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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jun 30 12:53:49 2006, in response to what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by xtimx on Fri Jun 30 12:41:07 2006. No. The R was extended to 179 St until the geese started honking about having to change trains at Kew Gardens to catch the express.Now the only expresses along the Hillside av branch are the rush hour E trains. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 13:31:14 2006, in response to what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by xtimx on Fri Jun 30 12:41:07 2006. Until 1976, it ran 24/7 from Continental to Smith/9th. Between 1976 and 1987, it terminated at Queens Plaza at nights. From 1987 to 1992, it terminated at Queens Plaza evenings, nights and weekends (when the R became the 24/7 local). From 1992 to 1999, it ran to 179th St at night (replacing the R). Sometime in 1994, the 63rd St. connector construction project forced the G to terminate at Court Sq on weekends. Service was usually 6 R32's, then 6 R46's after 1992. The F was routed to 57th St (then Queensbridge) in May of 1987 at night. For a while, the E served Hillside Ave overnights. After Archer Ave opened, the R was the only service at night. After the October 1992 service cuts forced the R to run as a shuttle in Brooklyn at night, the G was extended from Queens Plaza all the way to 179th to compensate. There were LOUD complaints about this service pattern, but it survived for almost 7 years. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Jun 30 13:35:50 2006, in response to what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by xtimx on Fri Jun 30 12:41:07 2006. The (G) ran to 179th during late nights for a time, when the (R) was not operating and the (F) ended at 21st/Queensbridge. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Fri Jun 30 13:39:50 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Jun 30 13:35:50 2006. until 1997. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 13:48:00 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by R42 4787 on Fri Jun 30 13:39:50 2006. The F was routed back to Queens Blvd at night when the 63rd St's tubes had their roadbeds replaced. During that time, the orange Q terminated at 57th/6th, and the yellow "S" to 34th St/Broadway took over, single tracking around whatever section was being replaced. |
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Posted by mr_brian on Fri Jun 30 13:58:15 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 13:31:14 2006. R32s did make random rare apperances on the G (I remember riding one sometime in 2000 or 2001) but in terms of car length, I can't remember if they were 10-car trains, 8-car trains or even 6-car trains. I don't know if that issue was ever addressed.Then after the G was cut back to Court Sq, and running to 71 Av evenings and late nights, 4-car R46s became the norm. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:00:21 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by mr_brian on Fri Jun 30 13:58:15 2006. After 1992, the only R32's you'd see on the G were sets borrowed from the E fleet out of necessity, and they were always 10 cars. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 14:01:41 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:00:21 2006. No-- They were R32 sets out of Jamaica, but often were 8 cars longI never saw, but wouldnt be that surprised if there were 6 car sets on the G. |
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Posted by mambomta on Fri Jun 30 14:03:56 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:00:21 2006. After 1992, the only R32's you'd see on the G were sets borrowed from the E fleet out of necessity, and they were always 10 cars.Not true. before the G went OPTO, the only R32 G trains I ever saw were 8 cars long. It is entirely possible that a 10-car train was occasionally put into service in a pinch, but I had never seen one since I started using QB on a regular basis. IIRC, I did see one or 2 10 car G-trains when I used to work in Midwood. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:05:30 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 14:01:41 2006. Not according to Train Dude, who worked Jamaica at the time. I personally never saw anything but a 10 car R32 G train after 1992. They were always borrowed consists returned to the E as soon as possible. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 14:07:09 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:05:30 2006. I saw them at least 5 times in the late 90s... maybe 97-00 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:07:49 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by mambomta on Fri Jun 30 14:03:56 2006. We're talking about 2 different eras. Before 1992, the G was always R32 and it did indeed run 6 and sometimes 8 cars. But later, when the G became totally R46, it never used anything but a borrowed 10 car consist. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:09:22 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 14:07:09 2006. Every R32 I saw on the G in that era was 10 car trains. No R32's were ever assigned to the G permanently during this era. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 14:10:07 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:07:49 2006. I never rode the G before 1992(1996 actually). I was on a few 8 car G trains. Therefore the G has run 8 car R32 trains since 1992 |
