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Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes? |
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Posted by b1bus on Thu Nov 19 19:58:59 2009 Can a senior citizen or medicare employee also have a 1/2 fare metrocard? After all, LI bus and MTA bus don't accept NYCT employee passes. Could also be used on Metro North and LIRR. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 20:17:03 2009, in response to Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by b1bus on Thu Nov 19 19:58:59 2009. City employees don't even get free rides on the MTA. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Nov 19 20:42:11 2009, in response to Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by b1bus on Thu Nov 19 19:58:59 2009. I heard that a NYCT employee pass isn't accepted on SIRwy and vice versa.Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 21:31:53 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 20:17:03 2009. Why should they? MTA is a state agency and even state employees generally don't get free rides on the MTA IINM |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 22:52:12 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 21:31:53 2009. Because they work for the city and keep it moving, and should be able to use their cities' transportation whenever they'd like for free. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Nov 19 22:59:11 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Nov 19 20:42:11 2009. That's so weird to me. They should be allowed to ride all of them as a professional courtesy. Don't the airlines still do that or did they get rid of it? It used to be that airline crews could ride any airlines for free as long as they were in uniform. |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 23:09:01 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 22:52:12 2009. IINM NYCT or MTA is not a city agency. The city does however, provide subsidy to the MTA to help fund NYCT but NYCT is still a state agency. So no, they should not ride for free. Hell, they IINM are going to make city vehicles pay tolls on TBTA facilities |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 23:10:16 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 19 22:59:11 2009. The airlines IINM do not offer rides for free but at a deep discount |
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Posted by 7 Local on Thu Nov 19 23:16:24 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Nov 19 20:42:11 2009. You're right...SIRT doesn't accept employee passes. You can get by if you flash your pass at someone to let you in.Kinda odd since they use Transit resources to maintain their system. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Nov 19 23:18:52 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 23:10:16 2009. They used to do it for free if you needed to travel a route that your airline didn't serve. I remember meeting some flight attendants from Pan Am that lived somewhere in North Carolina. They flew internationally, but since Pan Am didn't fly to North Carolina they would fly other airlines for free back and forth to JFK where they started their route. This was 20 or more years ago though. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 23:53:27 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 23:09:01 2009. I don't think that it matters whether NYCT is a state or city-run agency, either way it's still made to transport people within the city. The people that work for the city it's made to serve should also be able to ride free for their help in running the city, and to make sure that they can get to their workplace without any financial burdens to make sure that they can keep on working and helping the city. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Nov 20 01:07:33 2009, in response to Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by b1bus on Thu Nov 19 19:58:59 2009. If you apply for it separately, sure. I always carry a regular MetroCard with money on it in case of an emergency. |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 09:17:07 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 23:53:27 2009. Sorry I disagree. Where would the MTA get the lost revenue if they did that, or is the city gonna pay for the free rides? Which means us taxpayers pay. Transportation is a normal expense of working. Using your logic, cops, firemen, doctors, nurses should ride free too the help too? Or, I guess me as an MNR worker should be allowed to ride NYCT for free since MNR is a public service?Where do you draw the line. Sorry, but I don't think your logic is right. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 20 10:11:39 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Nov 19 20:42:11 2009. True. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 20 10:15:07 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 19 22:59:11 2009. I think if you show your TA pass to an MTA bus driver it would be honored (at least most times) but not if you swipe. Haven't tried it though. I remember when TA employees couldn't ride MaBSTOA buses. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Nov 20 11:29:08 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Nov 19 20:42:11 2009. Someone told me that NYCT employees can show their passes to conductors on Metro North and LIRR and they will be honored. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Nov 20 11:38:38 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 09:17:07 2009. I agree with you regarding nurses and doctors, but I would think that members of the NYPD and FDNY would be able to ride NYCT for free as long as they're in uniform. That's what SEPTA does (from the SEPTA City Transit Division fare tariff):a. The following persons will be carried on regularly scheduled route service operated by City Transit Division at no charge: 1) Police Officers, Sheriffs and Sheriff's Deputies, of the City of Philadelphia. Officers must be in dress uniform to receive free transportation. 