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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 11 08:48:22 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 10 22:41:05 2009. Just wait the bitching Liu is going to do when all the closures come due to installation of CBTC (Catch Bus To Corona) on the 7 line, city wide office not withstanding. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 11 08:50:44 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 10 20:52:05 2009. As for your second paragraph, in those days they gave out overtime like water, the motormen were hungry for it unlike today, and there was no such thing as a budget. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 11 09:04:45 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Oct 11 01:14:52 2009. They just seperated GE cars (2/4/5) from the Westinghouse cars (1/3/6) on the "mainline". Even for awhile, they did the same thing on the 7, except that the GE cars had to have 1 Westinghouse car which all the singles were although IIRC they did convert 9337(?) to a GE. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 11 09:12:35 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 10 22:09:29 2009. Set aside for the museum, correct? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 11 15:44:35 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 11 08:50:44 2009. Oh yeah ... even as a rook, I *loved* those phat checks ... need this POS at 207? Me-me-me-me! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 11 15:45:40 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 11 08:48:22 2009. He'll be too busy flapping his arms about why that redbird out on the lawn isn't rolling. :) |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:27:12 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 10 20:07:58 2009. 6239 wasn't the only TA car with A/C. There were 10 R-17s with A/C (I don't recall their numbers) which also had hard fiberglass seats in the same red color as the conventional leatherette seats but which were scooped out like R-62 seats. The A/C didn't work well on those cars either and it was removed and replace by fans from the Trane Co. which were similar to but slightly different from the conventional axiflow fans on the other cars. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:29:01 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 10 21:34:10 2009. I don't have anecdotal evidence. I have actual operating experience. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:37:27 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 10 21:36:15 2009. Regardless of what he wants, then he will either have to be satisfied with the R-62As or else explain why his constituents are being crammed into 10 car trains of the "new" cars since at the present time without additional B or C cars for either the R-142s or 142As 11 car consists of either type cannot be operated. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 11 20:00:43 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:37:27 2009. Heh. I know ... but politicos really believe that rocks can float with the proper legal language. :) |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Oct 11 20:01:19 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:29:01 2009. That's anecdotal since there is no proof that the cars were ever assigned to the line - just operated there, perhaps. Much like the R-68 that ran on the Queens Blvd line for a month or so, it was there but never assigned to the line. However, the point is unimportant enough that if you still insist, I will stand corrected. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 11 20:13:28 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Oct 11 20:01:19 2009. FWIW, cars are not assigned to lines, they're assigned to yards ... since we're keeping score and all. :) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Oct 11 20:18:11 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 11 08:48:22 2009. Oh yeah, i'm expecting it. |
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Posted by David on Sun Oct 11 20:30:48 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:27:12 2009. The R-17s with air conditioning were 6800-6809. The original air conditioners were replaced first by more powerful ones, then by fans when the new AC didn't work well either.David |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Oct 11 20:42:26 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Oct 11 20:01:19 2009. You cats can harp at the moon for all I care...I know what I saw..rode several times..case is done. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Oct 11 20:52:18 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by David on Sun Oct 11 20:30:48 2009. well,if you don't WANT something to work...but have to make an PUBLIC EFFORT to SHOW THAT YOU ARE AT LEAST TRYING TO HELP THE RIDING PUBLIC...you do what you can...which wasn't much.Too bad HUDSON/MANHATTAN RAILROAD didn't feel the same..we rode their trains showing that subways cars are MORE THAN MOVING CATTLE CARS. Guess that "chief car designer" the TA had on payroll was more than a stick in the mudd. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 11 22:21:15 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Oct 11 20:01:19 2009. I can't believe that this thread is still going on |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun Oct 11 22:51:08 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 10 17:07:09 2009. I beleive the door tones on the PA1/PA2/PA3s were added when they overhauled by MK in 1987, and they were not originally delilvered with chimes. Why the R26-42s did not receive door chimes when rebuilt is another question. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 11 23:09:43 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by R42 4787 on Sun Oct 11 22:51:08 2009. Yeah, but the"PATH chorus" is still highly amusing. :) |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Mon Oct 12 01:00:15 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 11 22:21:15 2009. Me neither |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Oct 12 08:20:44 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 10 17:07:09 2009. I had a train yesterday where if the conductor bonged the close circuit 3 times each zone it sounded like Beethoven's Fifth starting off. |
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Posted by mci guy on Mon Oct 12 09:46:35 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:27:12 2009. nothing stops a trane/train. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Oct 12 10:16:22 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 11 19:27:12 2009. I didn't realize those fans were motored from another company. I do remember the grills were different and only have a picture sample of one of them in film format so I cant do much to share that now but like was stated the first ten 6800s had them and were assigned to Pelham when retired |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 12 14:40:14 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Oct 12 08:20:44 2009. Heh. Ya gotta record that sometime ... I've always been amused by the way PATH's bells go off, especially on 6th avenue where the walls enhance the echo. :)I genuinely got a kick out of hearing it ... |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 12 16:12:31 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Oct 12 10:16:22 2009. I seem to recall that some either R-33s or 36s also had Trane fans similar to the retrofits on those 10 R-17s. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 12 16:19:23 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Oct 11 20:01:19 2009. Actually there certainly is proof, since when the R-42s and 44s were delivered each group,of cars was limited to a small number of routes. The cars on the A, AA and B lines only had signs for those lines. The R-40Ms and 42s that were assigned to the EE, GG and N Lines only had signs for those lines etc. Therefore of the r-42s on the A line had the proper signs, then its obvious that they were assigned to that line. By the way when the R-16s were new, 50 of them (I believe 6300 - 6349) were assigned to the A Line and remained there till at least 1958 to make up for the R-10s that were temporarily assigned to the BMT Eastern Division. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 12 17:36:24 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 12 16:19:23 2009. Futzing with roll signs, charging a train and moving it doesn't compensate for the paper railroad. If the car desk says that train didn't exist, then by gum, it was a flat being pushed by a diesel. Some departments used pens on their gap sheets. :) |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Tue Oct 13 15:27:46 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 12 16:12:31 2009. These were a handful of R33 WFs. 9318 is one of them. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 13 16:25:46 2009, in response to Re: R-160 Option III Order, posted by R42 4787 on Tue Oct 13 15:27:46 2009. Thanks. I thought that those were the cars but I wasn't really sure. |
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