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Re: R142 howl |
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Posted by irt1958 on Sat Dec 30 12:23:23 2006, in response to R142 howl, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 30 12:19:29 2006. It's the spirit of the lo-v's |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Dec 30 12:25:46 2006, in response to R142 howl, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 30 12:19:29 2006. I operate the R142's three days a week.I Have been doing it for almost 5 years and every train sounds alike to me, even though some of them do sound a bit different, when im on the platfrom and the train is pulling out. Hard to tell with hearing protection on though. |
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Re: R142 howl |
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Posted by Parkchester Local on Sat Dec 30 14:41:34 2006, in response to R142 howl, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 30 12:19:29 2006. I've heard it on 142A's whenever speed tops 40mph. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 19:55:44 2006, in response to R142 howl, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 30 12:19:29 2006. Yes. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 19:57:51 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sat Dec 30 12:25:46 2006. But why do you need hearing protection when your operating with all the windows closed? (Thats if you HAVE the windows closed) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Dec 30 21:09:33 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 19:57:51 2006. You're REQUIRED to wear hearing protection on the (2) and (5) lines. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 21:22:58 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Dec 30 21:09:33 2006. Oh, well, I never knew that, that's something new I learned today.But is there a specific reason to wear hearing protection on the (2) ans (5) lines? |
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Posted by kawasakir142 on Sat Dec 30 21:23:30 2006, in response to R142 howl, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 30 12:19:29 2006. The bombardier R142's didnt do that when they were brand new. Nowadays they do that sound on mostly 6300 to 6700 series R142's. Some sound like R62A's. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 21:24:20 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by kawasakir142 on Sat Dec 30 21:23:30 2006. I guess the motors are burned-in. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Sat Dec 30 22:14:57 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 21:22:58 2006. I know some operators wear hearing protection on the (4) line, but not all of them. But you see more operators wear hearing protection over the summer for some reason. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Sat Dec 30 22:15:59 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by P-rad M on Sat Dec 30 22:14:57 2006. Sorry, I meant to ssay "See operators" not "Know operators". hehe |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Dec 30 23:55:58 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 21:22:58 2006. But is there a specific reason to wear hearing protection on the (2) ans (5) lines?OSHA declared the sound levels at "points" on the (2) and (5) lines to exceed their definition of what they consider to be too loud in the work place. In response, RTO declared it mandatory that all conductors and train operators on the (2) and (5) lines wear hearing protection while on the train. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 00:17:14 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 19:57:51 2006. OSHA did some kind of study, found certain places on the Deuce and Five Lines very loud...RTO said Crews wear hearing protection who work the Deuce and Five Lines, if you dont you are looking to get pulled off that train if they catch you without it. |
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Re: R142 howl |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:09:06 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 00:17:14 2006. I first seen that Bulletin at Stillwell. Its didn't suprise me I normally don't like wearing hearing Protection but the AC is so noisy it drove me crazy so I use my hearing protection on those R 142's. Thankfully the R 160's don't seem as loud.It was kind of funny at Stillwell when they posted the Bulletin some Supervisor started checking train crews for the hearing protection and wrote up some people. The look on his face when a TSS told him to read the whole Bulletin its only the #2 and #5 Lines. All the write ups went into the trash. ONLY AT Stillwell!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 02:12:20 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:09:06 2006. Dang! Sounds like someone didn't make their quota for DANs. :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 02:13:21 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:09:06 2006. LOL it wasnt you knwo who was it???I tell you Dave its like night and day from when i frist seen him... NOBODY is talking to him he sits by himself most of the times... Your crap stinks just like the rest of us hourly's how does that shirt fit?? |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:21:14 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 02:12:20 2006. Just one of those trying to make it to Supt. and trying to get the train crews to hate him even more then we already do. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:27:14 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 02:13:21 2006. No not him. This was a ATD or TD thats worked Stillwell. He is known to write people up for almost anything. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 02:57:40 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:21:14 2006. There's always junior deputy wiglets wherever you go. TOLD ya Stillwell would turn out to be an interesting place. (and ya wonder why folks pick out east) ... |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 03:12:25 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 02:57:40 2006. Stillwell can be a very intesting place at times. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 03:16:10 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 03:12:25 2006. Heh. Yeah, best leave it at that. Welcome to Beepbeep division! (grin) |
