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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 13:33:25 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Wed Jan 26 13:31:16 2005.

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My correction: the gurney with the needle. And I hope they do everything in their power to find this man sane for trial.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 13:38:11 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 11:05:17 2005.

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I've gotten a better look at the trainsets involved:
One is Engine 956, trailer 197, trailer 133, DM 625
the other is DM 623, trailer 148, can't see the other trailer or engine. Yes, there was a suicide attempt, duly noted elsewhere. They've arrested a suspect and the death toll is likely to be adjusted.

Both DM's are total losses, along with at least one trailer (the one with the signal bridge draped over it).

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Wed Jan 26 13:38:39 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 13:33:25 2005.

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Wait, so you want to obscure justice by turning an insane man into a sane man? Also, we don't have any definitive facts as of now. We don't know what his intentions were. If he wanted to commit suicide and ran out, well, the question is, did he know right from wrong? Apparently he got scared. He only cared about his life, and not realizing what could happen to others. I see him being put in a mental institution.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 13:49:15 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Wed Jan 26 13:38:39 2005.

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Justice is always obscured. It is usually about who can get the best lawyers and the best argument.

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jan 26 13:53:49 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by BIE on Wed Jan 26 13:29:33 2005.

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Ironic, isn't it? To die is what he wanted in the first place, but now he takes 10 innocent lives along with him. I can appreciate the ravages of mental illness, but he needs to be removed from society by whatever means necessary. Perhaps this is insensitive, but "the needle" seems an easy out...

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by trains61 on Wed Jan 26 14:02:06 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jan 26 13:53:49 2005.

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IAWTP. Stupid A$$hole stood back and watched the whole thing unfold. I hope this person gets what they deserve.

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by chuchubob on Wed Jan 26 14:07:26 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by trains61 on Wed Jan 26 14:02:06 2005.

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Stupid A$$hole stood back and watched the whole thing unfold. I hope this person gets what they deserve.

He was already suicidal. Imagine how he feels now.

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by Canton Viaduct on Wed Jan 26 14:07:41 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by ALSTOM R160A on Wed Jan 26 13:23:36 2005.

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i made two posts. gotta go, bye!

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by WillD on Wed Jan 26 14:14:45 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 13:38:11 2005.

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Just out of curiousity, what is this "DM" that you speak of? Do you mean the F59PHs and F59PHIs that Metrolink operates? If so then yes the DM30ACs and DE30ACs that LIRR operates are vaguely related to them, but only slightly. I once heard somebody refer to a DE30AC as an F59PHC or something similar. The engine is roughly the same between the locos, an EMD 710 prime mover with either 12 or 16 cylinders, but really that about where the similarities end. The DE30AC uses a radial truck design, AC traction motors, is not fitted with the EMD california emissions kit, and was assembled by a third party in NYS.


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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by WillD on Wed Jan 26 14:17:58 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Wed Jan 26 13:31:16 2005.

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Just find a way to justify trying him in Texas as a mentally deficient gay man. They'll wire up the witness box with 1500vac just so they can zap him faster!


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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 26 14:25:39 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by JR on Wed Jan 26 12:58:28 2005.

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IAWTP. While I was out in Cali, I had the thought of a massive rail system. Most of the trackage would run over the freeways (kinda like JFK AirTrain's Jamaica branch), and would extend further than MetroLink; from the desert to the coast, and from SB to SD.

The entire system would run independent of other railroads, so there would be no freight trains running on the trackage, and there would be connections to airports in Palm Springs, Ontario, LA, and SD.

Metrolink has too many grade crossings.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by WillD on Wed Jan 26 14:41:36 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 26 14:25:39 2005.

