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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 1 13:09:39 2007, in response to Re::: -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 12:55:05 2007. Here is the map that was attached to the original article:
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:13:14 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 01:40:28 2007. Actually, I was just wondering if the IND line was planned to go out to Montauk. I didn't really think there were plans to run the subway all the way out there. But I wanted to hear from the person who claimed so. Not someone else who thought so. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:14:20 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 02:49:33 2007. Serious and curious. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 1 13:15:33 2007, in response to Re::: -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 12:55:05 2007. No - it just means he did not make the story up. Apparently the story originated from Dan Rattiner who publishes Danspapers.com SilverFox had probably read the story either on the original site or Trainorders.com (where I found it), recalled certain aspects of it and embelished others... |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:24:16 2007, in response to Re:Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 12:56:36 2007. I'd use some language, but I don't want this thread reefed. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:25:51 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:02:29 2007. I'd wanted to hear it from the source.Instead of ther back of a horse. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:26:52 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Apr 1 13:06:25 2007. Just a weak attempt to pull an AFJ. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 1 13:29:10 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:26:52 2007. So you were joking. I'm glad to hear that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:31:02 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 1 13:29:10 2007. Are you sure? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:32:45 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:13:14 2007. Actually you were FOOLED BIG TIME and you were the only one. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:32:58 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:14:20 2007. And sad. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:33:24 2007, in response to Re:Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:24:16 2007. Try Dutch. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:35:40 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:25:51 2007. Doesn't matter. You made a complete fool of yourself and we all got a nice laugh from it. And the sad part is that it will happen again, many more times. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:43:29 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:32:45 2007. Yesh, right. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:47:35 2007, in response to Re:Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:33:24 2007. Wat zou u me in het Nederlands willen zeggen? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:48:32 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:43:29 2007. Thank you. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:48:42 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:35:40 2007. YAWN! |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 1 13:53:02 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:31:02 2007. I didn't think that he was joking, but if I understand him correctly he now says that it was a weak April Fools Joke. Maybe he's been joking for years? He could be Subchats version of Vinny the Chin. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:58:10 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 1 13:53:02 2007. Believe me. He's been here longer than me, and I've been here (SubChat/Talk) for 7 years or so, and he is NOT joking. He really IS like *that*... |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:14:03 2007, in response to Re:Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:24:16 2007. I'd use some language, but I don't want this thread reefed.To quote from a chick flick: Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Bugger! |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:15:49 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:48:42 2007. Ever seen Groundhog Day? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:17:24 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 13:13:14 2007. Actually, I was just wondering if the IND line was planned to go out to Montauk.What made you think that was in the slightest bit plausible? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 1 14:17:43 2007, in response to Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by NewLots#2 on Wed Mar 28 23:18:42 2007. This talk of abandoned tunnels made me curious - I looked up some old engineering journals and found the following - seems there is a long lost trolley tunnel between Astoria and 71st Street Manhattan:On June 21st, 1886, at the request of Mr. James W. Smith, then President of the Long Island City Railway, a report outlining the future policy of the Company was presented in which direct service to Manhattan was advocated. Following this report, the question was thoroughly ventilated in the public press, with strong advocacy of the suggestion. For several years, however, nothing was done with this proposition. About 1891, this company was merged into the New York and Queens County Railway, and it obtained from the Legislature of the State of New York the necessary franchise rights to construct a trolley line to New York City by a tunnel to be constructed under the East River. In 1892 and 1893 the writer's firm constructed, for this corporation, a tunnel (internal diameter 25 ft. 2 in. in the portions which were iron lined and a rectangular section 20 by 16 ft. in the portions in solid rock) under the East River, crossing the two channels and Blackwell's Island. This tunnel (shown on Plate XXIV) extends from the foot of East 71st Street, Manhattan, to the the foot of Webster Avenue, Long Island City. Borings and soundings were made at close intervals across the channels, and as far as information could be obtained (with the extremely rapid current running in the East and West Channels of the East River), there was every reason to believe that the construction of a tunnel on that line would be through a practically continuous bed of rock, although the geological information indicated clearly the intrusion of a seam of dolomitic limestone under each channel. The work on this tunnel was let out by contract, and proceeded very slowly for a considerable time, when, having sunk both shafts and having turned the tunnel on the Manhattan side of the river, decomposed rock was encountered at the contact between the gneiss and dolomite under the West Channel. This tunnel was at a depth of nearly 100 ft. below mean low water. The depth of the water in the West Channel was 65 ft., but that in the East Channel was only about 30 ft. Under the West Channel two comparatively narrow sheared contacts in the dolomite rock were badly decomposed; under the East Channel the contacts between the Fordham gneiss, the mica schist, and the dolomitic formation were also extensively distorted, and, to some extent, decomposed, but the whole of this tunnel was completed successfully with the use of air pressure, the depth not being too great to prohibit this method of construction. After the completion of this tunnel the New York and Queens County Railway was unable to secure the necessary operating certificates and the tunnel was abandoned. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sun Apr 1 14:20:35 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 1 09:14:44 2007. Confucius say: "Learn to masturbate. Come in handy." |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sun Apr 1 14:29:00 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 1 02:52:23 2007. Olog, He's right. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:40:38 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 1 02:52:23 2007. Too close to AFD for you to say that.What's AFD? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 1 14:42:43 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by SilverFox on Sun Apr 1 14:20:35 2007. Do we have to send you out for ANOTHER round of sensitivity training? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:09:30 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:17:24 2007. I had doubts about it.No matter what Brian might say about it. Silver Fox mentioned it. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:20:20 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:40:38 2007. APD = April Fool's Day |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:28:12 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 13:32:58 2007. Actually I find it getting boring in here. YAWN! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:31:30 2007, in response to Re::: -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 1 13:15:33 2007. If it came from one of Dan's Papers, then it wasn't an April Fool's Joke by Silver Fox. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 1 15:52:19 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by mambomta on Fri Mar 30 14:23:18 2007. The silver-and blue paint scheme gave it away. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 1 15:56:14 2007, in response to Re:Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Apr 1 14:14:03 2007. Then there's the mayor's classic line from the original Pelham 1-2-3:Shit! Piss! Fuck!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:03:09 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:09:30 2007. YOU were fooled. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:04:38 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:28:12 2007. That's because you were fooled. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:05:13 2007, in response to Re -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:31:30 2007. It didn't come from Dan. SilverFox made the whole thing up. I ALREADY told you that... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:05:34 2007, in response to Re -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 15:31:30 2007. He only used some snippets of ideas from Dan. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 16:05:43 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:03:09 2007. YOU were pissed off. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:11:25 2007, in response to Re:::-- Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 16:05:43 2007. Not at all. I got a great big laugh out of it at your expense! This was fun. But sad. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Sun Apr 1 16:13:42 2007, in response to Re:Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 1 15:56:14 2007. LMAO, who could forget that! :-) |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 16:25:15 2007, in response to Re: Re -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:05:13 2007. First you say "He only used some sniplets of ideas from Dan." Then you say he made the whole thing up. What are you trying to say? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 1 16:29:22 2007, in response to Re: Re -Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Apr 1 16:25:15 2007. He was inspired by Dan, but made up the entire text himself from his own head. |
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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Sun Apr 1 16:55:23 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Fri Mar 30 04:19:44 2007. And how in the world would the trains be able to run on the same tracks?! ;-) |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 1 19:35:15 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 23:39:57 2007. "What [Terrapin Station] did to this thread is unforgivable."He didn't do anything. I believe it was me! |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Sun Apr 1 23:10:11 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by randyo on Fri Mar 30 21:04:37 2007. Within the last 6 months. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 2 02:14:38 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by TunnelRat on Sun Apr 1 23:10:11 2007. Thanks. I'll check it out. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 2 02:29:32 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 1 14:17:43 2007. In what journal was this mentioned? Seems like a good AF joke to me. Webster Av is the old name for 37th Av. The terminus of such a tunnel would be on the grounds of Keyspan's power plant about a block south of the Roosevelt Island Bridge. This is crazy. I like it though. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 2 02:41:52 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 1 14:17:43 2007. If any of you are really fascinated by abandoned tunnels, just enter "Cincinatti subway" in your address bar and you will come across a number of websites related to the almost completed Cincinatti, Ohio subway system. The subway is complete except for tracks and station finish and was originally planned to bring the southern Ohio interurbans into the downtown section of the city. Unfortunately, by the time the tunnels were completed, many of the interurbans it was designed to serve had either bustituted or gone out of business entirely and the city did not want to proceed with the alternate plan of running its own subway trains through the tunnels. In the 1950s, some of the stations were used as fallout shelters and later, a water main was laid along the entire length of one of the trackways the subway. The site I looked at had many good photos both of the construction and also of what the system looks like these days. You would think that with the light rail boom in this country that the city of Cincinatti would take aevantage of an almost complete infrastructure and establish a light rail system in its city. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Apr 2 10:08:58 2007, in response to Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by NewLots#2 on Wed Mar 28 23:18:42 2007. Man, oh Manischewitz! Is this thread STILL going on? Am I still READING it? Omigod!!!:-) Bob |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Apr 2 13:22:52 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 2 02:29:32 2007. The tunnel was described in an engineering journal - but with a couple of changes I turned it into an April Fool's joke - The real tunnel has smaller dimensions and was built for the Consolidated Gas Company to carry gas lines from Manhattan to Queens, hence its termination point at what is today Keyspan. |
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