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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 11 08:42:18 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 08:33:14 2009.

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Mark S. Feinman's articles about the TA in the 70's and 80's are amongst the best things I've read in my life. I even read the 80's one in one sitting.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 11 09:19:26 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 19:50:53 2009.

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That is too funny. Talk about trying to pass the buck.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Feb 11 09:22:52 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 19:55:47 2009.

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LOL let's send a TEAM of investigators to the site, label it a crime scene, and have all trains bypass the station (or better reroute the G up 6th Ave) until we can find a solution.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 09:50:09 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 23:58:22 2009.

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There had also been an arrow that had taken two or three tiles. You know that when you look at the signs in other parts of the station.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 09:53:53 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 23:59:49 2009.

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Considering how long it took to correct the tiles at Elmhurst Av, it's not that easy of a job to correct.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 09:58:09 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 23:59:49 2009.

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It's very annoying what they choose to air on TV. Even the way they introduced the story is annoying. I never realized that Broadway in Williamsburg is called "The Great White Way".

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 10:00:24 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Feb 11 09:22:52 2009.

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Better yet, make it an episode of CSI NY.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 11:08:57 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 05:25:31 2009.

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The article should.
But someone wants to imply it's MTA's fault something built by NYC and BoT was never fixed.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 11:24:09 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 06:38:30 2009.

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Turkey admits something happened years ago.
But does not want to be held responsible for another goverment's actions.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 11:29:31 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Feb 11 09:22:52 2009.

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There was one time something happened in Brooklyn and G trains were reroutrd via 6 Avenue. I was working at 23 Street. No one wanted to get on a G train going to Queens because it wasn't the F! And this happened during rush hour!

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 11:30:06 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 09:50:09 2009.

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Likely.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:30:15 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 08:30:06 2009.

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Dunno...But I know whot THAT means, thanks to P.Rosa. 8-)

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:30:54 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 08:31:26 2009.

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My point exactly

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Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:33:59 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 11 08:42:18 2009.

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Mark Feinmans articles are ALWAYS top notch. He lives up to his name, always.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:34:51 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Feb 11 08:38:15 2009.

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a distinct possibility. 8-)

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Re: After 73 years, GOTHAMIST finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:39:19 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Feb 11 09:22:52 2009.

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No doubt.

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Re: After 73 years, NY GOTHAMIST finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:40:16 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 10:00:24 2009.

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Nah, they film/tape in CA.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 11 12:12:52 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 07:37:36 2009.

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Take any homeland security course. Theyre painfully full of them. (ICS/NIMS stuff)

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Feb 11 12:14:43 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 11:29:31 2009.

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>>There was one time something happened in Brooklyn and G trains were reroutrd via 6 Avenue. I was working at 23 Street. No one wanted to get on a G train going to Queens because it wasn't the F! And this happened during rush hour!<<

I can vouch that story in a similar fashion, when in 1984, I recall riding a rerouted "GG" train of R-10's during the PM rush hour going uptown via 6th Avenue. I rode that train, which ran in the normal way between Smith-9th Street (where I had got on) and Bergen Street, then over to Queens Plaza (where I had left) along the "F" route's tracks.

Just like in your message, the R-10 "GG" train had few passengers while operating in Manhattan, and also very few passengers would get on because they wanted the "F" too. Now, I wonder what happens today when Court Square-bound R-46 "G" trains cannot go up the Crosstown Line...rerouted again on 6th Avenue as far as Queens Plaza only???

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["B'klyn-Queens Lcl."]



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Re: After 73 years, NY GOTHAMIST finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 12:16:46 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY GOTHAMIST finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:40:16 2009.

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On one episode, they mentioned a pool hall on my street which is a long one. But when they showed the GPS location of the pool hall, they zoomed in on my house or one or two houses away. (The entire block is residential.) I got a kick out of that.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 12:24:50 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Feb 11 12:14:43 2009.

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Once they are rerouted up 6th Ave, the G's don't have to end at Queens Plaza, they can run as an F or whatever. Only problem of course is it would cause an equipment shortage on the G's opposite direction.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 11 12:28:36 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 12:24:50 2009.

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a 4 car F would have interesting effects, to say the least...

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 13:01:19 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Feb 11 12:14:43 2009.

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I wonder what happens today when Court Square-bound R-46 "G" trains cannot go up the Crosstown Line...rerouted again on 6th Avenue as far as Queens Plaza only???

I would think the G train would go OOS at Queens Plaza, Run light to 5 track between Queens Plaza and 36 Street, change ends, go back into service at Queens Plaza and either go back to Smith-9th via regular route or via 6th Avenue.

I was going to say G trains would run light to 179 Street to turn if service is congested. Then again G service doesn't run that often during rush hour anyway to cause congestion.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 13:02:33 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 11 12:28:36 2009.

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True, but no different than when the G is redirected onto 6th Ave to begin with.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 13:06:33 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 09:58:09 2009.

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LOL!!! I think it would also suprise a lot of people in Bushwick and Williamsburg to think they live along Broadway, the "Great White Way"......

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 13:08:08 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 11 12:28:36 2009.

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In a pinch F trains could be rerouted crosstown.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:26:54 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Feb 10 14:02:01 2009.

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I'm glad they left it alone for historical significance.

Now where is Indian Street? :)

--Mark

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:29:53 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 07:37:36 2009.

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KNA! (Know Your Audience)

--Mark

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:30:05 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 07:37:36 2009.

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KYA! (Know Your Audience)

--Mark

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Re: Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY)

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:31:37 2009, in response to Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:33:59 2009.

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Oooooh, thank you!! Thank you all! (down, ego, DOWN DOWN!!!)

