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DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING

Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026

On the news..... 2 dumb kids on the Williamsburg Bridge. One of them dead.

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat May 23 06:33:51 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

Apparently, natural selection needs help in maintaining a viable gene pool.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 07:32:39 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

As long is that there is social media, this won't end.

Bill M.

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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat May 23 10:35:04 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 07:32:39 2026.



I don't think that social media has any thing to do with it Bill. "Stupid" has been around a long time. I remember kids in the 60's doing the same thing and getting killed. Another thing they used to do was ride on the rear fender of the buses. Every so often one would fall off and get run over by a following car.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat May 23 10:35:07 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 07:32:39 2026.



I don't think that social media has any thing to do with it Bill. "Stupid" has been around a long time. I remember kids in the 60's doing the same thing and getting killed. Another thing they used to do was ride on the rear fender of the buses. Every so often one would fall off and get run over by a following car.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 23 13:56:21 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

One kid found on the roadbed, the other one went THRU the roadbed and fell thru the structure. Police boats responded because it was thought the 14 y/o plunged into the East River. He was later found in a lot instead.

Now to something I preach about often: what the train crew has to deal with. Questions by NYPD, the OCC and supervision on the scene. Then, because it's assumed the train crew is dirty, they are taken downtown to pee in the cup. Tuesday at 8AM they have to see the NYCT quacks, uh medical staff. Also Labor Relations. But the abuse isn't over yet. The crew is restricted to the platform: stand on your feet all day answering mostly dumb questions in the hot, dirty stations. They can be stuck there for months until all the paperwork is in order and their Line Superintendent signs off on it.

All this time, the crew is treated like criminals by senior management as they are not allowed to work their picked job. I went through that nonsense twice in my career and it's not pleasant.

Every time a train operator moves that train, it's a risk. This is why they become a Dispatcher or TSS to get off the road. At least half of them are clueless supervisors. Those who stick it out can't wait to pick switching.

So glad I'm gone, I discourage people from being a train operator today because it's too risky of a job. As my retirement years go by, I would not do it again.

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Posted by Railman718 on Sat May 23 17:10:19 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

One was 18 the other was 14..

That 18 year old will spend the rest of his thinking about the dumb choice he made that also got his friend killed..

Oh and it wasn’t just two of them they always travel in packs there was a few more train car cameras will show who was with them..

BTW could it be the same ones who was doing it the Friday before when they shut down train traffic on the Willy B?

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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat May 23 17:15:32 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Sat May 23 17:10:19 2026.

That 18 year old will spend the rest of his (life) thinking about the dumb choice he made...

He may not get that opportunity since he is in critical condition but I hear you. Not that it makes matters better or worse but it was his birthday.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 18:34:59 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat May 23 10:35:04 2026.

Social media has everything to do with it. They post their daredevil stunts on youtube and tiktok. Viewers see this and they want to outdo them.

Bill M.


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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat May 23 20:12:58 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 23 13:56:21 2026.

That's a damn shame. Peeing in a cup is SOP after most any personal injury accidents. Its the way it is these days. That said, when all that comes back clean, the train crew should be allowed back to work after any trauma leave is completed. With all you TA guys have to go thru, I'm surprised that the union puts up with all that BS.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 23 20:35:55 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 18:34:59 2026.

They call it "matching that energy"

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 23 21:49:12 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat May 23 20:12:58 2026.

They union says "As long as you get paid while restricted, our hands are clean."

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 23 23:00:34 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Sat May 23 17:10:19 2026.

BTW could it be the same ones who was doing it the Friday before when they shut down train traffic on the Willy B?

That's a good theory. Probably was the same group.

So that's why the M and J lines blew up last Friday at about 6:15 pm! This led to delays on Queens Blvd local service because the M was crippled and Queens relies on the M.

With the last day of school approaching, I think kids will increase their surfing activity just to bond before summer recess.

You would think these kids would be smart enough to canvass the area and look for obstructions like the beams on the Willy B. They pick the most dangerous spots (not the that it's totally safe without obstructions).

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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun May 24 01:43:16 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 23 21:49:12 2026.

