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Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 10:11:47 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 09:51:43 2009. smdb?? If the c/r did that and they get hurt from the sudden stop, guess what? the idiots sue (most likely will win) and the c/r may have gotten in trouble, since they will ask this question (maybe): "If you knew you had people on the back car of the train surfing, and you knew that pulling the cord will cause the train to stop suddenly with a jerk, didn't you think they'd get hurt?" Better option, call the cops and don't move when at the next stop. IMHO |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 11:03:39 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 10:11:47 2009. LION thought of this.If train is doing 30 mph, then they are moving at 30 mph. If the C/R pulls the cord, the train slows to 0, dewds on the back will continue to move at 30 mph, ergo they will be pinned to the rear of the train until it comes to a full stop. So they might not fall off. Too bad. ROAR |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 23 11:20:26 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 11:03:39 2009. "So they might not fall off. Too bad."Unusual statement for a member of the clergy to say. Sure hope you didn't mean it.
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 12:21:55 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 23 11:20:26 2009. Yup... LION was being playful.ROAR |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Sep 23 12:27:27 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 11:03:39 2009. They might not fall off. But they might drop their cameras. |
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Posted by Brighton Private on Wed Sep 23 13:12:40 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 22 18:12:24 2009. That mention of the open rear vestibule sparked a memory.I couldn't have been more than six years old -- around 1960 -- and my grandmother took me for my first ride on the LIRR to Albertson to visit cousins. We changed from the Brooklyn train at Jamaica and boarded the last car of a diesel train, into a vestibule that was open at the back. I instantly sensed this would be a lot more interesting than my usual subway rides, I distinctly remember asking my grandmother if we could ride back there. Of course, the answer was no. |
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Posted by f179dj on Wed Sep 23 13:55:15 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 23 11:20:26 2009. Lion used to moonlight as an EMT (maybe still does, we're all advancing in years here). One (or two) less jobs for him if they do not fall off and get injured. So, in a way, he is thankful they survived; but he is sorry that the EMTs don't have work. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 14:11:36 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 11:03:39 2009. Ahh forgot my physics. The force will do that. I stand corrected but still think they may have been hurt so I still think better to stop & stay |
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Posted by davesgcr on Wed Sep 23 15:16:46 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 14:11:36 2009. Shouldent someone get Youtube to take it down - enough issues with train surfing as it is ! |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Sep 23 15:23:41 2009, in response to Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 22 15:09:25 2009. Well, that's ONE way to get a RFW video! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Sep 23 15:42:33 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Sep 23 15:23:41 2009. Just as long as it's not their last way to get a video. Heh! |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 16:35:58 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by davesgcr on Wed Sep 23 15:16:46 2009. They won't if it isn't against their terms of service. Now, if enough people report it maybe they will, there is a way to reeport it and a space to write a reason, IIRC |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Wed Sep 23 17:08:13 2009, in response to Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 22 15:09:25 2009. And if NYPD was there, AUTOMATIC ARREST! |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 18:16:31 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Neil Feldman on Wed Sep 23 17:08:13 2009. They should have been there. They were probably busting a railfan for photography instead. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 18:17:53 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 18:16:31 2009. You really expect cops to be present on every platform? WADR, get real. :-) |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 18:21:40 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 18:17:53 2009. I didn't say that, just meant that they should have been there in like a chance spotting. I am not saying on all platforms. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 21:53:17 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by f179dj on Wed Sep 23 13:55:15 2009. LION retired from the EMT business after 20 years of service. Got a Years pass to the zoo as a gift for 20 years of service. At least I got hundreds of pictures of the Lions and Tigers out of it.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 22:02:14 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 18:17:53 2009. No, but if enough peeps bring that video to the attention of NYPD, they can subpoena the YouTube records and arrest said individuals if they are still in the country, or else can put a hold on their pasport for future visits.ROAR |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 23 22:18:47 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 09:51:43 2009. great, another gem from one of our newest nyc subway conductors. you're saying that if you were the c/r on that train, you would have tried to intentionally injure them? |
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Posted by f179dj on Wed Sep 23 22:46:10 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 21:53:17 2009. Congratulations. Remember me at Compline; I need all the help I can get. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 23:23:35 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 23 22:02:14 2009. As I said, I doubt the NYPD would put that much effort into pursuing what's ultimately a relatively trivial matter. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 23:48:46 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by arnine on Wed Sep 23 10:11:47 2009. Actually they were train surfing. The C/R is suppsoed to pull the cord on train surfers if he/she sees them. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 23:50:39 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 23 22:18:47 2009. No but a C/R is supposed to pull the cord on train surfers and people trying to board or exit from between the cars. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 23:57:31 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 23:48:46 2009. That increases the danger of the activity considerably. Sudden deceleration could knock trainsurfers off rather easily. Wouldn't better policy be to notify the T/O to gradually slow down, and radio ahead to have the trainsurfers arrested at the next station? |