I guess I gotta get going with the "NYCTA in the 90s" RSN (uh, really soon now :)

--Mark

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Re: Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY)

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Feb 11 14:44:12 2009, in response to Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 11:33:59 2009.

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1000 percent agreed.

Most engrossing transit articles I have read. . .THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING (LOL)

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 11 15:28:06 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 13:06:33 2009.

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I think it would also suprise a lot of people in Bushwick and Williamsburg to think they live along Broadway, the "Great White Way"......

Well, it's becoming that way...

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 11 15:41:33 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 07:37:36 2009.

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Or worse still, sentences full of unexplained acronyms.

Or letters written out phonetically. Better yet, acronyms written out phonetically! It's the Mary Tango Alpha's fault.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by randyo on Wed Feb 11 17:30:47 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 20:46:21 2009.

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Some of the queens IND statins have other oddities some of them related to proposed branches of the Qns Blvd Line to Rockaway from the Winfield Cutoff and Whitpot Jct. Although it may have been removed by now, there was a mosiac sign near the N/E stariway to the N/B platform at 65 St which read, upon extremely careful scrutiny, "Trains to Jamaica and Rockaway" with the words "and Rockaway" painted out. If you looked at the tiles from the appropriate angle you could see the out line of the words "and Rockaway" under the paint. I have heard that some of the other Qns IND stations have similar signs but 65 st was the only one I have seen personally. I don't know about the other stations along the IND Fulton St Line but the original signs at Euclid and Grant read "To Lefferts Ave and the Rockaways" and the word "Ave" was replaced in a different typeface with the word "Blvd." Lefferts Blvd was called Lefferts Ave for many years and that is what the station sign and train destination signs read. Nobody who lived in that neighborhood could tell me when the change from Ave to Blvd was made, but it was probably some time during the construction of the IND connection to the Fulton St El considering how the info signs were initially painted. Lefferts wasn't the only avenue in Queens to be upgraded to a boulevard. Ditmars Blvd , Astoria Blvd and Junction Blvd were all originally avenues and were upgraded for some reason.

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Re: Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY)

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 18:15:22 2009, in response to Re: Mark Feinmans Articles (WAS: After A Long time, NY News discovers BRODAWAY), posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:31:37 2009.

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And then the second part of early Brooklyn...

Mark, if you're not already writing for a specialist publication, you should really send out a bunch of speculative applications. You have a real gift for this kind of thing.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 18:30:30 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 11 15:41:33 2009.

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Or letters written out phonetically. Better yet, acronyms written out phonetically! It's the Mary Tango Alpha's fault.

Oi! I posted a new phonetic alphabet recently over on OTChat! So it's the Mnemonic Tsar Aisle's fault.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 18:31:11 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 11 12:12:52 2009.

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Homeland Security = Government Waste.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 18:35:40 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by randyo on Wed Feb 11 17:30:47 2009.

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Nobody who lived in that neighborhood could tell me when the change from Ave to Blvd was made, but it was probably some time during the construction of the IND connection to the Fulton St El considering how the info signs were initially painted.

That was back in 1915. After the Queens numbering system was set up, The city spent the 15-20 years with dual names of their streets before they started enforcing the new names. The IRT and BMT never changed the names of their stations in Queens. That's why there are stations called Fisk, Alburtis, Hudson, Greenwood and so on.

Streets run north and south. Avenues run east and west.

there was a mosiac sign near the N/E stariway to the N/B platform at 65 St which read, upon extremely careful scrutiny, "Trains to Jamaica and Rockaway" with the words "and Rockaway" painted out.

Pictures of that sign has been shown in here before "To Rockaway" was painted out. I think now a metal sign has been put up covering the mosiac sign. That pic has been shown in here as well.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 18:36:31 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:26:54 2009.

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Inwood?

Looked at map: No, that seems to be Indian ROAD.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Feb 11 18:38:47 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 18:36:31 2009.

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No Greenpoint.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 19:05:36 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by randyo on Wed Feb 11 17:30:47 2009.

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Northern Boulevard used to be Jackson Avenue.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 19:09:00 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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Has anyone realized that this thread is titled wrong? It should either read "Broadway G" or Brodaway G". Nowhere is there a "Broadaway G."

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 11 23:13:05 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 19:09:00 2009.

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At the very least, I know myself and SUBWAYSURF did realize such.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 23:25:40 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 11 19:09:00 2009.

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Oh snap, I just noticed that the title was wrong. It's Brodaway, not Broadaway.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 23:28:10 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 11 15:28:06 2009.

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This is true.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Feb 12 08:02:23 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:30:05 2009.

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Our 50,000-watt blowtorch station in Denver, KOA, likes to say its call letters stand for Know Our Audience.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Feb 12 08:13:43 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 11 15:41:33 2009.

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Shouldn't that be Mike Tango Alpha?

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Feb 12 08:36:30 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 11 14:30:05 2009.

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KYA were the legendary call letters for the San Francisco radio station best known on the AM dial in the 1950's and 1960's with a Top 40 format (where the late Tom Donohue was once a DJ there), and on the FM dial in the 1980's playing oldies (with Celeste Perry doing the PM drive time shift). Now, oldies can heard in San Francisco on another revived version of KFRC, but on the AM dial 1550 with a 24/7 syndicated format programmed by Scott Shannon.

-William A. Padron
["Bay Area Radio"]


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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Feb 12 09:27:09 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 23:25:40 2009.

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At least it didn't take you 73 years .

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kawasakir142 on Thu Feb 12 19:36:28 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Feb 10 08:57:56 2009.

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Yes blame the ppl who built the IND.

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