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Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 8 11:42:10 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 8 11:14:29 2009. I have no idea either. They are creating a huge reef in the middle of the ocean and I have no clue whether or not this will any chain effect in other places. We humans have a long history of not thinking these things all the way through when we try and manipulate local ecosystems/environments. We're not talking one rail car or a few tires. We're talking over a thousand subway cars.And those tires are a good example. I don't think that tires are used anymore because they do more harm than good. From wiki: This project (Osborne Reef) is not the only one of its nature to fail; Indonesia and Malaysia mounted enormous tire-reef programs in the 1980s and are now seeing the ramifications of the failure of tire reefs, from littered beaches to reef destruction.[4] Jack Sobel, The Ocean Conservancy's director of strategic conservation said in a 2002 interview that "I don't know of any cases where there's been a success with tire reefs." That year, The Ocean Conservancy's International Coastal Cleanup removed 11,956 tires from beaches all over the world.[3] |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 8 12:25:17 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by JohnL on Sat Feb 7 21:58:43 2009. I saw the website.Not everything they do is bogus. For example, there's nothing wrong with educating people not to dump their motor oil in the storm drain or pestering municipalities to upgrades sewage treatment plants so overflows don't occur as frequently. And certainly organizing people to pull debris out of streams is worthwhile (I've done that at Oakland Lake in Bayside). But if they're bellyaching about reefed subway cars, they're misdirected at the very least. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 8 13:45:14 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 8 11:42:10 2009. I don't necessarily agree the tires are the best reef (although they did completely increase fish life in the areas where they are). The problem with tires is that they don't disintergrate, so yes, I can see a problem, especially if the reef begins to dislodge, and random tires float away.As for metal subway cars, they do disappear - eventually, and so long as the chemicals like oil, etc are removed, there aren't long term effects. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 8 15:45:13 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 7 19:45:33 2009. i was in a anti drug civilian corelol |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 8 15:46:22 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 7 17:35:39 2009. actually i am not a expert but i prefer the recycle the metal methodto reefing i am against polluting the ocean hope that helps lol |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun Feb 8 18:25:07 2009, in response to New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by heypaul on Fri Feb 6 18:05:49 2009. Today's (2/8) Star Ledger story.It seems to be only a problem on the stainless cars and not the R36s (although the K-cars have been in much worse shape). Note references to "signifcant damage" and "collapse". Even the Redbirds as mentioned still are as good as sunk. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sun Feb 8 19:35:32 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by Gerry6309 on Sat Feb 7 09:42:48 2009. they can always make them a casino for deep sea diving gamblers. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 8 21:33:13 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Feb 7 21:42:28 2009. I understand what you and John have said, but there are photos of some of the cars that landed upside down on nycsubway.org, and those are the ones that are flat for whatever reason. |
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Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Feb 8 22:03:31 2009, in response to Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 8 03:21:57 2009. My public high school required 4 years of math and 4 years of science.Then again, it wasnt your average NYC public school... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Feb 8 22:08:47 2009, in response to Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 8 03:21:57 2009. In the late eighties thats the way it was in my high school. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 8 22:14:39 2009, in response to Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word, posted by R30A on Sun Feb 8 22:03:31 2009. Agreed.If it were up to you, how many years of math and science (and what combination of physical/biological science) would you require? Assume a 4 year high school. |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Sun Feb 8 22:30:30 2009, in response to Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 8 03:21:57 2009. New YORK STATE now requires 1 year of integrated algebra and 1 year of geometry for graduationThis is beyond what many lower functioning can handle. We need vocational training for many students as a way to get people into productive lifes. Most of the 1st year high school work is now done in middle school. |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Feb 8 23:41:53 2009, in response to Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 8 22:14:39 2009. Well- I cant say that I am not a bit biased, but I think that Math and Science should be mandatory for all years of high school, much like english and history are(at least, I think they are.)I take issue with any attempt to consider such subjects as lesser requirements. But then again... this comes from someone who has always been fairly science heavy in my education. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Feb 8 23:50:57 2009, in response to New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by heypaul on Fri Feb 6 18:05:49 2009. Is it too late to take them back? ;-) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 9 00:58:49 2009, in response to Re: RonInBayside will take JohnL at his word, posted by R30A on Sun Feb 8 23:41:53 2009. OK to be biased, and I would agree with your attitude toward these subjects. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Feb 9 01:22:48 2009, in response to Re: New Jersey Claims that Reefed Subway Cars Not Living Up to Expectations, posted by error46146 on Sat Feb 7 09:26:12 2009. I don't think this is about the R32's, but more the redbirds. |
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