Still not right....damm mental strain on top of what the train crew just experienced

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 24 02:13:44 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Sun May 24 01:43:16 2026.

They do the urine tests to back themselves up when lawsuits are filed against them.

NYCT wants to show that they are clean. And I'm sure they are.

As BFM points out, it's a shame they keep the T/O and C/R in an assignment other than their picked job and treat them as guilty.



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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun May 24 05:10:06 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat May 23 10:35:04 2026.

Yep!

They think they are "cool" trying to do this, but we know otherwise.

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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun May 24 05:12:35 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 23 13:56:21 2026.

Not surprising:

Too many people are stupid and will do stupid things the T/O likely can't do anything about short of holding the train in place and calling police if they see it at all.

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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun May 24 05:14:52 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 24 02:13:44 2026.

I suspect they have to or otherwise they would be faced with more lawsuits, including from family members who think the person who died is a "good person" and their name is being smeared because the T/O is back at work after proving a clean test.

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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun May 24 05:16:25 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 23 23:00:34 2026.

And IMO they do it to look "hip" not understanding the consequences.

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Posted by Railman718 on Sun May 24 06:06:01 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

One was 18 the other was 14..

That 18 year old will spend the rest of his thinking about the dumb choice he made that also got his friend killed..

Oh and it wasn’t just two of them they always travel in packs there was a few more train car cameras will show who was with them..

BTW could it be the same ones who was doing it the Friday before when they shut down train traffic on the Willy B?

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 24 09:23:15 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 23 21:49:12 2026.

One way to look at it is that they are still on the clock while restricted and will not have to deal with another surfing incident while restricted. But I assume that it will be a straight 40 week & no OT. Loss of the overtime would be the big downside.


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Posted by Avid reader on Sun May 24 11:09:55 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 24 09:23:15 2026.

So, maybe TV surveillance cameras should be placed where the trains start on to the bridge and trigger a halt to stop the train.

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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun May 24 14:27:38 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 18:34:59 2026.



Bill: What they should post on social media is the aftermath of these stupid stunts. Let them show the mangled bodies. Then let them see the grieving parents. That might have an impact.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 24 15:21:26 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun May 24 14:27:38 2026.

The howls from the bereaved would be audible across the country if they were in any way identifiable.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun May 24 15:47:17 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 23 18:34:59 2026.

It's either this or do the nationwide "Teen" takeovers.

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun May 24 16:45:44 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun May 24 14:27:38 2026.

Way back when, they used to show a video entitled " Unsafe at Any Speed", during driver ed classes. It was a gory film showing the greusome aftermath of auto accidents. Made quite an impression thatblasted anout 36 hours.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 24 16:46:55 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Sun May 24 06:06:01 2026.

I'm sure the 18 yr old will not even give a shit a few years from now, that is, if he's still alive.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 01:26:17 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun May 24 16:45:44 2026.

That was the name of Ralph Nader's propaganda film, which was about what happened when you inflated the tires on the Chevrolet Corvair incorrectly (but Nader neglected to say that).

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon May 25 08:34:11 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

The bottom line is that every surfer knows that surfing is dangerous, that there is a significant risk of injury or death from surfing. Otherwise, what is the point? All you can do is say dont do it for those reasons but inderstand that stupidity will likely win out.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon May 25 11:04:09 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Avid reader on Sun May 24 11:09:55 2026.

...or maybe razor ribbon at the top end of each car.

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Posted by Jailhousedoc on Mon May 25 17:33:45 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon May 25 08:34:11 2026.

I saw on a video made in Brazil years ago teenagers surfing on top of a railroad passenger car right next to the high votage catenary wire ! In Brazil the overhead is higher voltage than on the Northeast Corridor - yet the kids still go for it. I cannot explain the mentality. No girl can fall in love with a dead boy.

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon May 25 17:49:44 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Jailhousedoc on Mon May 25 17:33:45 2026.

The danger is the appeal, apparently.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 25 21:23:58 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun May 24 05:16:25 2026.

I agree. They do it to bond. Like upper-middle class kids used to cruise around in nice cars and clothing, or have keg parties, go to the beach, etc.........