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Gee, you just described probably what the now comotose California High Speed Rail line would have accomplished in 20-30 years assuming it's initial lines were successful. It was to be a fully grade separated HSR system lacking any interface with the FRA network and offering European or Asian-like HSR speeds of 350kph (220mph) between major cities. There appear to have been plans to make the CalTrain corridor line a non-FRA set of tracks, electrified at the 25kv the rest of the system would be electrified at, and working like the NEC. Sadly with Governor Davis shamed out of office by Enron-type dealings by the power industry and the election of Herr Gropenfuhrer, the system is all but dead.

But at least a few folks on the left coast haven't given up hope: http://www.bayrailalliance.org

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:42:30 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 10:24:29 2005.

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There are six cars which are, at this point, total writeoffs.

Cab car 625 is no a 70-foot long car, cab end totally shredded.
Cab car 623 torn open and flipped on side.

Coaches 133-148-177-197 all sustained major damage.

Add these to 608-634-113-203 already wrecked and out of service. That's ten cars out of 148 gone. The Seattle Sounder cars couldn't have come south at a better time.

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Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!)

Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Wed Jan 26 14:45:49 2005, in response to 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!), posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 26 12:29:51 2005.

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Nope according to the Fox News report it was a suicide attempt, but the bastard bailed at the last minute as the train hit the car. He's the suspect and well he's going to face multipule counts of manslaughter if not murders he may as well get the death penalty, but just wait for lawyers and others to prevent this.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:49:00 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 13:38:11 2005.

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Metrolink does NOT have "DM's".

They also do not have an engine 956...so it must have been 856.

The trains were:
625-133-197-886
623-148-177-856

856 is an F59PH
886 is an F59PHI
623-625 are car cars (like what NJ Transit uses...diesel pushing)
133-148 are 1992 Bombardier coach trailers
177 is a 1996 Bombardier coach trailer
197 is a 2002 Bombardier coach trailer

What all the news reports are saying now is that the southbound Metrolink hit the car on the crossing, derailed, picked the switch into the siding where the UP train was parked, everything jumped/flipped and blocked the northbound main right at the moment the northbound train was coming by, sending it into oblivion. It knocked down an overhead signal bridge which shreded car 148.

And the union Pacific engine was SD70M 4323, parked on a siding with a trainload of repair materials for a washout in Ventura County. News reports are asying, and they showed fireman pulling bodies out of the cab...that both UP crewmen are among the fatalities. Nobody has said anything, but from the looks of Metrolink cab car 625, the Metrolink engineer didn't survive either.

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Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!)

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 26 14:49:14 2005, in response to Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!), posted by M15 to South Ferry on Wed Jan 26 14:45:49 2005.

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As we've all seen here on the east coast, a multiple rapist/killer who has accepted the responsibility for his crime, has requested no appeals on his behalf, and has asked for the death penalty still will not be executed without every lawyer and group having their 15 minutes of media exposure.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:51:39 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Booge on Wed Jan 26 11:54:15 2005.

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The fault was NOT the parked locomotive either....it was parked on a siding doing nothing.

The cause was a car (as in AUTOMOBILE) on the track on which the southbound Metrolink train #100 from Moorpark was travelling, cab car first. It hit the car, derailed (picked a switch into the siding where the UP work train was parked), the wreckage then blocked the northbound main right at the moment northbound Metrolink #901 came along with engine 856 leading, and it piled into the mess.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:55:16 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 26 14:25:39 2005.

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The last line of your post is SO TRUE!!!!!

I know many of the Amtrak and Metrolink engineers out here...and believe me, once they have enough seniority to stay off the Metrolink runs, they do. And they all cite the same reason..."the damn crossings, you're always blowing the horn and getting ready to jump out of the seat (when in a cab car).

And recently, Metrolink instituted a rule that whenever the train is being operated from the cab car, the cab door MUST be closed. (In other words, slow the engineer down when they have to bail.) Used tobe they always had the cab door open...and the cab section of the cab car was roped off and closed to passengers. (It still is roped off, even with the closed cab door closes.)

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:57:05 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 13:17:38 2005.

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Glendale Police have charged the suspect with 10 counts of First Degree Murder.

