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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Tue Aug 5 22:33:18 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 22:17:59 2008. I have the books for the R-9's and they have all that stuff but forthe LO-V's there is very little around. FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Tue Aug 5 22:43:01 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Aug 5 21:48:53 2008. There's no one book that has everything. Association ofRailway Museums has reprinted a New Orleans instruction book that has a lot of good information. It even explains several forms of multiple-unit control, as NOPSI did run some short trains, back in the day. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 5 22:43:06 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Tue Aug 5 22:12:28 2008. Just for that, I'm coupling up 3662. Get in the cab, darling ... we're gonna do it hurricane style! Heh. Damn the knife switches, full speed astern! :)Nah, just been too well to play here lately ... was always curious as to what happened that fateful day - saw Unca Jeff's story of what happens to lacquer when it sits out too long, found it fascinating ... boy are YOU gonna get it from Unca Joe when he sees you've been posting here! =) |
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Posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 22:43:41 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 14:36:35 2008. Don't know exactly, however it often it blew past an R 21 after it left the Kingston local stop like it was standing still. Every once in a while, during the evening rush, I got lucky and the Lo V express would switch over to the New Lots bound 7th Ave (Bklyn) local track and head out to New Lots Ave, eliminating the need for me to leave at Utica to change trains |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 22:52:52 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 22:43:41 2008. Sounds better than the lax expresses of today. The local train usually ends up picking up speed, and going about 5MPH slower than the express. Express trains rarely blow by locals now.. :( Cars are too neutered. It is that BS 40-45 MPH top speed :(. The older cars probably hit 60 or so MPH...especially in the TUBES...without timers.And the Arnines DID outperform a hippo when i was on them. |
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Posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 23:04:24 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Tue Aug 5 20:56:43 2008. lol The motorman would start the brake actions about 300 feet before the begining of the station, while standing up. The R 21/22s took a lot less hand movement to stop and used a lot less distance. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 23:08:30 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 23:04:24 2008. Didn't the Lo-Vs have a similar brake system to the arnines? Or was there no electric part? Was it slack in type brakes?The arnines had pretty good brakes though. |
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Posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 23:17:45 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 22:52:52 2008. Yeah that was a bummer when they lessened the acceleration rate.. How can an R9 out perform an R68? The hippos start and stop more efficiently. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 5 23:32:19 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 23:17:45 2008. R9's still have their field shunt ... :) |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Tue Aug 5 23:46:40 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 14:12:55 2008. a relay was wired wrong.the motors were operating in reverse.I talked to jeff at 9pm tonite about this& our picnic. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Aug 6 00:11:53 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Jeff H. on Tue Aug 5 21:14:27 2008. It was only a rumor that scrapped Low-Vs were stored inside the Morris Park Tunnels. WHen TA went to confirm it they were not there. |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Wed Aug 6 00:20:17 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by TunnelRat on Tue Aug 5 23:46:40 2008. it was not wired wrong. The relay had failed from age. |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Aug 6 00:36:10 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Aug 6 00:11:53 2008. No it wasn`t.Don harold had them stored there to preserve them.when a t.a.SMALLWIG found out they were there he went down to "seize" them hinself.don had many friends looking out for him so that when they found out about this they called him to let him know of thr TREACHERY afoot.he promotly removed them to another location& mr.smallwig was flabbergasted to find an empty tunnel.once again the mighty tunnelrat purrs in satisfaction on letting the great unwashed masses of foamers what really happened. |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Aug 6 00:37:51 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Aug 6 00:36:10 2008. p.s.I left out "know" |
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Posted by lonerebel on Wed Aug 6 01:06:28 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Aug 5 13:25:37 2008. i was on that trip. They struggled up the hill at smith-9th, and never returned when we kicked off at coney island.what a pity. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Aug 6 01:10:25 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Aug 6 00:36:10 2008. I was being sarcastic there but LOL to the Great unwashed |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Aug 6 02:19:34 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Aug 6 00:36:10 2008. that's the story i got from Don as well |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 02:37:38 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Tue Aug 5 21:51:34 2008. At least they still manufacutre some DC bulbs; they're difficult but not impossible to get. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 02:38:59 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Tue Aug 5 21:46:13 2008. C'est moi l'original! C'est moi!Name the movie, get a cookie. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Aug 6 04:27:40 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Aug 5 22:52:52 2008. I really love reading your posts, I'm not going to even bother reading your mind, the print is too small! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Aug 6 04:39:30 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Jeff H. on Tue Aug 5 21:14:27 2008. Stop lying, you love to nit-pick! |
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Posted by 5119 on Wed Aug 6 04:39:38 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Tue Aug 5 20:56:43 2008. All the more remarkable when you take into consideration that a 10 car train of Lo-V's consisted of 7 motor cars and 3 non-powered trailers. I have always wondered how fast could they have gone with all 10 cars being motors. |
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Posted by metropod on Wed Aug 6 06:30:16 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Jeff H. on Tue Aug 5 21:14:27 2008. If you stop to think about it; is there any other reason a motor would be going in reverse while the rest of the train is going forward other than a wiring problem? |
