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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Oct 29 11:20:17 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 28 21:09:15 2008.

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Our beloved scholar!



Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 11:23:01 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 07:39:50 2008.

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Describe some of the "good" trains that have been reefed?

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Oct 29 11:24:58 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 11:23:01 2008.

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c'mon, You know his answer to that. Anything with a RFW.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 29 11:28:31 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by ROCKPARKMAN on Tue Oct 28 16:37:04 2008.

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That is what the confidential internal memo said.

Shouldn't a "confidential internal memo" remain confidential? I'm not defending MTA secrecy, I'm just curious to see what, if any trouble you might get into revealing that on here.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 11:29:58 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 29 09:54:38 2008.

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Brian always needs someone to fight with.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 11:32:00 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 09:38:53 2008.

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The only fraterning I've done with John is to converse with him.
Don't drag him into the arguement you're having with different people in here.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 29 11:37:43 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by error46146 on Tue Oct 28 21:05:52 2008.

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Perfectly good?

Listen, I'm gonna miss the slants...and the R42's...and to a lesser extent the R32's (the R38's can go anytime, good riddance), but I realize that 4 decades in service, the first 20 during the deferred maintenance era is ENOUGH. Nothing lasts forever.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 29 12:23:12 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by ROCKPARKMAN on Tue Oct 28 16:37:04 2008.

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NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) sensing equipment needs to be in or around a ventilation system to work properly. I imagine the probe and its associated equipment is in the car roof area, inaccessible while the car is still submerged. Also, extracting the sensor suite underwater might be an ecological issue, since there may be the hazard of accidental chemical release into the ocean.

I'm guessing the sensor suite is near (or built into) the AC units on the car(s) in question...and before anybody sics Homeland Insecurity on me, I'm just GUESSING, d*mnit...lol!

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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder)

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 29 12:25:58 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 21:22:13 2008.

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Regeneration is standard on hybrid buses in NYC and Reno. New York'sd fleet is going to be more than 800 buses...

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Oct 29 13:32:12 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by JohnL on Wed Oct 29 09:31:09 2008.

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Why hooks and a crane?
Just use airbags like when they lifted that sub.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Michael Wares on Wed Oct 29 13:39:54 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Oct 29 13:32:12 2008.

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How deep was the sub? How deep are the cars? How many other cars have to be moved before they can raise the one they want back?

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Deaks on Wed Oct 29 14:11:38 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 09:38:53 2008.

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I find it disgusting that you seem to 'fight' with more or less anyone who disagrees with you. I think if you were removed from this board, the amount of arguing and such would decrease a great deal. You, more than anyone else here, get into the greatest number of petty, stupid and immature 'fights' and arguments as you seem unable to accept any personal criticism whatsoever. In short, as said, you are a piece of shit and that's no 'unwarranted' attack, either.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 14:19:04 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Oct 29 13:32:12 2008.

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I remember hearing once they raised a ship with millions of styroform pellets.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 14:26:18 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Deaks on Wed Oct 29 14:11:38 2008.

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You might be on to something Deaks.
Recently Brian was away for about 2 weeks.
This room was quiet.

I don't know why he was gone.
Maybe it was the holidays.
Maybe he became a daddy.
Maybe Larry gave him a timeout.
Maybe he got fed up with here.
I don't know and doubt he'll say why.
Just state that we're both morans
and mounting an "unwarranted" attack on him.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Clayton on Wed Oct 29 16:31:54 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:47:34 2008.

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Why do you care so much about one's stupidity?

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 17:03:57 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 06:20:21 2008.

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You're being too kind to him.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 17:08:00 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 06:45:59 2008.

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You see, I know that this is the real reason you still hang around here. You're as big a troll as there is.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by WillD on Wed Oct 29 17:16:57 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Oct 29 13:32:12 2008.

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Airbags will only get a car to the surface, and a carbody is not exactly designed to withstand the forces the sea puts on it, so you can't very well tow it back to shore while it is submerged up to the roofline. A submarine is a wholly different animal, being designed to withstand the ocean as it is it doesn't have to ride back to shore on a barge. Since you'd need a crane there to lift the car from the surface onto the barge for the ride home you may as well have it at least assist in the lift from the bottom, perhaps working in conjunction with a lift bag system.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 29 18:52:11 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 17:08:00 2008.

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Watch it. Whineburg will start sending your friends private E-mails, telling them what a bad person you really are.

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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder)

Posted by Robert King on Wed Oct 29 19:14:39 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 22:24:07 2008.

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While I was trying to find out more about that experiment when I first heard about it several years ago, I found out that Garrett did a test subway train in New York in the 1970s with each car carrying it's own flywheel/motor generator assembly. I couldn't find the results of that experiment either.

It's funny how all these experiments are done but the results aren't published. Could they be that embarrassingly bad?

-Robert King

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 19:38:36 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 29 18:52:11 2008.

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They already know. ;-)

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 29 19:41:38 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 19:38:36 2008.

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Hey MJF you still at CTL right?

I was at the station today thought it was you in the Dispt Office wasnt in Uni so i wasnt going to go over and say hey..