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Posted by Parkchester Local on Sun Dec 31 04:33:50 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 02:13:21 2006. Who are you talking about?email me your response. BTW I'm the guy whose a little annoyed at you for talking you know who into picking on the 6. ;-) |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 07:52:34 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:21:14 2006. Nah. I guess that TSS failed reading comprehension. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 08:58:28 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Dec 30 23:55:58 2006. Oh, Occupational Safety Health Accociation I guess visited that line, alright. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 09:01:44 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 00:17:14 2006. Did OSHA do any other studying in any other lines? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 09:05:39 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:09:06 2006. HAHA! I would laugh at the supervisors face! And he was probably new anyway. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 09:07:15 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 03:12:25 2006. Yup, very. You got all kids of different stuff and weird things happening there. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 09:11:04 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 09:01:44 2006. They did it on all the Lines in the A Div..They found that the Deuce and 5 lines are the loudest... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 09:13:50 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 09:05:39 2006. No you dont do that...Then you are asking to get written up for insubordination for laughing in a TSS's face, if that TSS wanted to play hardball and he will have witnesses to prove it... You turn your back walk away,then have a quiet chuckle to yourself. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 10:00:31 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 09:13:50 2006. And you say to yourself "THIS is the TSS who won't get told when he's laying up 10 cars with a brake problem that's sorta working right now." Screw the rulebook, rule number ONE? Don't hang with the wrong crowd when you're "IND people." And SO goes Stillwell. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 10:08:32 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 07:52:34 2006. I've MET (and talked with) a few who have piped off the ship the past 6-7 years or so and all I can say is that the "brain damage from on high" has been unprecedented ... you and I both remember the "wing it or fling it" mentality that the railroad of yore was built upon ... get it done ... wing it or fling it and if nobody DIED, it was a GREAT day. :)They LEFT ebcause of what makes TSS these days. TMO's and MMI's are an ancient relic. And YET, that "ineffective hierarchy" sure got it DONE. :( |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 10:10:08 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 10:00:31 2006. Makes me think twice sometimes about going over to the B Div If i have to deal with people like that, heh heh heh..I still may go just to see for myself... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 10:17:36 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 10:10:08 2006. I know you've checked out "Edwards" here ... HIS pops could tell you stories. SAD part is that Stillwell hasn't changed much over 35+ years from what I've been told by others there. Lemme put it to you this way ... Bensonhurst. :(The BRONX (as you know is FAR more diverse and "integrated" than Brooklyn even TODAY. Do the math. I was "IND" and I hung out with those evil "IND people" that Adam Clayton Powell *made* happen before "full unification." When *I* came on board in 1970, only three years after (ahem "Eunich-i-cation" of the BMT") us "invaders" from the CITY subway were frowned upon every bit as much as the BLET looks down on those "ghetto transit type wannabe's" ... I'm in AWE that any of that managed to survive all these years. :( B division is absolutely a "slower" kinda "country cowpie" compared to the cigar-chomping "push-push-push-push-push" hectic of the IRISH railroad y'all be pulling handle on ... but the ITALIAN railroad has a wonderful kinda laid back "train gets there when it does, arsehole" kinda intervals and if you go 5 minutes late, nobody GIVES a rats ass because you're the first train they've seen in half a day. :) B division is a gas, so long as you don't pay any attention to prima donnas and gaping morons. Think 128th and St Ann's ... I *know* you can find the queen. (grin) |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 11:35:21 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 10:08:32 2006. I've always said we did more with less back in the early 80s than what we accomplish today. Creative Railroading is what I called it. The need for accountability and the fear of bad press and lawsuits brought us to where we're at today:-( |
