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Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!) |
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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 15 23:56:35 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Aug 14 13:45:43 2009. I don't remember what website I got this from but here is another look.
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Aug 16 02:53:57 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Aug 14 18:44:14 2009. The M-4 & 6s will still be around for a while. So the new cars will actually bring some variety to New Haven Line equipment. I wonder if the M-8 order will include any bar-cars. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 16 07:05:50 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by WillD on Sat Aug 15 23:28:01 2009. Overhead third rail was only in GCT , not in park Avenue tunnels. and was only usefull for switchers.New haven found out early that overhead third rail and diesel fuel and sparks do not mix well. and overhead third rail is useless for push pull. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 16 07:09:05 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Aug 16 02:53:57 2009. only if final order is placed.there are to be 12 Cafe cars |
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Posted by milan1834 on Sun Aug 16 10:06:17 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!), posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 15 23:56:35 2009. Nice! The sides look like the M7s, but without the taper.Alas, the Metro-North tradition of not having a car number on the front for ID freaks like me continues... |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 16 10:18:50 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!), posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 15 23:56:35 2009. I am not fond of the front of the car, but the sides look ok to me, mostly like the M7A's. But, again the front needs to go! |
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Posted by ebtmikado on Sun Aug 16 10:19:50 2009, in response to Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?, posted by milan1834 on Fri Aug 14 13:22:02 2009. As Fred G. mentioned earlier, I like to looks of the M-8.Ever since seeing the first preliminary design options, while at a meeting of the Connecticut Commuter Council, I favored that look. It is reminiscent of the BMT Bluebirds. Lee |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Aug 16 10:48:07 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by 9 local on Fri Aug 14 20:30:36 2009. The only similarity I find is the coloring of the front. Anyway, they are about to be replaced by these.
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Aug 16 11:09:15 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 15 12:22:07 2009. They'll all get a non-Siemens new propulsion system on their overhaul so you have four to five years left to listen to them in person. |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 16 20:28:23 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 16 07:05:50 2009. New haven found out early that overhead third rail and diesel fuel and sparks do not mix well.Sounds like the diesels will have to go. No great loss, never should have been there to begin with. and overhead third rail is useless for push pull. Sure, cause there have been absolutely no improvements to the technology since 1904. The possibility of mounting a sensor and some sort of activation system to obviate the need for the engineer to ascertain his train's position relative to the gap and the overhead third rail is completely out of the question. No wait, that's exactly what the RWE's coal lines outside Köln do with their overhead lines and the supplementary power from the side when the locomotives are under the coal loading chutes. The trains can (but rarely do) operate pull-pull with continuous power and no action on the part of the engineer to raise of lower pantographs upon entering the loading area.  No reason the same system, more than a decade old at this point, could not be used by a multivoltage locomotive in conjunction with overhead third rail to provide push-pull service into and out of NYP without fear of gapping out. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 16 22:32:01 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by WillD on Sun Aug 16 20:28:23 2009. No reason the same system, more than a decade old at this point, could not be used by a multivoltage locomotive in conjunction with overhead third rail to provide push-pull service into and out of NYP without fear of gapping outSure there is a reason. It's something the MTA would never spend money on. Never mind the fact that they ought to just have taken advantage of the extant loops at GCT. (Although considering the things they do spend money on, it's a wonder they don't rebuild the tunnels for catenary clearance anyhow, assuming it to be necessary.) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 17 12:28:41 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!), posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 15 23:56:35 2009. Don't they understand that that flat, squared off front end is less aerodynamic and will require more power to maintain speed than if it had an M1/M3 style end? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 17 12:42:11 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 17 12:28:41 2009. No, Chris, they never thought of that. Your sound theory must be reported to them at once. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Aug 17 12:53:25 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 17 12:28:41 2009. actually the loss of aerodynamic styling, will be a negative at front end but will help the fuel use at point were cars are coupled. the bigger gap the more air disturbance. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 17 14:06:44 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Another Photo!), posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Aug 17 12:53:25 2009. Interesting. Thanks for the info. |
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Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Better?) |
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Posted by Bill West on Tue Aug 18 00:52:22 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Photos), posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Aug 14 13:45:43 2009. The EP-5 colours look great now it just needs a PA-1/FA-1 nose. It would only take a revision of the fibreglass(?) moulding before they crank out the rest of the order and the looks would sharpen up greatly. Right now it’s a mix of 30’s headlight surround and modern body end. Horizontal lights would be better too but that involves a few more bits. Another subtlety would be to use red in the Scotchlite tapes, for that matter they’re hardly needed on a crossingless line.M8  FA-1, nose a bit big and photo shine too strong in the nose curves but best pict I could find  Bill |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 18 01:46:37 2009, in response to Re: Any word on the arrival of the first M8s?(Better?), posted by Bill West on Tue Aug 18 00:52:22 2009. Yuck. McGinnis colors don't look good on anything. ConnDOT won't use these colors though, even though the pigments are cheaper: |
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