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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010 The NYPD allowed the AP to visit the hidden exit — fronted by the phony house in a quiet residential neighborhood — on the condition that its origins and location not be disclosed. The department also barred photos. There’s a Brownstone in Brooklyn With a Secret Passage to the Subway [New York Magazine Daily Intel] Secret Passageway, Fake Building Just Part Of NYPD Anti-Terror Plan [AP via Huffington Post] |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Apr 12 22:33:03 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. Actually, the pictures are in one of the older books about the subway system. I have the book, and describes it. I won't go into detail, but it shows a picture of it inside this subway book. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Apr 12 23:18:32 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Apr 12 22:33:03 2010. I also have a copy of that book. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Mon Apr 12 23:20:36 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Apr 12 23:18:32 2010. Cudahy, "Under the Sidewalks of New York". |
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Posted by f179dj on Mon Apr 12 23:26:35 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. I give up. Anyone who's anyone in the TA knows about this fan plant. It's been there before 2001; and probably before I was born (don't ask, lol). Yes, fan plants often double as emergency exits, but we've been good neighbors there on Joralemon Street. And no, I did not read the links; once I saw what they were referring to, it was 'ho-hum.'Want some excitement. Have them investigate the emergency exit that comes out under the Brooklyn Esplanade, south of Fulton Street. Open that door and step out without looking, and you are history (or maybe a short story somewhere, well maybe an internet blurb). OK, I scanned the Huffington thing after typing the above. Officer McMillan (16 year veteran) says he rides the front of the train and scans the tracks with a FLASHLIGHT!! What, the headlights of the train are not good enough? His flashlight is brighter than the sealed beams? These are the same types of P/O's who during the York Street (F line, entrance to tube) fire herded passengers to the wrong end of the station. They may know where the under-river tunnel entrance is, but don't know the station layout. And, at the risk of abuse, why is the booth now covered with subway maps? To conceal the fact that it is not manned? To let the P/O sleep in piece? I mean, this has been going on since they were installed; no news here. |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Apr 12 23:31:04 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by R42 4787 on Mon Apr 12 23:20:36 2010. Correct! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Apr 12 23:31:19 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by R42 4787 on Mon Apr 12 23:20:36 2010. BINGO! |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 13 00:13:22 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. When did this building become a secret? It was well known by railfans in the 1960's.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Apr 13 00:40:46 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. Washington DC has two similar structures.This one houses air conditioning cooling tower and this one houses a traction power substation and an air conditioning cooling tower. The truck parked in front of the first one kind of gives away who own the property. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Apr 13 00:49:09 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. Yeesh, it's just an emergency exit. The AP acts like it's the only one we have. OOOOH, A SECRET ENTRANCE TO THE SUBWAY.They're yucky to walk through. Nothing exciting, except to see where you pop out from. |
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Posted by gbs on Tue Apr 13 01:18:51 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. all its windows are louvers, not glass panes. (At least they were the last time I passed by, a few years ago.) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Apr 13 01:21:27 2010, in response to The house is so obvious because...., posted by gbs on Tue Apr 13 01:18:51 2010. Yes, it stands out if you're looking for it. It's also the only building on that block with no discernible basement dwelling. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Apr 13 03:42:44 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 13 00:13:22 2010. My guess would be a railfan recently "discovered" the building and homeland security figures others must have done the same. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Apr 13 06:50:10 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by f179dj on Mon Apr 12 23:26:35 2010. Look at the booth @ 59th & Lex on the NRW windows are graffitti'd last time I was ther 2 weeks ago |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Apr 13 06:50:54 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 13 00:13:22 2010. It became a secret on 9/11 |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 13 10:06:09 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Apr 13 00:40:46 2010. The second one looks kinda like a fire station. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 13 10:23:40 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by arnine on Tue Apr 13 06:50:54 2010. It became a secret on 9/11I guess your right. Another pseudo-secret is the platform underneath the Waldorf-Astoria. This one has been the subject of a few TV shows as well, but there never was anything secret about it, just forgotten. It was well known to railfans in the 60's. I visted it back in the 1980's. There was a sign on the elevator for Pacific Fruit Express. It may have been used at one time for fresh fruit deliveries to the hotel. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Apr 13 10:30:04 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 13 10:23:40 2010. Yes most recently I saw a NBC special with Jane Pauly (?I think) called Underground NY (I think? - sorry I'm senile) where she took the cameras to that platform. I visited there recently couretsy of an MNR track guy I know I din't see anything so special tho |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Apr 13 12:15:40 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. What's the point of even making this entrance information public in the first place to the average person ? what the hell is the MTA and the NYPD thinking ? just leave it alone we all know what these people want and that is to kill people, just don't give out anything that has anything to do with these entrances at all.If no one knew about these what's the harm ? shessh.... Karl M |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Apr 13 18:18:52 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. Brooklyn Heights Blog took a trip to 58 Joralemon and some photos.
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Apr 13 21:36:03 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 13 10:06:09 2010. The second one looks kinda like a fire station.That would be because that was what that building was use for in its previous life. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Apr 13 22:13:12 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Apr 13 12:15:40 2010. "What's the point of even making this entrance information public in the first place..."Draws attention away from something they REALLY don't want anyone to know. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Apr 13 22:58:44 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. Good grief, it has nothing to do with an NYPD anti-terror plan. I saw something in passing on CNN today, showing NYPD anti-terror helicopters circling around the city, looking for "suspicious activity". This included a flyover of the Coney Island Yards. They said the subways park here, and they look for anything "out of place". |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Apr 14 11:43:11 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Apr 13 22:13:12 2010. Heh, good point. Karl M |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Apr 15 07:52:39 2010, in response to Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Apr 12 22:20:27 2010. Seems to me this is the usual media ignorance about anything to do with trains. How can the fake house be 'part of the anti-terror plans' - except as a vulnerable point needing guarding? The facade was built, as I understand it, to preserve the lok of the street when the subway was built, rather than have the street look 'gap-toothed'.London, incidenatlly, has a near-identical case (see http://www.urban75.org/london/leinster.html) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Apr 15 21:15:36 2010, in response to Re: Fifty-Eight Joralemon Street?, posted by Fytton on Thu Apr 15 07:52:39 2010. "The facade was built, as I understand it, to preserve the look of the street when the subway was built, rather than have the street look 'gap-toothed'."Water pumping stations in residential neighborhoods are commonly built to look like homes for this reason-- just for looks, not to "hide" anything. This is nothing new. |
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