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R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008 I was just look at Bullens on the MTA employe section of there sight and saw one very instruesting one. Here what it said in the main part of it.BULLETIN NO.: 192-08 SUBJECT: C LINE SERVICE OPERATING R40 AND R42 TYPE EQUIPMENT ONLY "Effective Monday, December 8, 2008, C Line service between 168th Street and Euclid Avenue will operate utilizing a ded,icated fleet of R40 and R42 (8-car/60 foot) type equipment only." C/R will have to change postion at each terminal so the 5 cars section will be behind the C/R. So going South it will be 3 South/5 North and North will be 3 North/5 South. Guy get you camica ready. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. What the hell does that mean for the 38's? |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 5 20:17:12 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008. What the hell does that mean for the 38's?If there were catfish in the North Atlantic, they would know. :) |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by mike cruz on Fri Dec 5 20:28:24 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 5 20:17:12 2008. this sucks................ |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Fri Dec 5 20:33:24 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008. I think they are going to sleep with the fishes....I always thought they were better cars than the R40/R42. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Dec 5 20:35:39 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. Rode a R38 on the C this eveing, can't belive that was my last 38 on the C ride. :( Well, it is going to be interesting to see R40's and 42's on the C. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 5 20:35:43 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008. 12 consists of 60 foot cars will normally be needed for A service. Since not all of the slants have migrated over from Coney Island, R-38s will be used only to supliment A service - for a while. Then it's "GLUG, GLUG, Glug" for them. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:51:03 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 5 20:17:12 2008. HA. touche |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Dec 5 20:52:53 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. So what happens with the A? Will it retain some of the 40s? It needs more than 44s to maintain its required level of service. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 5 21:17:41 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 5 20:35:43 2008. In other words, no more R-40/42s on the A anymore, right? |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 5 21:18:35 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. It'll be interesting to see if they keep the two classes segregated. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 5 21:22:36 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 5 21:17:41 2008. The C uses 18 8-car trains. That's 144 cars. After the C line is full, the rest of the R-40s can be used on the A if needed. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Dec 5 22:35:49 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008. They-r-doomed./w\ |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Dec 5 22:37:31 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Howard Fein on Fri Dec 5 20:52:53 2008. We can hope that the Slants remain as "A". Don't forget "R40" includes the Mods. And there are a few dozen 4500-series R42 spares at 207th, they might be used as well.-w- |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 5 23:06:46 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. Whats a camica? |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 5 23:28:23 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 5 23:06:46 2008. A camera made from a certain stone |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Sat Dec 6 00:29:34 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 5 23:28:23 2008. Something told me the end would be coming soon for these cars....I was taking pics of some today, and will get some last shots on sunday...... |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by El-Train on Sat Dec 6 01:14:51 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. Finally, the C runs a trainset that has a front bullet sign!!! At least for the first time in a long while!That is, except for the ONE AND ONLY TIME I rode on a re-routed R44 labeled as a C......the LCD's were all messed up too, not reading "168th St Mahtn" or whatever it'd look like. That was probably back around 2001-2003 at West 4th. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Dec 6 01:53:16 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by rtype3995 on Sat Dec 6 00:29:34 2008. Guess I might have to do some serious photography this weekend. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Dec 6 03:28:29 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 5 21:22:36 2008. Damn, so much for riding a slant over the bay.... oh well. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Sat Dec 6 07:25:03 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 5 23:28:23 2008. Would this be a camica?
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Dec 6 07:30:37 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. yup, the stripe boards are up. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Dec 6 08:33:31 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by El-Train on Sat Dec 6 01:14:51 2008. That is, except for the ONE AND ONLY TIME I rode on a re-routed R44 labeled as a C......the LCD's were all messed up too, not reading "168th St Mahtn" or whatever it'd look like. That was probably back around 2001-2003 at West 4th.Probably they needed a trainset for the (C) and there was no 60 footers available, so then voila ! |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 6 08:52:31 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Dec 6 07:30:37 2008. There up on the 6th avenue line p to York street. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 6 08:53:31 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Dec 6 07:30:37 2008. There up on the 6th avenue line up* to York street. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Dec 6 09:21:29 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by El-Train on Sat Dec 6 01:14:51 2008. I take it you never rode on an R-46 CC in 1980, then. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Dec 6 09:22:05 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 5 21:22:36 2008. Thanks. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Sat Dec 6 09:27:18 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Sat Dec 6 07:25:03 2008. oops...
