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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:27:13 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:16:59 2009.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 18 15:34:56 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 14:25:17 2009.

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Carry any liquid in an open container onto a train or bus
Litter or create unsanitary conditions

Can both be interpreted to prohibit eating or drinking. But the lack of a specific prohibition means you have a viable defense if cited.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:40:22 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 18 15:34:56 2009.

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No, has nothing to do with eating. A liquid would involve drinking.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 16:01:39 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Nov 18 15:00:38 2009.

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I did not know about that remote unlock thing.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 18 16:04:12 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 13:09:32 2009.

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They use the unravel Circal with a drink and something for eating with a line thought it to say not eating. It there along with a radio one.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 18 16:15:39 2009, in response to No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 11:32:05 2009.

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That has been suggested repeatedly through the decades.

Banning food and drink is unenforceable. People will sneak them into the system anyway. Also, you'd put a major squeeze on all of the platform and mezzanine-level vendors who make money on sodas and snacks.

Its a good idea but unworkable. The best you can hope for is that people will throw away their litter properly.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 18 16:23:08 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 18 16:15:39 2009.

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Banning food and drink is unenforceable. People will sneak them into the system anyway.

Nah. People are also going to steal anyway, but that doesn't mean that we should legalize stealing. If eating and drinking on the subway were made illegal and people were fined, most people would stop doing it most of the time. Most people would also be irritated by the new requirement. If anything they should make a rule that drinks must be covered and that no hot foods should be consumed.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 16:23:45 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:17:40 2009.

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I agree, but sadly you can't really educate the riding public. Some will listen, but most won't

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 16:24:19 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:26:29 2009.

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Because I didn't see the other posts first.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Nov 18 16:26:13 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 18 16:04:12 2009.

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Look again:



The sign prohibits smoking, littering, and radio playing. (This photo shows someone's clever modifications to the "no littering" graphic, but the signs nonetheless do not prohibit eating.)

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by bmtlines on Wed Nov 18 17:11:03 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 18 16:23:08 2009.

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The rule about drinks is already in place. All liquid containers must be covered.

The problem in the NY Subway is that food and drink is sold inside the stations. People won't buy it if they can't consume it. I only buy soda or water at those vendors if I need something to drink at the moment and can consume it immediately. I would never buy something there with the intention of bringing it home - if that is the case I would just go to one of the many news-stands or delis after getting off the train - they are cheaper!

So if the MTA banned eating and drinking those vendors may no longer have the business that makes it worthwhile to bid for those "shops".



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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:18:47 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Nov 18 16:26:13 2009.

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Thanks. This has come up so many times that it should be added to the FAQ that we always talk about but no one ever makes...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:19:57 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 16:23:45 2009.

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I disagree. You totally can educate them, especially with something so simple.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:20:12 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 16:24:19 2009.

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Why not?

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 17:49:04 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:48:32 2009.

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The man isnt lying Terrapin he wasnt aware plain and simple...

IM aware that there isn't rule against eatign in the system..

What is this nonsense with you saying people lie if they dont know??

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 17:51:47 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:19:57 2009.

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Think so?

Ride the J train on the Weekends then get back to me...

You can try to educate them...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:58:10 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 17:49:04 2009.

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huh? how could he not know that a rule doesn't exist?????? he posted that a rule DOES EXIST! in order for it to exist, he'd have to see it written somewhere. and since he obviously couldn't have seen it written anywhere, since it doesn't exist, he lied. if you knowingly make a post about something you obviously have no clue about, or something you SHOULD have a clue about but simply failed to do the minimally required amount of research and/or verification, then you are lying through gross negligence.

For example, after he posted that there were laws against eating, I went to the NYCT rules webpage to verify that he was wrong and I was right, even though I was 99.9999999999999999999999999% sure of myself. But the minimally required amount of research/verification needed to prevent the dissemination of false information was to check the website, and I did. That's how you prevent posting lies, and prevent yourself from looking really stupid.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:58:41 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 17:51:47 2009.

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huh?????

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:04:20 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:58:10 2009.

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Did you read the other post he made regarding the signs??

He wasn't aware but why is he lying??

He made a mistake relax and take a chill pill...





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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:06:55 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 17:58:41 2009.

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Regarding educating the public on the fines since the MTA dont get any monies from them..

You can "try" to educate them...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:07:18 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:04:20 2009.

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didn't you read what you already replied to?

No, there is no rule about eating in the system. I'm really surprised that you would post a lie about the rules when we've made it so clear in photography discussions how important it is for employees to know the rules of their own system.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:08:22 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:06:55 2009.

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yes, and I'm sure i could.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:12:07 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:07:18 2009.

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Dont get into parrot mode,its childish..

I said the man made a mistake leave it alone and get off your high horse please..

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:12:55 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:08:22 2009.

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yes, and I'm sure i could.