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Posted by mambomta on Fri Jun 30 14:14:11 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:07:49 2006. We're talking about 2 different eras. Before 1992, the G was always R32 and it did indeed run 6 and sometimes 8 cars. But later, when the G became totally R46, it never used anything but a borrowed 10 car consist.No, we are talking about the same era. between 1990 and 1995, I rarely ever took any other trains than the 6, J, and occasionally the A, L, & 4/5. From about 1997 to 1999, I took the J(or rarely A) & F. It wasn't until 1999 that I really started to use Queens Blvd. I never saw a 10-car G train on QB. I had originally thought that those R32 G's were 10 cars until I saw them stop at the 8-car marker. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:22:17 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by mambomta on Fri Jun 30 14:14:11 2006. I saw 10 car G trains many times between 1995 and 1999. Exclusively 10 cars. It was always an odd sight. |
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Posted by mr_brian on Fri Jun 30 20:08:47 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:09:22 2006. I guess I'll take your word for it.If I ever had a 32 on the G, I'd be in the first car or one of the rear cars (if going Queensbound). Plus, I wasn't really following transit that much, so I didn't take the time to count the cars after I got off the train. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jun 30 20:38:25 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 30 14:22:17 2006. I can vouch for you Chris. As a regular G line rider, pre V train, R32 G trains were always 10-cars.Occasionally, if they were short of a 2 car R46 set, they would run an 8 car train of R46s. |
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Posted by kawasakir142 on Fri Jun 30 23:30:57 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 14:01:41 2006. 8 R32's equal 6 r46's because when the G ran 6 r46's they stopped at the 8 car mark |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jun 30 23:33:56 2006, in response to what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by xtimx on Fri Jun 30 12:41:07 2006. Pretty much Smith/9 Sts. to Continental weekdays, and up to Queens Plaza during nights and weekends until the 63rd St. connector was built, then ended at Court Sq. |
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Posted by kawasakir142 on Fri Jun 30 23:43:55 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jun 30 23:33:56 2006. I can see in the future that the G would turn back into a useful line when the white rennovation of Bed Stuy ends because these ppl are moving from LI and upstate; They want that G train to get them downtown faster than relying on the B38, B52, B26, B25 buses and the SLOW C train. If the G was to have more use cut back that V train and mix in service since the E is the favorite on 53rd st. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 1 01:34:46 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jun 30 12:53:49 2006. Yes..the G DID run to 179th st LATE NIGHTS..replacing R service. |
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question about 6 car r46 G trains... |
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Posted by xtimx on Sat Jul 1 03:31:00 2006, in response to what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by xtimx on Fri Jun 30 12:41:07 2006. where would the conductors position be? |
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Posted by Mark W. on Sat Jul 1 03:49:21 2006, in response to question about 6 car r46 G trains..., posted by xtimx on Sat Jul 1 03:31:00 2006. It was 4-2. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Jul 1 08:12:52 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 1 01:34:46 2006. I stand corrected. |
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Posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Sat Jul 1 09:22:53 2006, in response to Re: question about 6 car r46 G trains..., posted by Mark W. on Sat Jul 1 03:49:21 2006. Explain, in dummy terms... |
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Posted by xtimx on Sat Jul 1 14:33:11 2006, in response to Re: question about 6 car r46 G trains..., posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Sat Jul 1 09:22:53 2006. r 46 with 6 cars.ABBA conductors position and then another 2 car set. i assume AA? so 6 cars, conductor in the rear end of the 4th car, 2 cars behind him. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 1 15:15:50 2006, in response to Re: question about 6 car r46 G trains..., posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Sat Jul 1 09:22:53 2006. A-A(conductor)-A-B-B-A or A-A(conductor)-A-A-A-A or the very rare A-A(conductor)-A-B-A-A A-A(conductor)-A-A-B-A |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sat Jul 1 20:38:11 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by kawasakir142 on Fri Jun 30 23:43:55 2006. The C is no slower than the C. And the C actually goes to manhattan.The G is no alternative to the C. In fact, many G riders end up on the C anyway. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 1 20:46:19 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by kawasakir142 on Fri Jun 30 23:43:55 2006. Sheesh...Why even bother? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 2 01:01:14 2006, in response to Re: what was the G train like pre-V service?, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Jul 1 08:12:52 2006. Also, the FTC headhouse is not needed. You should stand corrected about that too. |
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