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Posted by Gerry6309 on Wed Aug 6 07:22:37 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Jeff H. on Wed Aug 6 00:20:17 2008. There is more to this.If the reverser doesn't throw. the interlocks will prevent the Line Switch from closing. Maybe someone forgot to swap the forward and reverse wires on one end, or swapped them where they shouldn't have? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 07:59:55 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by 5119 on Wed Aug 6 04:39:38 2008. Pretty damn fast.:)The Flivvers as I understand were speed demons, as they were all motor cars. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 08:01:08 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Tue Aug 5 23:17:45 2008. The SMEEs had a higher acceleration rate than prewar equipment. They got off the line quicker, but once the old timers got going, watch out. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 08:01:42 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 5 23:32:19 2008. You'd never know the difference today with all those lousy timers. |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 08:53:46 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by metropod on Wed Aug 6 06:30:16 2008. Motor leads connected wrong will do that.FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 08:57:20 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by 5119 on Wed Aug 6 04:39:38 2008. Depends on the power and condition of the track.The Lex from Grand Central to 125 is the best the IRT has but you have to deal with timers. FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 09:01:52 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 02:37:38 2008. Some are now $7 each and made over seas.We were lucky and got 50,000 but they are all used except for a few hundred new ones. They last a long time and in day time turn them off. FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 09:27:09 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 08:53:46 2008. This is something you check for after you finish the repair job, not something that will occur suddenly while in-service. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 6 09:38:10 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 4 19:21:03 2008. ** it sounds like the MTA needs me to get down to some of their shops, and TEACH those people how to take care of railcars. **LOL! You couldn't find your ass in the dark with two hands and a flashlight. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 09:47:14 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 6 09:38:10 2008. Don't forget the mirror... |
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Posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:22:16 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 5 23:32:19 2008. Yes but only 2 motors per car. |
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Posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:28:08 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 08:01:08 2008. I miss the old days when you could reach 57 on the flats. When the R 38s arrived that ride became much smoother and quieter especially on the turns. No THUMP THUMP THUMP like the Arnines. |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 10:34:33 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:28:08 2008. That was after they rebuilt the 38's.I worked them when they came in new and we called them the garbadge cans as they were like being inside one and then you had the dreded black snow storm in the spring when the fans were turned on for the first time. FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 10:37:02 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 6 09:38:10 2008. Its hard to do when your head is on the inside.FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 10:41:08 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 09:27:09 2008. Have had enough of them put into service with this problem.That was in the seventies when any thing could happen and did. FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:47:26 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 07:59:55 2008. Ah yes the flying Flivvers (AKA "half breeds" lol) I might have railfaned one, during the days, and never have known it. Too bad they didn't keep a couple of cars just for the technical historical value alone. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 6 10:50:04 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 02:37:38 2008. What do you mean DC lights? Bulbs with filaments will work on DC sockets. Are you talking about DC flourescent bulbs? |
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Posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:59:58 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Aug 6 10:34:33 2008. Ecch and I thought I had it bad blowing out Data Processing equipment from the field that was only dust and staples from inside offices. You guys had to deal with concentrated poisonous outdoor particles from those nasty tunnels. I hope you had masks. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 6 11:09:47 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 6 10:50:04 2008. I recall something about vibration and rapid atomization of the filament, but I think that's the case for a DC bulb operated on AC. Physics was a long time ago.Now, if I could just remember the formula for measuring light waves... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 13:38:22 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:28:08 2008. That R-10 Abbott train I was on in July of 1969 did at least 57, if not more once we cleared the bridge after leaving Howard Beach. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 6 15:17:31 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 6 08:01:42 2008. Heh. Yeah, but when you get the all clear, they still move. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 6 15:18:07 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 10:22:16 2008. True dat, but they had POWER! :) |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Aug 6 16:23:47 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Jeff H. on Wed Aug 6 00:20:17 2008. I stand corrected. |
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Posted by irt1958 on Wed Aug 6 18:47:18 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 6 15:18:07 2008. They sure did. 190hp each with da spur cut gears, saw them at the transit museum many years ago. wwwwrrrrrrrr... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Aug 6 18:49:19 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by Jeff H. on Tue Aug 5 21:23:06 2008. Yikes! Thanks! |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Wed Aug 6 21:32:08 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by metropod on Wed Aug 6 06:30:16 2008. If by "wiring problem", you mean some kind of electrical failure,then yes that is correct. But if you mean that wires were connected wrong, that is not what happened. Nobody made a wiring mistake, the failure was due to burned-out insulation. I will explain exactly what happened in my response to "Gerry6309" |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Wed Aug 6 21:34:09 2008, in response to Re: What is the mechanical condition of the Low V?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 6 10:50:04 2008. Ordinary 120VAC household bulbs may explode as they burn out whenused in strings of 5 in a 600VDC circuit. The reason for this has been explained many, many times before. |
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