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 6 11:09:37 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008. I saw a pair of 38s on the garbage train with the Redbirds (9317, etc...) around 11:45 last night, at Houston/2 Ave. Their numbers are dwindling... |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Dec 6 12:27:43 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 5 21:17:41 2008. I've always thought the Slants were most suited to express runs. The slant front itself and the noise they make might have something to do with it. Also, as a little guy, I remember them on the E and F, On Queens Blvd...which, without all the timers, is a great express run.Seeing them on the N (when it was local in Manhattan) seemed so sad, like they were just straining at the bit to get going, especially NB between Cortlandt and Canal St. At least the last of them are finishing up their careers where I feel they belong- on IND express runs. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Dec 6 12:33:39 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. " ded,icated fleet of R40"Ew. "and R42" Woo-hoo! |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 6 14:55:31 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Dec 6 09:21:29 2008. Nor the R110B, when they were on the C with six cars either. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:28:23 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by MainR3664 on Sat Dec 6 12:27:43 2008. When they were on the E and F back in the day they were fast because they were new. By the time you rode them on the N the field shunting was removed in reaction to the Willy B wreck which made their top speed slower. NYCT's philosophy seems to be if they go slower, less wear and tear. They point to other systems to get ideas. But they do this to the point to whatever suits them. Anybody here who has never made the trek to Philadelphia is missing a real treat. You get fast accelleration and good top speed on both the Market-Frankford and Broad St. lines. They put us to shame. And this dirty old man thinks the automated female announcer on the Broad St. line is one hot babe! Love to see what she looks like! |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:38:05 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Dec 5 22:37:31 2008. Based on what was done in the past on the J/Z/M/L lines, and already on the A, the 40M's will be mixed in service with the 42's. To make life easier for the yardmasters, they'll likely mix the Pitkin 42's with the 207 42's along with the 40M's and take each yard will take theirs off when inspections are due. There should be enough of these to keep them on the C with left overs to the A. but it will be up to RTO is they want the slants to be prioritized on the C or not. It's up to wherever the supers tell the yardmasters where to run them. We'll all have an idea Monday. Personally I'm hoping the slants stay on the A with the C getting the mods and 42's but it's not up to me. But I wish! |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:39:32 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 5 23:06:46 2008. It's what you use to take pictures in Jamaica Yard. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:46:56 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Dec 6 08:33:31 2008. There used to be PM rush hour gap trains staged throughout the system, maybe 10 years ago. Most of the time the R44 gap at 72nd St. middle would wind up on the A so you would never know it was, but occasionally it wound up on the C. Same thing for the R46 gap, it wound up on the B or D sometimes. Forgot where these were staged (I think one was at 57/7 in the back). |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:47:47 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Dec 6 09:21:29 2008. Most of these guys weren't born yet. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 6 16:32:42 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 5 21:18:35 2008. Well there is one mixed pair of cars which can't be split up: 4460 (R40M) and 4665 (R42). I have also seen mixed consists of R40M/R42 on the A line. It's a reminder of the 1970's and early 1980's. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Dec 6 16:36:21 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 6 14:55:31 2008. I missed out on those, I hope they'll run at least 3 of the cars on maybe the Rock Park shuttle or some museum trip. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Dec 6 16:36:40 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Grand concourse on Sat Dec 6 16:36:21 2008. ...someday. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:40:08 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by catfish 44 on Fri Dec 5 20:13:31 2008. THOSE MOFOS ARE GETTING REEFED!!!!!!! YAY! |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:42:36 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by MainR3664 on Sat Dec 6 12:27:43 2008. To me, seeing them on the A brings me back to the early 1980's when they dominated that line. Even without grafitti. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:44:20 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:28:23 2008. I've done the BSS a handful of times and I've been underwhelmed. The M-F does move, particularly through Center City. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:45:26 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 15:38:05 2008. Will all this result in more R42's in Jamaica? |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:46:29 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 5 23:06:46 2008. A harmonica which can take pics. Gives you something to do when locked up for taking pictures of trains. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:48:29 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by El-Train on Sat Dec 6 01:14:51 2008. Good point. R10's, R27's, R30's, R32's, R38's...I don't think the C has seen trains with bullets since the R46 truck fiasco 27 years ago! |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Dec 6 17:06:38 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:45:26 2008. I doubt it. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Dec 6 18:06:46 2008, in response to R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 5 20:07:42 2008. I wonder why the TA is changing their C/R position policy regarding 8 car R-40/42s. Since new C/R boards had to be installe anyhow why didn't the TA just keep the 3 south 5 north configuration on all lines? It seems to go back to the old BMT days on the steels when C/Rs operated from the rear section in both directions. By the time I started as a C/R, the TA changed operating procedure so that the C/Rs on steels operated from the south section at all times. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 6 18:17:03 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by randyo on Sat Dec 6 18:06:46 2008. There are some considerations that were in play that would not really be of interest to most here. If you want the reasons, you can e-mail me. |
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Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 6 18:48:04 2008, in response to Re: R40/R42 starting on the C on Monday., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 6 16:44:20 2008. You must not be warm blooded then. |
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