If you could why dont you try?


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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:15:54 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:12:07 2009.

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And I'm commenting on the "mistake". If you want to discuss how what he just did is no different from what all the other NYCT employees do when they claim that there is a rule against photography, then by all means go ahead.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:18:04 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:12:55 2009.

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because i don't have the resources, duh. unbelievable. if i was nyct PR, and i had the required approvals from all levels of mta management, then I certainly would educate them.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:19:46 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:15:54 2009.

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And I'm commenting on the "mistake".

Yup you continue to comment on it...

See what i mean?

I already said he made a mistake right?

If you want to discuss how what he just did is no different from what all the other NYCT employees do when they claim that there is a rule against photography, then by all means go ahead.

I have commented on that as times when the situation arrives as well so if you paid attention you would know this.








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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:21:51 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:19:46 2009.

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No, you have not commented on that.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:22:38 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:18:04 2009.

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because i don't have the resources, duh. unbelievable

Pay attention please i said IF you could whould you try..

Unbelievable....

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:23:17 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:21:51 2009.

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Yes i have..

I dont post lies here...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:30:52 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:22:38 2009.

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Um, no. I accurately responded to what you wrote. I explained why I could not try if I could educate them.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:31:37 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:23:17 2009.

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No you have not, and yes you do post lies here. No where in this thread have you addressed what we are talking about.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:34:48 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:30:52 2009.

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I explained why I could not try if I could educate them.

I did not ask that question for said answer you gave..

If i asked you why cant you do it then said answer is warrented.

Please stop it with the word games its silly and childish..

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Not too hard didnt we go over this exercise some time ago?

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:36:38 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:31:37 2009.

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No you have not, and yes you do post lies here

Put up or shut up please..

No where in this thread have you addressed what we are talking about
More word games..

How sad...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:37:24 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:34:48 2009.

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No, I answered your question exactly. Maybe you wrote something different from what you meant? If that's the case, apologize, and rewrite it.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:37:58 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:34:48 2009.

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I explained why I could not try if I could educate them.

I did not ask that question for said answer you gave..

If i asked you why cant you do it then said answer is warrented.

Please stop it with the word games its silly and childish..

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Not too hard didnt we go over this exercise some time ago?

There thats better...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:38:53 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:37:24 2009.

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No you did not..

Maybe you need to go back and read what you wrote.



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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:39:16 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:36:38 2009.

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Nope. I said to comment on something, and you said you did, when that's impossible, since I had just posed the question for the first time. So you lied. And you never commented on what I asked you to.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:43:20 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:38:53 2009.

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Yes I did. I know what I wrote.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:45:31 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:39:16 2009.

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I said to comment on something, and you said you did, when that's impossible, since I had just posed the question for the first time

You are really batting 1.000% tonight young man i give you that..

One sec...

You said this..

If you want to discuss how what he just did is no different from what all the other NYCT employees do when they claim that there is a rule against photography, then by all means go ahead.

I said this...


I have commented on that as times when the situation arrives as well so if you paid attention you would know this.

Now i have Not in this thread though you know this please you are starting to stink at words games and i dont post lies here...

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:46:52 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:45:31 2009.

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Huh? The situation only arrived IN THIS THREAD! So how could you have discussed it previously????

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:48:09 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:43:20 2009.

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No you dont or you wouldnt have responded in that way..

We can go all night going back and forth with thsi disscussion you know its not a problem on my end or you can just not comment any more and leave it be before this thread gets reefed as well.

Not from any doing on our part of coruse..

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:50:10 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:46:52 2009.

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Im not talking about eating im tlaking about the point you made reagrding how some of these RTO people dont know the rules when it comes to picture taking which you brought up not me..

Please Dont yell young man its not polite...

We are both adults here.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:51:11 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:48:09 2009.

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Yes I did. I answered your exact question, as written.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:52:21 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:50:10 2009.

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That's not the point I made! I made a specific point and asked you to comment on it! If you want to comment on SOMETHING ELSE then that's all well and good, but don't claim you are commenting on what I asked you to comment on!

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:52:53 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:51:11 2009.

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No you did not.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:54:49 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:52:21 2009.

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You are yelling again..

I wont disscuss this if you continue to act childish...

So whats its gonna be?

Act like an 11 year old and get treated as such?

Or calm yourself down so can continue the disscussion?



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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:56:10 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:54:49 2009.

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LOL! Can't give me a straight answer!

Fact: You did not comment on what I asked you to comment on.

Fact: You claimed that you did.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:56:31 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:52:53 2009.

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Yes I certainly did.

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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 18 18:58:11 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:56:10 2009.

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No i didnt say that dont pat yourself on the back keep up please you seem to "read" only what you want to read in peoples posts as well but thats for another time...

So are you going to act like and adult?

Not too ahrd right?

Yes or no will do..

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