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Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 19 10:20:10 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 10:08:35 2009. LMAO. In years to come, Iraq will be called Stalingrad. That's all I'm going to discuss here at SubChat. You want to talk more, bring it to OTChat.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 10:39:50 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 19 08:18:47 2009. absolutely. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 10:44:33 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 19 10:20:10 2009. Whatever, but the mesiah could do what we was elected to do and that is bring everyone home from Iraq imediately. He knows how to act quickly when it has to do with stimulus packages ("Unemployment will not go above 8%.") It is now over 10%!He knows how to try and ram socialized medicine down our throats, why doesn't he just bring everyone home? Then he could really start a global apology tour. He can bow to anyone he wants. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 10:45:50 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Nov 17 15:16:16 2009. They didn't do anything in 2001 to prevent 9/11, they wouldn't have done anything in 1993. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 10:54:40 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 10:39:50 2009. would you anti socialists please notice that the NY subway and EVERY OTHER US urban transit system is owned operated by the government--your "hobby" is the study of a socialist enterprise. If you are so afraid of socialism, please form a VC firm to run a capitalist subway. Oh, right, they ALL went bankrupt there is NO liklihood there ever will be a new one. And if you are a veteran, do you refuse to use the socialised medecine purveyed by the VA? You are welcome to your opinions, but the disconnect between ideology and the reality is a bit annoying. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 11:31:13 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 10:45:50 2009. Oh Yes they would have. The difference is that the comander in chief recognized the threat in January 2001 but he knew it would be a difficult road. He tried to obtain as much information and consider all options necessary to try and reach a bipartisan solution. Of course this is not happening with this administration.In any event, suppose we imediately went into Afganistan in January 2001, and we were able to PREVENT 9/11, they would have questioned why we had to go into Afganistan in the first place. Bottom line, the world changed after 9/11 and the previous administration took the position that we will pull out all stops to PREVENT it from happening again. Mission acomplished! It nevert happend again and several attacks were prevented. Now 10 months into this new administration, we are closing prison camps, going around the world apologizing and bringing the 9/11 criminals to NYC to try them in civil court. What if they are acquitted? This administration says they will nto be acquitted. Where is the ACLU? I though you were innocent until proven guilty. WHat would we do with Bin Laden if we caught him? Try him in Manhattan as well? November 2010 cannot arrive fast enough. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 11:35:45 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 10:54:40 2009. This may be true but we never owned banks and automobile corporations either. What is happening here is we are turning the USA into the USSR and in case you haven't noticed, 70% or AMericans do not approve of this health care plan, Obama's approval rating is below 50% and even foreign countries are laughing at us.I hope we do not get China to mad becasue we need someone to keep buying up our debt. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 11:44:06 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 10:44:33 2009. The war was *won* years ago. Saddam and his regime was overturned; the Taliban was tossed out of power in Af'stan. The Talleyban will come back, Saddam will not.Troops (they are troops) do only one thing well: The Break Things and Kill People. Once that job is done, their job is done. Troops cannot bring peace, that is NOT their function. After WW-II we OCCUPIED Axis countries. *WE* provided the government and ran everything at our pleasure. It was several YEARS before we removed the occupation and returned the government to the peoples of Germany, Italy, and Japan. We no longer OCCUPY countries that we conqueror in war, so we really cannot control or dictate the shape of peace of the government and/or its adversaries. Mr. Hitler tried to exterminate Jews. He failed, and both Jews and Israel are stronger than ever. Mr. H of course was an evil devil full of hate and shit, but *WE* will have no better luck trying to exterminate AlQuida or the Tailiban than he had with his hideous project. Those terrorists will survive, and their hatred will survive no matter what we do over there. ADD to this the fact that they are Islamic, and we are Christian (sort of, anyway) and so they have deeply rooted history and ideology to both defend and to draw succor (and recruits) from. AND we have no intention of overturning Islam, that is not our way, it is not moral, and is quite impossible anyway. The peoples in these lands will have to grow the way that they will grow. Some will always be our enemies, that is to say that they will choose to be our enemies. We are willing to be friends with anyone who is willing to be friends with us. Call us naive, but that is the way the world is. It pays to have the strongest Military on the face of the planet. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 11:46:26 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 19 08:18:47 2009. AMEN! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 11:57:18 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 10:54:40 2009. The government also owns the streets and highways, and manages the airports. It is fine for these agencies to be operated by the government, local government is far better than federal government.Health costs are 1/6th of the US economy. This is ok. It gives people work, and gives us the finest health care system in the world. To socialize that, which operates just fine thank you, is a major plunge into socialism and into debt. Obama prints money like it is going out of style, and if he continues, it WILL go out of style, and no other country or investor will touch our debt. At that point the concept "Too Big to Fail" will be blown to hell and back. Just ask the Wiemar Republic what happens to jerks who print money. WE are a people, and WE decide what sorts of infrastructure we want. Right now a pic of Bway at 96th St is on my desktop. There are streets, there are sidewalks, there is public housing, there are buses, and of course the subway. The things that are outside my front door are in my front yard. AND MY FRONT YARD EXTENDS BETWEEN THE ATLANTIC AND THE PACIFIC OCEANS. I have no objection to paying taxes to maintain these infrastructures. I have no objection to helping those people who need assistance, whatever that assistance may be. BUT I OBJECT to the Socialists taking over the whole country, to taking over banks, auto companies, insurance companies, the health care system. They also have their eyes on destroying the energy sector too under the guise of Green Lies! ROAR |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:01:24 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 11:44:06 2009. Amen! and the clown in the White House will be decorating a "Holiday" Tree instead of a Christmas Tree. What an outrage. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 12:03:27 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:01:24 2009. Socialists always try to destroy religion.ROAR |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:08:17 2009, in response to Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 11:57:18 2009. Wow! I could not have said it better myself.Take away the teleprompter from Obama and we have 57 states, and we do not know the difference between Menorial Day & Veterans Day. He is a total and utter disgrace. I am sure Jimmy Carter is his number 1 fan because until the community activist came along, Jimmy was the worst president we ever had. If Ross Perot does not run in 1992, George HW is reelected. The WTC maybe is attacked in 1993 but we pull out all stops and 9/11 is prevented. We do not spend time with interns |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:12:01 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 12:03:27 2009. That is so true. They have no trouble killing babies but God Forbid we use enhanced interrogation or we fry a terrorist. I think Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, Barbara Streisand and Bruce Springsteen should pay a lot more taxes. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 19 13:31:44 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:01:24 2009. Did you hear B. O. didn't wear a costume on Halloween? He should have worn a clown outfit - he's a bozo already. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 19 13:33:11 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:12:01 2009. That's one of the biggest issues I have with B. O. - his support of abortion and government funding. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 13:56:51 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 19 13:33:11 2009. Absolutely. I thought he is in costume. He is disguising himself as an American. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:14:26 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:12:01 2009. FETI AREN'T BABIES! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:15:00 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 13:56:51 2009. As opposed to you guys who don't even bother to pretend to believe in real American values. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:21:45 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 11:35:45 2009. This may be true but we never owned banksFirst Bank of the United States. There was a second one too. You know what they say: Those who fail history are doomed to become Republicans. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:26:03 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:08:17 2009. If Ross Perot does not run in 1992, George HW is reelected.False. This has been thoroughly disproved. The WTC maybe is attacked in 1993 but we pull out all stops and 9/11 is prevented. When Clinton bombed Afghanistan in 1998, the Repukelican Congress accused him of "wagging the dog" to deflect attention from the Republican's unnecessary incursion into Clinton's pants. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:33:50 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 11:31:13 2009. Oh Yes they would have. The difference is that the comander [sic] in chief recognized the threat in January 2001 but he knew it would be a difficult road.Yes, the commander in chief for most of January 2001. The commander in chief for the rest of January promptly ignored the previous administration's warnings and blatantly ignored a memo that stated that Bin Laden was determined to strike in the US. In any event, suppose we imediately [sic] went into Afganistan [sic] in January 2001, and we were able to PREVENT 9/11, they would have questioned why we had to go into Afganistan [sic] in the first place. Like in 1998. Maybe if Bush were president then the Congress would be concerned more with real issues like an upper class tax cut instead of how the president was getting off. Bottom line, the world changed after 9/11 and the previous administration took the position that we will pull out all stops to PREVENT it from happening again. Mission acomplished! [sic] It nevert happend [sic] again and several attacks were prevented. That's specious reasoning. Now 10 months into this new administration, we are closing prison camps, going around the world apologizing and bringing the 9/11 criminals to NYC to try them in civil court. What if they are acquitted? Why do you hate America so much? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:05:40 2009, in response to Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 11:57:18 2009. The US health care system is a huge mess for where I sit. I am blackballed from ANY non government insurance courtesy of a genetic pre-existing condition. As to costs, the glaucoma scrip I use is half price in Canada even though the actual product is manufactured here. BTW the Canadian system is single PAYER--the Provinces--but totally independent providers--pick the doc you want. So as one option simply having Medicare PAY your favorite doctor/dentist/clinic as the full cost would actually REDUCE costs. But, hey socialised medecine that's the VA/active armed forces, and BTW the Bethesda Naval Medical Center which is the fave of most of the Congress critters. As to banks, failed auto companies not my plan, I would have let them fold.As to the energy sector, I mostly heat water in my house w/ a solar system, and I am building a solar PV system. The hot water for showers/washing dishes is not a lie, but I use less billable energy thus pay less in monthly bills. Oh, and I USE transit--no car. So, I am working for a greener planet--as you choose not to believe the scientists who warn of impending disaster if we don't smarten up, I choose not to believe the scientists on oil company payrolls who say its all bunk. You like smog? I suspect not, so why not reduce same? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:17:40 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 11:35:45 2009. First, China can be as mad as they wish. If they don't keep our currency healthy, the debt holdings they have become toilet paper.As to the Feds owning or bailing out failed US capitalist entities, how do you think Conrail happened? If the Feds hadn't poured in billions, the bankrupts would have ben torn up. And, going further back, during WWI the Feds seized the entire US mainline RR system because it was logjammed and not moving freight fast enough. The Fed program of mass producing standardised locomotives and freight cars was a huge success--The majority of steam engines built after WW"I were copies of the USRA models the RRs had been given. OTOH, when your friends at GM were producing M16/AR15s for the previous useless and stupid war, they were gouging the DOD at about 3 times what the OEM price had been. (DOD gave them the high price in order to have higher production in a hurry, but hey ripping off the taxpayers is okay when it is major industry, right?) Spend some more time learning the history. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:19:19 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:21:45 2009. I am a proud Republican. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:19:30 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:21:45 2009. I am a proud Republican. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:22:17 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:26:03 2009. THat is exactly what we accused him of. This is becasue he had absolutely no plan about anything. The only reason why there was prosperity in the 1990's was because of Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress. Then when the slickster was in trouble in 1995-96 he moved even further to the center/right and past the welfare reform bill. Gee how many attacks were there in the 1990's What was done aout the USS Cole? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:32:11 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:33:50 2009. I am not going to even waste time explaining this nonsense. The clinton administration was a joke and everyone knew it. This clown actually put rules in place in 1995 that prohibitted the FBI & CIA from sharing information with each other. He did absolutely nothing but govern according to popularity polls.I love America and Mr. Obama apologizes for America around the world. Remember 48% of us did not vote for the Mesiah. Now if you factor in al lof the illegal votes from ACORN and all of the Hillary people, 48% gets closer to 50%. By the way don's worry about the President Bush Tax Cuts, they will expire next year and everyone will get hit with a tax hike. In addition, there will be energy taxes and there will be tremendous cuts to medicare and social security to fund healthcare for illegals and even people that do not necessarily need it at age 23. We should INCREASE benefits to our military and our veterans. THEY should be taken care of first period. Psst if I am wrong, what happened back on November 4th in Virgina, NJ, Westchester & Nassau? Good Day |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:33:19 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 12:12:01 2009. enhanced interrogation is just wrong by my ethical moral standards. Capital punishment is a separate issue--there are many crimes I might apply it to. The problem is how broken the current justice system is. Are you willing to regularly execute innocent persons because they are so poor they get s$%t for brains, lazy lawyers? I am not.You want to argue abortion, start by committing to feed and clothe adequately the ones already here. Not willing to share, eh? but insist more unwanted be born whom you will ignore? Again, fails by my moral standards. Now, got any useful news of our favorite socialist rail system? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 17:36:58 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:05:40 2009. US Healthcare takes 1/6th of the GNP! We access more health care than any other people.There really is no such thing as health care insurance. Insurance is what you buy on your house or your car, and you hope that you will never collect a penny on those policies. Health care "insurance" is really a finance scheme, and should be sold and regulated as such. If you had "insurance" before you were diagnosed with a disease, then it would not be a pre-existing condition, and since you were paying into the policy it would cover you. If this disease was from childhood, then it would have been covered under your parent's policy. Well, ok, not everybody had a policy back in those days. But I was only restating the "Insurance Company' line here, my plan, of course, is different. Since it is not insurance, but financial product, they would be happy to take your money. But you are still PAYING for the health product that you use. I pay $500.00 a month for health insurance. That is $6,000 a year. I am somewhat scandalized by that amount, but then the last time I earned any money, it was less than $14,000 a year. Prices were cheaper back then. In today's money, that might be $60,000 a year, in which case the $6,000 looks far more reasonable. But the bottom line here is that if you consume a product you are responsible for paying for that product. So, it does not matter if YOU pay for your insurance, if your employer pays for your insurance, or it is taken out of your hide by the tax collector to pay for your coverage. If you are unable to pay for your health care, this is NOT a problem of the health care system, and fkg with the system will not fix YOUR problem. If Poverty is the problem: Address Poverty. If Insurance policy and regulation is a problem: Fix financial regulation. LION SAYS: 1) Sell Health Care Products Interstate. 2) Regulate them like interstate commerce. 3) Require these products be Federally Insured (like banks) so that your equity in your product is protected even if you change product providers. This also protects providers from catastrophic expenses. ROAR |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:38:18 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:05:40 2009. If this public option is passed costs would skyrocket. First of all the reimbursement to doctors would decline which would result in doctors not accepting the plans or doctors leavign the profession. You would nto be able to attrack new highly qualified doctors becasue these young men and women can become more financially independant in other careers, you are not building any more facilities for all of these new people and the government will decide who gets an MRI and how long they need to wait for one.Remember Americans do not leave America for healthcare people from al lover the globe come here for our health care. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:41:44 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:17:40 2009. If the wars were so useless and stupid why didn't the anti-war candidate that unfortunately won the election bring everyone home on January 22, 2009?He unfortunately is the commander in chief now. WHy is he contimplating sending additional troups to Afganistan? WHy did he keep the secretary od defense? Why is wire tapping still allowed? I guess he is stupid also. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:47:43 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 17:33:19 2009. Why aren't sonograms of TOP's made public? Because there would be outrage. Last time I checked, NY is the welfare capital of the USA. WHat else do you want us to do? Maybe we should provide free cars, gas and parking spaces.It is amazing the way someone's opinion regarding capital punishment abruptly changes when it hits home. Even the community organizer has been saying that after the terrorists are tried, convicted and given the death penality, we won't object. I wonder if the ACLU was listening to that remark? I say do whatever is necessary to obtain the information to protect all of the people of the United States of America. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:50:41 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 17:36:58 2009. Amen! again. I pay $2,400.00 a month for insurance for myself and family. DOn't you think I would be for this healthcare plan if I though it would reduce my premium and maintain the level of quality? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:00:26 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Nov 19 17:36:58 2009. you are welcome in my view to buy your healthcare financial product from a private profit making venture if you choose. I prefer to buy mine from Medicare. I vote to have this scheme opened up to all. As to the genetic vision disease, it was unknown how/why the symptoms emerged when I was 5, now at 65 we know more. Even the supposedly friendly NON profit Kaiser folks don't want those of us afflicted with ongoing problems. As you might imagine, lousy eyesight has been a detriment to my financial performance over the years.But, ultimately we just disagree. You want the right I want the left. But hey, you do nice modeling work--you can't be all bad. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:18:57 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:47:43 2009. I have no idea what a TOP is.As to capital punishment, I don't claim to agree with any other specific person. I stated that I am conflicted because when I read about a guy being convicted whose defense attorney snoozed during the trial, I am not willing to believe he got a fair trial. Are you willing to execute someone whose trial was obviously compromised? As to torture (no euphemisms needed) it fails my morals test. And unless you forget the innocent until guilty idea, how do you decide who to torture? As to welfare in NYC, exactly why is this a surprise? NYC is the largest US city, thus it has more...fill in the blanks than any other US city. Rail Transit comes to mind. Ya know, most of your Republican confreres think the subway is a waste of woney better spent on more freeways for SUVs. Are you proud to be associated with them? And exactly where did I say anything about free cars etc/? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:30:14 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:38:18 2009. Actually you are wrong on several counts. Years ago a friend of mine arranged her trip to Britain so her kid would be born on the NHS rather than pay cash (no health plan job in the US). BTW spend some time reading T R Reid's book on healthcare--he has some interesting facts.Now as to not accepting Medicare, that is a simple itewm. No doctor will practice long in the US without a DEA license to write prescriptions--make it conditional on agreeing to accept Medicare-game over. So the $300k a year doctors leave--NO LOSS. BTW there are and have been for years foreign trained DRs who would be happy to practice here. We restrict them as a way of supporting high prices for care--we let in the foreign trained nurses as strike breakers. To hear the capitalists tell it we HAVE enough hospital beds, so capacity is not the issue. As to rationing, we HAVE it now--its called health insurance. Ever read about the bonuses handed out to the clerks who denied the most care requests within a company? These are the people who need to change to a socially useful job. Okay, I need to go cut some weeds in my backyard now. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:33:45 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:41:44 2009. stupid? maybe. less than perfect? damn straight!And even I who want the US troops out of Iraq already am clear it cannot be a 24 hour exercise. But remember, no one will need to turn out the light at the end of the tunnel because the electricity fails regularly. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 18:37:35 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:33:45 2009. And even I who want the US troops out of Iraq. . . so the Iranian Revolutionary Guard can be invited in? (Save that stuff for OTChat.) |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 18:57:31 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:18:57 2009. Absolutely. Are you proud to be associated with Welfare cases like Michael Moore, Charlie Rangle Rev. Wright Bill Aires, John Kerry, 7 Ted Kennedy?TOP means Termination of Pregnancy. WHen Charkes "Chuck E Cheese" Shumer went to Presdient Bush in 2001, after 9/11 he asked him I beleive for 24 billion to rebuild. President Bush gave it to him imediately. If he would have asked for 30 Billion he would have gotten it. Yet this administration has CUT funding for security for NYC. Just like the Clinton administration cut funding for the military and closed bases in NY & Phili. By the way I know a Democrat by the name of OJ simpson that likes freeways and SUV's. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 19:01:53 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:18:57 2009. Do you have any idea how many rent controleld apartments Charlie Rangle has? Did you know that David Do Nothing Dinkins has always lived in a rent controlled apartment? Ho about Charlie Rangle's classic Mercedes that has been illegally parked in a DC garage for five years? Maybe he should pick up a metrocard?NYC is the welfare capital because we are the most liberal with social policies. Remember what happened when Rudy implemented finger-printing for welfare receipients? Remember how many were discovered to be double dipping? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 19:06:49 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:30:14 2009. Wrong Wrong Wrong. Why not limit the awards for malpractice claims?Why not REGULATE trial lawyers? What is wrong with a doctor making 300K per year? What is 300K anyway. To be a family doctor requires 8 years of college and at least 1 of residency. During residency you work 100 hours per week for little pay. To be a surgeon requires another 4 to 8 years depending on the speciality. In other words youy are starting life @ age 32 or 33 with all kinds of loans. You are not imediately making 300K. Why isn't there outrage over A-Rod's or Oprah's salary? I wonder how many years of school they went to? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 19:08:29 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 18:33:45 2009. Too bad the left didn;t realize that a year ago. Heck if they knew then what they knew now about their man Barack, I do not think Michale Moore is too happy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 19:10:17 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:47:43 2009. I'm not opposed and was never opposed to capital punishment for mass murder and terrorism...after a trial, conviction and exhaustion of appeals.I agree with you about "TOPs." I'd like to see them post a sonogram of an abortion of a chimpanzee and say it's a human. None of the anti-abortion idiots will realize they've been duped, because: Just because it looks like a human doesn't make it a human! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 19:15:16 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:22:17 2009. How many US troops died abroad under Clinton?How many US troops died abroad under Bush? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 19:20:08 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:32:11 2009. Now if you factor in al lof the illegal votes from ACORN and all of the Hillary people, 48% gets closer to 50%.So are you saying that Obama was not elected just like Bush wasn't? Psst if I am wrong, what happened back on November 4th in Virgina, NJ, Westchester & Nassau? Good Day Local elections mean nothing on a national level. NJ can elect a Republican governor, but it will never elect another Republican senator or president. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 19:22:32 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 19:15:16 2009. How many attacks happened under clinton? How many were PREVENTED?How many attacks happened under President Bush? How many were prevented? How many attacks happened under Obama? right now 1 stay tuned. Remember President Bush is pro-life. As much as it kills us hearing about casualities abroad, think of how much it must have killed President Bush especially since he knew he could have easily brough everyone home. But he made a vow to protect us no matter how unpopular it was and he stuck to it. President Bush and Laura are tremendous people. Look at the way he governed in Texas? Look at the way he honored the Kennedy family at the White House. Look at the way he went again his own party and gave us a prescription drug plan. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 19:28:38 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 19:20:08 2009. Last time I checked President Bush won in 2000 and in 2002 picked up seats in the House and Senate. Then he thanfully won a commanding victory in 2004 during an unpopular war and also picked up seats.Unfortunately we did not do as well in 2006 & 2008 but 2009 is likwe 1993 and 2010 will be like 1994. By the way how did Al Franken suddenly win in Minnesota? Also remember during the 2000 election when Florida was called pre-maturely? The Polls in the west were still opened for another two hours. You do not think that early call didn't have an effect? THis is why it is not done anymore. Too Bad Al gore did not win, if he did there probably wouldn't be any buildings left in Manhattan. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Nov 19 19:33:56 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 18:57:31 2009. Ted Kennedy was an inheritor of the classic American style--his father was a criminal (bootlegger). Michael Moore has proffited from making movies--don't pay to see them if you don't want to contribute. BTW what is wrong with making a movie and getting paid for it? I thought Republicans LIKED entrepreneurs. Kerry married a well heeled widow, so what is your beef with him about money? Nowhere did I mention any affection for Rev Wright, or Rangel, or Ayers(spellcheck), As to TOP, that is a decision foe the pregnant person AND NO ONE ELSE! If you don't believe in individual freedom for half of the human race, we have little to discuss. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 19:37:37 2009, in response to Re: Roar: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 19:22:32 2009. How many attacks happened under clinton? How many were PREVENTED?How many attacks happened under President Bush? How many were prevented? How could you possibly know how many attacks were prevented? Do you work for the CIA, NSA or FBI? In which case, why are you revealing national secrets? Look at the way he went again his own party and gave us a prescription drug plan. When it comes to socialized medicine by a Republican, you're in favor of it, but when it comes to universal but not completely socialized medicine from a Democrat, you're against it. You'd be against Social Security in the 30s and Medicare in the 60s. |
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