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Posted by rionOne on Thu Sep 24 00:15:28 2009, in response to Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 22 15:09:25 2009. I'm fucking speachless, OH SHIT !!!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 00:24:11 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Sep 22 23:57:05 2009. Did these boys get injured or killed from pulling this stunt? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 00:25:47 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by RAILFAN_7_40ST on Wed Sep 23 00:39:06 2009. Likely they won't be caught or looked for until they come up with other videos of them riding on other trains. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:21:00 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 23:50:39 2009. proff? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:23:08 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 00:24:11 2009. yes, one fell off the el, the other was just dragged. both were killed. |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 24 06:26:03 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Wed Sep 23 23:48:46 2009. Is that in the rulebook? I am curious that NYCT would require doing somethin that can ultimately hurt the surfers. |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 24 06:26:26 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 23:57:31 2009. I agree. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:27:50 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:23:08 2009. I had a feeling that happened.The boy holding the door looked like he was slipping. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:34:57 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:27:50 2009. it was terrible. though it didn't get any newspaper coverage. that's the real shame. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:48:25 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:34:57 2009. If there was any newspaper coverage it was likely just a tiny mention. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:50:31 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:48:25 2009. no, i'm pretty sure there was no mention at all |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:52:04 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:50:31 2009. You're probably right. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:54:07 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:52:04 2009. Wow. You fell for that one head over heels. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:58:30 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:54:07 2009. You were lying? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 07:02:20 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 06:58:30 2009. Of course I was! How in the hell would I know the story behind that photo???? I did it to prove to you that you are completely gullible and often wrong. If I didn't warn you that I tricked you, you'd have gone on passing this photo and my story to others as if they were fact. So sad. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 07:07:36 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 07:02:20 2009. And for once I thought you were attempting to talk civilly in here.I was definatly wrong about that. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Sep 24 07:39:28 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 07:07:36 2009. Douce, you don't like being toyed with? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 07:45:01 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Sep 24 07:39:28 2009. I thought he was trying to talk serious about something.At least he admitted to lying in here. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Sep 24 08:42:18 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Sep 23 23:57:31 2009. We are told in training to pull the cord during these kind of situations |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Sep 24 08:43:25 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 24 06:21:00 2009. We were told during training. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Sep 24 09:50:07 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Sep 24 07:45:01 2009. It's only a message board. Relax. Your best bet is to not respond, just observe. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 24 10:20:15 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by arnine on Thu Sep 24 06:26:03 2009. Whale...The LION thinks that it would hurt even more if they got clopped into a low clearance somewhere. And is a conductor required to know where every low clearance is? Is the T/O? LION thinks "pull the cord" is correct, and as long as that is the rule, the rule will protect the crew. If the C/R were to say "well, I thought pulling the cord would put them in greater danger" and something happens to them anyway, as it well may, then the MTA cannot stand behind their actions even if it wanted to. And in looking for outside scapegoats, the C/R made himself el primo target No. 1. Nope, you look out for number 1, you pull the cord. ROAR |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 24 11:01:04 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Sep 24 08:42:18 2009. Then I think they need to revise their trainings. They will though one day when a c/r does pull the cord the idiots get injured sues the MTA and wins.Well that is if c/r's are still around:( Also, nothing personal but if I were you recheck your training manuals/instructions to make sure you understood it right because it makes no sense they would tell crews to do that. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 24 11:09:41 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by arnine on Thu Sep 24 11:01:04 2009. It makes perfect sense.You stop the train. ROAR |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Sep 24 11:24:20 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 24 11:09:41 2009. Stopping the train in an unsafe manner is likely to put the onus on the train crew should the trainsurfer die from falling due to sudden deceleration. Should the surfer die simply from encountering a low clearance area or falling on his own accord, it's unlikely that the train crew would face any blame.By your logic, the police ought to prevent someone like Alain Robert from climbing skyscrapers by shooting him off. After all, it makes perfect sense. You get him off the building. |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 24 11:26:24 2009, in response to Re: Walk between the cars why? When you can Ride on the Back of them., posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 24 10:20:15 2009. Well IMHO it is wrong. It can injure the idiots and the crew sdhould stop the train @ the next station with tail of last car in tunnel and wait with doors closed for cops when cops get there t/o inches the tail on the last car into the station and the idiots get off with help from cops.Clearances do not matter here. There will be nothing to hit them. Train rears do not hit walls or come that close sorry. |
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