Only problem is, the news is also reporting that he may be an "Illegal Immigrant"....26 years old, from south of the border.

So what will happen? The pendejo will probably get deported if he is an illegal...and then sneak back into the USA at first opportunity.

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Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!)

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 14:57:10 2005, in response to Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 26 12:36:20 2005.

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Once again, we have a fine case of FOX being irresponsible with its action shows. dangnabbit.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 26 14:57:30 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:51:39 2005.

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What I find somewhat hard to understand is how the impact of hitting an automobile should be enough to derail heavy Metrolink cars. It's like throwing a tennis ball at an elephant.

My LIRR/NYCT blog

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:59:05 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Wed Jan 26 13:31:16 2005.

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No, they use gas or lethal injection out here in California.

Only problem is, with all the appeals, etc., we'll be paying for this SOB's room and board for the next fifteen years, and that's IF the scheisters don't wiggle him out of it.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 14:59:46 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 13:49:15 2005.

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If he wanted to commit suicide, then why didn't he drive (or jump) off of a mountain? There are places in the LA metro area where he can do that.


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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 26 14:59:57 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:57:05 2005.

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Don't illegal immigrants that commit crimes have to first serve out their sentence before being deported?

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 15:00:22 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 14:59:46 2005.

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Whi do anything that involves anyone else. Just go to Walgreens and stock up on the sleeping pills.

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Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 26 15:02:47 2005, in response to Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 14:57:10 2005.

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You should stick to whatever it was that was making you busy and unable to post here.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 15:03:34 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 26 14:57:30 2005.

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Metrolink cab cars are NOT that heavy...they are 109,000 pounds. It doesn't take much to get under them to make one jump just that couple inches so the flanges are not inside the rail any more....

Metrolink has had three major wrecks involving cab cars at grade crossings...and all derailed when the cab cars derailed slightly and picked a switch near the incident. (The first two involved the very same cab car, it's no longer in service.)

By contrast, they also had two major incidents involving locmotive-first trains, hitting major obstacles (one a semi carrying a huge air conditioning condenser unit, the other a semi full of plumbing supplies). Neither one of those derailed, even though the locomotives involved did have major body damage (and both returned to service.)

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:03:34 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by chuchubob on Wed Jan 26 14:07:26 2005.

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You sure this creep wasn't Al Qaeda-related?

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 26 15:04:23 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 26 14:57:30 2005.

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As I understand it, some by-product of the impact cause the switch to be picked and the train derailed because of the picked switch and the force of hitting the freight locomotive.

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Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!)

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:05:59 2005, in response to Re: 24 Copycat ??? (was: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 26 15:02:47 2005.

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Good point.

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 15:18:24 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:57:05 2005.

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He will never get deported. If he does, then someone's head will be served on a platter, politically speaking. I hope Scott Peterson saves some of that injection when he is done with it.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jan 26 15:20:22 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 13:27:44 2005.

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Well, one of the 10 dead is an L. A. County Sherriff's deputy who was taking the train to work (most likely at the jail or as a bailiff in the Criminal Courts buidling downtown). Needless to say, the sherriff is extremly pissed. And this low-life lived in Compton, which is patrolled by LASD--hmm....
(not to imply that members of LASD would take matters into their own hands, besides, I don't think this guy will be seeing his Compton home for a long time, if ever).

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:22:13 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jan 26 15:20:22 2005.

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Good.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 15:22:58 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:59:05 2005.

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Try 20-25 years, as that is how long he will be on death row, on line right after Scott Peterson and 640 other ingrates. Also, my mistake about the chair. I forgot that San Quentin has the gurney.

However, I hope that his potential death sentence serves as a message that railway accidents are rarely accidents at all, and often have some malice behind them.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:24:33 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by S33 Hauppage on Wed Jan 26 15:22:58 2005.

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Guerney? why not the noose?

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jan 26 15:30:10 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 26 14:57:30 2005.