These kids who are surfing are lower-income and probably aren't going to their prom in June, so this is all they have to look forward to.

I feel bad for them and wish they saw things like we do.



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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:46:25 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 25 21:23:58 2026.

We walked the roadbed on the outside trench and embankment of the Sea Beach. Walked the catwalks om the West End elevated, and the tunnels of the 4th Avenue lines. Good times!!!

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Posted by Railman718 on Wed May 27 06:52:34 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

Oh BTW they was there on the J train surfing again this past Friday kids body wasn’t even cold and the nimrods was out there…

I’m so glad I went switching..

I’ll be even happier in a few months when I..

A. Retire

B. Move outta this god forsaken state…

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed May 27 07:00:24 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Wed May 27 06:52:34 2026.

On ther other hand, surfing has an upside. We can always use fresh organ donors.

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed May 27 07:00:35 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Wed May 27 06:52:34 2026.

On ther other hand, surfing has an upside. We can always use fresh organ donors.

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Posted by Railman718 on Wed May 27 10:39:19 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed May 27 07:00:24 2026.

A minor has to have an adult to sign off on it..

The other one (18 years old at THAT dont get me started) unless he had a drivers license and signed off on it in the back it not sure if he could.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 21 14:46:40 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

I wonder why kids were using The Williamsburg Bridge for their games?

These are city kids. They are smart enough to know that there are obstructions on the bridge between Essex and Marcy.

So why subwaysurf there? I'm guessing there is a challenge to it. Maybe the game is to climb up, run a car length then climb down? Something like that.

These kids have to know about the bridge trusses and beams so there must be a reason they still do it.

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Posted by gbs on Sun Jun 21 23:31:39 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 21 14:46:40 2026.


I saw a group of them once several years ago while I was biking over the bridge. They were using the long straight stretch on the incline of the bridge approach on the Brooklyn side, between the curve over the bus terminal and the stiffening truss which starts near Kent Av. It's about 1800' of straight track with no obstructions at all.

Because it's part of the bridge, the reports say they're on the bridge, but they're on the approach, not the bridge itself. Because of the incline the trains don't go especially fast in either direction, but I still can't believe how reckless they were, jumping and running back and forth and leaping from car to car, sometimes passing each other.

For a while they were using parts of the #7 line. One was once killed near Rawson St, and our train was delayed while they retrieved the body. Later, as our train approached Citifield we heard others running on top of our train. It was so strange hearing footsteps and pounding on the roof of a subway car.




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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 22 01:40:28 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by gbs on Sun Jun 21 23:31:39 2026.

I think some of the recent Williamsburg surfers were starting on the Manhattan side and then going to the roof, where a bunch of obstructions are present.

At least in your case on the Williamsburg Bridge they were smart enough to do it after clearing obstructions.

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 22 07:48:58 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 22 01:40:28 2026.

Leave us not see surfing so harshly. One day you may be faced with the need for a kidney or other vital organ.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 23 14:15:32 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

My grandfather's generation: died to save world from fascism and communism

My grandchild's generation: died for TikTok clout

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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 23 22:03:19 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 23 14:15:32 2026.

Never mind the illiteracy rate going up again.

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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 09:13:36 2026, in response to DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 23:11:21 2026.

They was out there on the 7 J F acting up this past Thursday and Friday doing what?

SURFING..

Guess they wanna get their last thrill in before those school passes stop working..

If these idiots don’t care about their lives why should we?

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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 27 14:02:22 2026, in response to Re: DAMM WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 09:13:36 2026.

Guess they wanna get their last thrill in before those school passes stop working

Emphasis on "last".

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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 14:09:03 2026, in response to Re: DAMN WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 27 14:02:22 2026.

If they die the die… 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 14:49:25 2026, in response to Re: DAMN WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 14:09:03 2026.

*They

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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 27 15:26:30 2026, in response to Re: DAMN WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 14:09:03 2026.

Drago agrees.



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Re: DAMN WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 27 21:37:03 2026, in response to Re: DAMN WITH THE SUBWAY SURFING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 27 15:26:30 2026.

Word…

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