2) City of Philadelphia firefighters, when in uniform. 3) SEPTA Board members and Authority Officers presenting valid passes. 4) SEPTA employees and retirees presenting valid picture ID transportation passes. 5) Detectives of the City of Philadelphia when presenting valid identification and gold badge. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Nov 20 11:39:30 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 09:17:07 2009. I agree with you regarding nurses and doctors, but I would think that members of the NYPD and FDNY would be able to ride NYCT for free as long as they're in uniform. That's what SEPTA does (from the SEPTA City Transit Division fare tariff):a. The following persons will be carried on regularly scheduled route service operated by City Transit Division at no charge: 1) Police Officers, Sheriffs and Sheriff's Deputies, of the City of Philadelphia. Officers must be in dress uniform to receive free transportation. 2) City of Philadelphia firefighters, when in uniform. 3) SEPTA Board members and Authority Officers presenting valid passes. 4) SEPTA employees and retirees presenting valid picture ID transportation passes. 5) Detectives of the City of Philadelphia when presenting valid identification and gold badge. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 20 11:42:53 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 19 23:18:52 2009. Are you sure it wasn't a reimbursement from Pan AM? |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Nov 20 11:43:24 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Nov 20 11:39:30 2009. Apologies for the duplicate post...Anyway, SEPTA's policies are similar on the Regional Rail and on Suburban Transit. |
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Posted by IRT/O on Fri Nov 20 12:36:46 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Nov 20 11:29:08 2009. Depends. You got to be cool. |
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Posted by IRT/O on Fri Nov 20 12:40:11 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 23:09:01 2009. NYCT, TBTA are city workers. You go through DCAS to get hired. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 20 12:44:08 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Nov 20 11:29:08 2009. And? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 20 13:09:31 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Nov 20 11:29:08 2009. Not all the time though.Depends on the Conductor as well... |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 13:55:37 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Nov 20 11:29:08 2009. No, official policy is no. Many conductors will honor it as a professional courtesy but it is not required that they do. My advice is have a ticket just in case. It is the same way in return. MNR/LIRR employees aren't allowed to ride NYCT for free but it depends on the station agent. |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 13:57:33 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Nov 20 11:43:24 2009. No I agree NYPD/FDNY should ride free in uniform but not while getting to work. The logic used to say city workers should ride free is just bad logic. |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 14:18:37 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by IRT/O on Fri Nov 20 12:40:11 2009. Your right, I stand corrected.Although, the logic that all city workers should ride for free is still flawed though. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Nov 20 14:57:50 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 09:17:07 2009. Where would the MTA get the lost revenue if they did that, or is the city gonna pay for the free rides? Which means us taxpayers pay.Sorry, but I doubt that taxes are going to soar just because city employees can ride the transportation system for free. Using your logic, cops, firemen, doctors, nurses should ride free too the help too? Or, I guess me as an MNR worker should be allowed to ride NYCT for free since MNR is a public service? Doctors, Nurses, MNR workers, no. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Nov 20 15:32:18 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 13:57:33 2009. It's useful to allow NYPD and FDNY personnel even enroute to work since they can respond to emergencies even out of uniform. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Nov 20 15:35:45 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 13:55:37 2009. I always buy a ticket when riding M-N or LIRR and if the C/R honors my NYCTA pass, Imerely apply for a refund. |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 18:30:21 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Nov 20 14:57:50 2009. Sorry your logic is still faulty. Let's just agree to disagree on this. |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 18:32:02 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 20 15:32:18 2009. Ok that's a good point. Actually, wait aren't they already allowed? IIRC (just remembered) after an incident waren't they all issues MetroCards? |