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Such incidents are not exclusive to Metrolink, in 1992 (or thereabouts) a northbound L. A. Metro Blue Line train hit a car that had gone around a crossing gate, and subsequently derailed on a switch just past the crossing. At least in that incident, fatalities were limited to the occupants of the car, and the Blue Line LRV (#125) suffered minimal damage and continues in service today.

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by brooklynQB on Wed Jan 26 15:36:56 2005, in response to Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 26 13:15:27 2005.

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I hope there is a Hell. Are we so self-centered as a society that we don't even think about things like this even in the throws of death? People overseas read about stories like this and no wonder they hate us.

And if you think I'm using this incident to charaterize American attitudes unfairly, this isn't the firts time someone's suicide or incompetency has killed on a mass scale.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 26 15:42:17 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jan 26 15:20:22 2005.

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The Sheriff's deputy was on duty.

Apparently in LA, some deputies are assigned to ride the trains to work as a security measure. That is what this officer was doing.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 26 15:47:53 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jan 26 15:20:22 2005.

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And this low-life lived in Compton, which is patrolled by LASD--hmm....

...straight outta Compton
is a brotha that'll smother yo' mother
and make ya sister think I love her
Dangerous m*********** raises hell
And if I ever get caught I make bail
See, I don't give a f***, that's the problem


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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:52:00 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 26 15:42:17 2005.

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Taking security measures is good - BUT those measures were obviously inadequate. They should try to lessen the occurrence of grade crossings.

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Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment)

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:53:12 2005, in response to Re: Suicide Attempt (LA train derailment), posted by brooklynQB on Wed Jan 26 15:36:56 2005.

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Killed multiple people, yeah. Mass scale? Well, if you count a minyan as a mass, I guess yeah.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 26 16:04:31 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 15:52:00 2005.

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They should try to lessen the occurrence of grade crossings.

Either you eliminate them *all* or the miscreant will just go to the ones that you did not eliminate.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 16:06:44 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 26 16:04:31 2005.

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But money is limited, obviously.


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THE LATEST (or some of the latest) on the "24" Copycat Crash

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 16:08:06 2005, in response to Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by R33 9139 on Wed Jan 26 10:16:16 2005.

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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1110&idq=%2Fff%2Fstory%2F0001%2F20050126%2F1511319989.htm&sc=1110


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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 26 16:11:00 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by WillD on Wed Jan 26 14:41:36 2005.

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IIRC, I have a map of my idea somewhere floating around my computer. I'll see if I can dig it up and post it here.

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 16:17:40 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by WillD on Wed Jan 26 14:14:45 2005.

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Driving motor, just a general term I use to identify a powered coach (like the 5000 series motors here on the LIRR). It's not model-specific.

wayne

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Los Angeles NBC link here

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 16:20:30 2005, in response to Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by R33 9139 on Wed Jan 26 10:16:16 2005.

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see here

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 26 16:22:26 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Steve Hoskins on Wed Jan 26 14:49:00 2005.

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Thanks for the information; not meaning to use a misleading term.

Now Metrolink has lost THREE cab cars, with 634 gone due to collision with a freight a few years back.

wayne

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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 26 16:22:46 2005, in response to Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 10 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Wed Jan 26 16:06:44 2005.

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But money is limited, obviously.

Yup. California sure has more idiots than dollars!
ergo: In the grand scheme of things...

1) SPEND THE MONEY
2) Which creates jobs
3) Which puts bread on the table
4) Which increases taxible income



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Re: Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!

Posted by LA Scott on Wed Jan 26 16:33:40 2005, in response to Breaking NEWS! AT least 3 killed in MetroLink Crash!, posted by R33 9139 on Wed Jan 26 10:16:16 2005.

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TerraServer picture of crash area:

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=10&Z=11&X=1917&Y=18886&W=3

The SUV was apparently parked at the cossing of Chevy Chase, at the north end of the picture.

2 blocks south is the start of the siding where the UP train was parked.


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