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Re: And Now, more Fishbowl Photos |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Dec 31 11:41:25 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 02:21:14 2006. Was it the TSS who got his ass whooped last year over a cellphone. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 11:43:48 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 11:35:21 2006. All I can say is GOOD thing I was pushed out of there when I was ... things were on the Wagner "downhill slide" when the "Wholly Ronan Empire" was established (don't mind me, look up TWU "rank and file" faction and you'll understand my OWN chagrin as to why "rail and bus" failed to depose yer asshole there, I was a *major* "rank and file" activist which is *WHY* my brakes failed.)But GEEZ ... the game *USED* to be "let's GET there and DAMN the torpedoes." I use to FIX "indication failure" and I had TAPE to twist around an "undercar hurricane" and I had BULBS and PLIERS and RUBBER GLOVES. :( |
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Re: And Now, more Fishbowl Photos |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 11:48:03 2006, in response to Re: And Now, more Fishbowl Photos, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Dec 31 11:41:25 2006. Shouldn't be. I don't think he's back on the property. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 11:58:52 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 11:43:48 2006. Heh. We used to get to the other end "by any means necessary" especially on the last trip. I saw first hand in 1983 as a c/r what could happen to you if you went OOS at 23-Ely at 8:15AM, Manhattan-bound, during the rush hour. It was better if you just got 'em into the city. |
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Re: And Now, more Fishbowl Photos |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 12:10:39 2006, in response to Re: And Now, more Fishbowl Photos, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Dec 31 11:41:25 2006. Negative... |
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Re: R142 howl |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Dec 31 12:14:29 2006, in response to R142 howl, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 30 12:19:29 2006. Like this?http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/7/159519/MTA_Kawasaki_7706.mp3 (file from TransiTalk) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 12:14:59 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 02:57:40 2006. Well District 2 is becoming more and more FUN every day!!!Looks like i wont see the Deuce at all this Pick coming up if the stories i hear are true with people running away from there... Good better for me maybe i can get a decent job then. Five years in title NEVER had a problem with any Supt or TSS i just do my job, thats all they can ask from me. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 31 12:19:09 2006, in response to Re: And Now, more Fishbowl Photos, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Dec 31 11:41:25 2006. In the course of responses, the "subject" got changed in a response by BLE-NIMX. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 12:38:24 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 11:58:52 2006. Even if you had to "STAND BY YOUR LEAF ..." Heh. Been there, done that. buzz-buzz, let's go. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 12:42:55 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 12:14:59 2006. Suckup! Heh. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 12:48:22 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 12:42:55 2006. Heh FAR from it...What did somebody tell me at White Plains last week? Something about how i present myself... Or How i go about my way down here or something like that ... This i can tell you you im 6'4 and about 240 lbs.. You walk in a Crew Room you have to LOOK to find me.. Beacuse you wont Hear me... |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 31 12:53:09 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 12:38:24 2006. Never did that. But I remember once working the D at 11:30PM on a Sunday night and putting everyone in the good section for one stop rather than dumping everyone out at 155th Street. Self preservation will make you move mountains. :-) |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Dec 31 14:18:20 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 31 10:17:36 2006. I have to say the IND has become my favorite. I don't think its much of a BMT/IND thing now its a Location thing South Vs Queens. Then in the South its South vs Uptown. I guess it depends on the people you come in contact with. Most of the D Line personal that work out of Bedford Pk tend to stay in the T/D office between trips. They don't like to mix with the other lines and for good reasons. I been Extra board at Stillwell so I seen the mess that could happen. |
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Posted by kawasakir142 on Sun Dec 31 15:07:22 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Dec 30 21:24:20 2006. yea im thinking the same thing. Because the 1100 and 1200 series R142's sound brand new since they mostly run express and dont have so much stop and go to break in the motors |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Dec 31 17:07:08 2006, in response to Re: R142 howl, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 31 09:11:04 2006. Even with the cab windows closed? |
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