Yes, at that time, all of the 2200s were assigned to the Blue line and were entrained in any order along with 2600s. You could have solid 8 cars, mixes of 6 and 2 or 4 and 4. Then the decision was made to have a 2600 pair at either end of an eight car train with either 2 pairs of 2200s in the middle or 2 more pairs of 2600s or a pair of each in the middle. The middle cars were called "belly cars." Other belly cars were assigned as such because their cab signal was bad order. They would have a tag on the grab iron informing switchmen not to have this cab on the end of a train. When four car trains are run, there are two combinations: all 2600s or a pair of 2200 and 2600s. Essentially four car trains are half of an eight car train and therefore there could be no solid 2200 four car trains. When the Pink line was created, all the 2200s migrated to the Blue. Before the Pink, eight car Blue line trains rattled almost empty on the Douglas branch, so the Pink line creation led to better car usage. Moving all the 2200s to the Blue eliminated repairs and parts being kept at 54th AV Terminal. The CTA has always led in creative thinking!!David |
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Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 20:51:44 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 16 20:38:55 2010. Heh! Heh! I don't think the Santa Train dated back that far. You are right....REVENUE is the key word here so no work equipment either.So what ran in the subway in revenue service besides 4000s, 5000s, 6000s (including one man cars)??? Heh! Heh! And fan trips don't count either. OK, I'll give you a hint. The train crew blew their horn to warn passengers at a subway station. They were quoted, "Well...we won't do that again." David |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 16 21:25:15 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 20:51:44 2010. CNSM? |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 21:35:39 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 16 21:25:15 2010. YESSSSSSSSS!!I like the story ....when a SB wouldn't take the lineup at Armitage Tower. The tower operator had to come down and insist that they take the lineup. Don't know for sure if it was an Electroliner or regular cars, but they were finally convinced. They blew the horn at North and Clybourn which reporded so scared the passengers they agreed not to do that again. When they got downtown they asked themselves, "Where do you think we should stop." Of course when they came back up onto the elevated, 17th tower could route them back to their regular terminal at Roosevelt. Another story said that a train of regular CNS&M took the detour and the crew heard a loud bang.....probably it was the smoke jack on the diner. LOL! David |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 21:40:03 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 21:35:39 2010. This is really too easy.....What 4000 through 3200 couldn't go through the subway?David |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Apr 16 22:34:45 2010, in response to Re: NEW TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 21:40:03 2010. SOAC!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 23:02:40 2010, in response to Re: NEW TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by R30A on Fri Apr 16 22:34:45 2010. Wasn't thinking of that.......SOAC did run here, it had to be kept farther away from the platform so it only ran on the Skokie Swift. The two stations had movable platform edges to accomodate the wide SOAC. YOU are a bonus winner!!!!!!!!!!! There's still the answer out there that I was looking for.David |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 17 01:03:24 2010, in response to CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 15 18:37:50 2010. Dave, do you need the official timetable? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Apr 17 01:06:16 2010, in response to Re: NEW TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 21:40:03 2010. actual Skokie Swift originals w/ the special poles. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 17 01:14:06 2010, in response to CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 15 18:37:50 2010. M-F,starting 4-19, the next 4 weeks. Departing Howard, 0612, 0901, 1244, 1550, and 1918. Departing 95th St. 0730, 1038, 1419, 1720, and 2048.4 Saturdays starting 4-24, departing Howard, 0600, 0900, 1229, 1531, and 1900. Departing 95th St. 0732, 1032, 1357, 1659, and 2035. 3 Sundays starting 4-25, departing Howard 0630, 0936, 1300, 1607, and 1938. Departing 95th St. 0755, 1105, 1435, 1735, and 2105. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 09:47:39 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 16 21:35:39 2010. You mean they actually ran North Shore trains in the State St. subway? I never heard about that. Yeah, you would have thought they would have been instructed where to stop (the long platform was a no-brainer). Or for that matter, where to go past the Loop. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sat Apr 17 11:02:42 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 17 01:03:24 2010. YES, YES, YES!Ha Ha, I just emailed you about that. Dave |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sat Apr 17 11:06:47 2010, in response to Re: NEW TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Apr 17 01:06:16 2010. DING!!!!! Number one correct answer. 1-50s, 51-54s, 60s, 3400s with bow trolleys and pantographs. The 3400s have their pans removed now, but they kept the walkways. Probably to prevent leaks if the walkway mountings had to be replaced.David |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sat Apr 17 11:21:55 2010, in response to Re:TRIVIA QUESTION.. CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 09:47:39 2010. You gotta remember that back in those days, MEN ran the railroad many times by the seat of their pants....there were no radios....managers and supervisors weren't crawling all over the place. North Shore trains on the "L" were motored and conductored....I like that.....by North Shore men. In the later years, there was a period when CTA crews took over at Howard ST for the run to downtown. I know this because I heard a story from one of the first Black CTA motorman who related how the arriving North Shore motorman refused to hand over the controls of his southbound Electroliner. The supervisor and manager had to physically intervene.But back to the story. Day in and day out, the interurbans went "over the top" and never through the subway. So there was probably no need to train and qualify North Shore people about the subway. There was probably a clearance test done on some day, but witnesses to that are probably all deceased by now. David |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sat Apr 17 11:27:58 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 17 01:14:06 2010. Gracias senor!David |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 17 11:35:29 2010, in response to Re: CTA Press Release...New 5000 Cars Run Monday, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sat Apr 17 11:27:58 2010. de nada |
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