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Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 18:44:42 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 20 15:35:45 2009. Exactly. When I used to seek professional courtesy that is what I used to do. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Sat Nov 21 10:31:51 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 20 15:35:45 2009. No I dont seek refunds. I'm a frequent rider of these railroads |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 21 10:39:57 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 18:32:02 2009. The rules used to be posted in the window of the booth at Union Turnpike. If I recall correctly police officers in uniform ride free but firefighters have to be in turnout gear including helmet to ride free |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 21 16:44:01 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Sat Nov 21 10:31:51 2009. Well, your case is different. I am not a frequent rider so Any ticket I purchase could expire before I had a chance to use it again. |
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Posted by Clayton on Sat Nov 21 17:33:47 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by IRT/O on Fri Nov 20 12:40:11 2009. Not at all. While DCAS does do the hiring (and that is something they are trying to not do anymore), they are NOT city workers. They are employees of the State. |
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Posted by Clayton on Sat Nov 21 17:39:18 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 20:17:03 2009. It sucks! But they are eligible for a "Premium TransitBenefit card". It acts as a unlimited card which is funded via $41.08 pre-tax payroll deduction every two weeks. The regular monthly unlimited is $89, and that's post-tax too. You do the math... |
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Posted by b1bus on Sat Nov 21 18:45:35 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Nov 20 01:07:33 2009. I think you are the only one who answered my question somewhat. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 21 20:29:01 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Clayton on Sat Nov 21 17:33:47 2009. That is not necessarily the case since although the NYCTA is under the MTA umbrella, its employees are not direct employees of the parent agency but rather the subsidiary agency with the possible exception of some of the managerial staff who were directly hired by the MTA and assigned to the NYCTA or its other constituent agencies. At the present time NYCTA employees are members of the NYC Employee Retirement system and in other ways are subject to the NYC civil service laws and regulations. |
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Posted by Clayton on Sat Nov 21 20:41:28 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 21 20:29:01 2009. How about that, I had no idea NYCTA employees were part of NYCERS. That makes sense then. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 22:19:20 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 19 23:53:27 2009. No, they shouldn't. Next you'll argue that employees of private corporations working for the city should get free rides. Where does it end? |
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Posted by IRT/O on Sun Nov 22 00:22:48 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Clayton on Sat Nov 21 20:41:28 2009. And so are TBTA. I don't know about SIR. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 00:59:37 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 22:19:20 2009. Next you'll argue that employees of private corporations working for the city should get free rides.Not really. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 03:14:36 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 00:59:37 2009. Someone would. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 03:22:16 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 03:14:36 2009. I just think that city workers who directly serve the public should get free rides. This includes police officers, firefighters, paramedics, teachers, and government office customer service representatives. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 03:32:22 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 03:22:16 2009. How are you going to pay for this? Taxes or is it going to come out of their salary? If the latter, then that's how TransitChek works and if I worked at one of those jobs I'd prefer to choose whether I wanted a transit benefit or not. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 03:40:18 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 03:32:22 2009. Taxes, if it comes out of their salaries then it's not free. A lot city workers that directly deal with the public don't really get paid that well and would appreciate free public transportation. |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Nov 22 09:40:34 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 03:40:18 2009. Hmmm.... I work for MNR serving the public and don't get paid very well (hence I work a 2nd f/t job) I'd appreciate free rides on the subway or buses. But should it happen? No.NYCT is not a city agency (some employees of NYCT may be city) it is a state agency. The only ones who should ride for free IMHO and by current day rule is NYPD/FDNY. That is it. Sorry, city workers have a job like anyone else and should pay like everyone else. A lot of workers work with the public and don't make much money either. City workers in other areas and states don't get free public transit, hell some don't even have a public transit system. City workers can get TransitChek and pay much less than the $89 MetroCard. I get TransitChek too from my non-MNR job and quite content with it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 22 09:45:18 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Sun Nov 22 09:40:34 2009. NYCT is not a city agency (some employees of NYCT may be city) it is a state agency.The only thing thats city about us is the pension NYCERS and the Agency we got hired though NYC DCAS... |
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