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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 19:50:12 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 29 19:41:38 2008.

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Yes, I was there. You can always drop in to say hello.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 29 19:53:53 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 19:50:12 2008.

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Next time im there i will..

Also seen Ms Bond moving kinda rapid over there as well so i guess the less somebody who wasnt in uni the better it will be..

Last thing i need is her turning around as this 6'4 Blk guy is walking up right behind her not in uniform..

;o)

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 19:57:15 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 29 19:53:53 2008.

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This afternoon the folks from Employee Benefits were in the crew room. There were many current employees and retirees around the station. Their visit was advertised and lots of people were there out of uniform.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by mr_brian on Wed Oct 29 20:30:26 2008, in response to TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by ROCKPARKMAN on Tue Oct 28 16:09:45 2008.

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LOL

womp womp

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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder)

Posted by David on Wed Oct 29 20:33:19 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by Robert King on Wed Oct 29 19:14:39 2008.

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That was the experiment about which I posted. As I mentioned, the test was deemed a success, but the follow-on order never came.

David

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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 20:51:01 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by Robert King on Wed Oct 29 19:14:39 2008.

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I'm curious about the spinning refrigerators myself because it was just such a bizarre idea ... :)

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by J trainloco on Wed Oct 29 22:43:04 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 09:38:53 2008.

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This post=crossing the line.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 29 23:33:07 2008, in response to TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by ROCKPARKMAN on Tue Oct 28 16:09:45 2008.

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Wow, this is very interesting. At first I thought it was a joke, but by reading through some of the posts, this is true!
Very interesting.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 23:43:27 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by MJF on Wed Oct 29 17:03:57 2008.

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I'd get harsher on him.
But it won't matter in the long run.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Oct 30 00:14:19 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 29 09:54:38 2008.

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Not to mention he referenced MJF and Kirk indirectly as scum of the board when he responded to JohnL's fraternizing. As MJF stated, he is a POS doing little more than going after his punching bags

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 30 00:22:11 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:33:04 2008.

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Oh boy...

Dick riding already,huh?

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 30 00:23:37 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 29 14:26:18 2008.

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Or maybe he's a DICK...

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 01:23:21 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Oct 30 00:14:19 2008.

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Heh. Don't sweat me, I find it amusing when he even notices me. Always find it amusing when someone actually thinks I *care* about what they think of me. :)

I'd LOVE to see him out between a pair of arnines trying to figure out how to open the doors when the drum switch is open, or the switch is dropped on the number 1 end. Or perhaps, we can have him close the drum switch and see what happens if he didn't do a four-quadrant before doing so. Eventually he'll piss off someone who actually cares, and I want to be as far away from that "police investigation" as possible. Heh.

It was such a PEACEFUL two weeks tho'.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Oct 30 04:48:46 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Clayton on Wed Oct 29 16:31:54 2008.

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Why to deflect attention from his own stupidity, of course!

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:00:33 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 01:23:21 2008.

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I think we've ALL been wondering why it's been a PEACEFUL two weeks.
Maybe it was the holidays.
Maybe he became a daddy.
But since he returned, I doubt it was either.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:02:28 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 30 00:23:37 2008.

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That statement is an insult to all DICKS.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:05:58 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Oct 30 04:48:46 2008.

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Of course he'd deny his own stupidity!

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:16:45 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:05:58 2008.

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FALSE! But you already knew that. :)

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:17:21 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:00:33 2008.

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I was sorta hoping "Act of Larry" myself. Heh.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:33:38 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:16:45 2008.

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You're RIGHT.
He won't deny his stupidity.
He'll just ignore the statement.
He has done it a few times.



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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:35:55 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:17:21 2008.

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I also think so.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:44:49 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:33:38 2008.

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Who CARES? Take his advice about us "scum of the board" and treat his behavior accordingly. Lately, the only reason he posts here is to get "hits" on his website and ridicule everyone else. If you FEED it, he will come. :)

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:45:26 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:35:55 2008.

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"Act of Douce" by not responding works just as well. :)

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 05:56:40 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:44:49 2008.

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If you FEED it, he will come.

Funny at times he mentions something to that effect about other people in here.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 06:02:39 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 05:45:26 2008.

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"Act of Douce" doesn't always work.
You can only ignore so many comments.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by ROCKPARKMAN on Thu Oct 30 20:47:36 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 30 06:02:39 2008.

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They have located the car but are not going to raise the car.
But they are still going to try retreive the data without removing box. There is a safety issue if the box seal is broken. Which could happen upon removal. They are going to train a few communication techs in diving so they can retreive the data.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 30 20:59:01 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by ROCKPARKMAN on Thu Oct 30 20:47:36 2008.

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Hey Rockparkman - I did some checking and found 3 small inaccuracies in the original posting.

1) You clarified one - the TA will not attempt to raise the car in question.
2) The car in question was not reefed prematurely.
3) The car in question was not equiped with a radiological / biological detection system.

However, the rest of the story appears to be true.

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Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Oct 30 21:16:16 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 30 20:59:01 2008.

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That's great. 16 million dollars to "retrieve the data." I'm guessing Lindsay Lohan will be one of the communication techs?

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