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[PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025 This photo taken in Coney Island yard on November 9, 1968 raises two questions. Question #1. The early R-40 slants were renumbered, so was this car number originally #4282 ? Question #2. Were these pictured cars delivered from the St.Louis Car Co with or without pantograph gates installed ?
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by r17-6599* on Mon Nov 24 14:00:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40 slants came w/o gates.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Mon Nov 24 15:10:32 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* All of that unsightly hardware was added later on.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by irtredbirdr33* on Mon Nov 24 21:29:11 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* Bill: This picture was taken in 1968. So the original number was 4482. It was re-numbered to 4382 in 1970. Before the cars entered service they were displayed at 34th Street, I believe. They lack any frontal hardware. When they first entered service the low railing was installed. Later on the started adding more and more hardware. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Mon Nov 24 21:55:51 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* 4150-4249 retained their original numbers. Fan cars. Westinghouse. 4250-4349 got changed to 4450-4549. These were the modifides. Air conditioned cars. Westinghouse. 4350-4449 got changed to 4250-4349. Fan cars. G.E's 4450-4549 got changed to 4350-4449 Air conditioned cars. G.E's The ugly gates were installed at CIYD.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by gbs* on Mon Nov 24 23:31:32 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 24 21:55:51 2025.* Shortly after the slants arrived, my brother and I rode them on the F in Queens, and we moved from car to car between Queens Plaza and Roosevelt Av, and with only the low hand-holds, we were pretty scared, because you were really out there with very little protection or barriers, and it was a long way from one car door to the other and no grab bars within reach. They were ugly as delivered and even uglier after the modifications. Their replacements, the R40Ms, were among the most beautiful ever delivered. April, 1968, low hand-holds only: August, 1968, low hand-holds and pantograph gates: December, 1968, high hand-holds and chains, and pantograph gates: September, 1968:
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Mon Nov 24 23:38:52 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by gbs on Mon Nov 24 23:31:32 2025.* Thanks. Great shots of the early days. I liked the "mods" much more than the R42's, especially post GOH when they were in solid trains on the J line.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Tue Nov 25 00:45:53 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 24 21:55:51 2025.* early on I remember someone standing on the mini shelf.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by W.B.* on Tue Nov 25 02:40:36 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Mon Nov 24 21:29:11 2025.* Ya' beat me to it. I was about to mention this was one of the A/C slants. Yep, this was one of the group originally numbered 4450-4549, before being shifted to 4350-4549.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by randyo* on Tue Nov 25 03:54:10 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* I have my doubts as to the date of the photo since I don’t recall the cars being retrofitted with the safety bars and pantograph gates that early.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Nov 25 06:45:49 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 25 03:54:10 2025.* I have my doubts as to the date of the photo since I don’t recall the cars being retrofitted with the safety bars and pantograph gates that early. That was the date rubber stamped on the 35mm slide. Unless it was an error. Bill M.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Nov 25 06:49:17 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Mon Nov 24 21:29:11 2025.* ill: This picture was taken in 1968. So the original number was 4482. It was re-numbered to 4382 in 1970. Thanks Larry. That renumbering fiasco can sometimes be confusing. Bill M.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by irtredbirdr33* on Tue Nov 25 06:57:04 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by gbs on Mon Nov 24 23:31:32 2025.* Thank you for these photographs. I always liked the large route letter roll-sign on the front of the train. Larry,RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Tue Nov 25 08:50:25 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Mon Nov 24 21:29:11 2025.* If Wayne were still with us, he'd be offering his own observations, I'm sure.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Tue Nov 25 09:26:35 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Nov 25 06:57:04 2025.* Speaking of which, I didn't notice those huge signs initially, believe it or not. We were waiting at 34th St.-Herald Square when a new slant Fred train pulled in. My mother remarked, "That's an F train," and I asked, "How can you tell?" She pointed out the large magenta F. I had gotten so used to looking above the storm door for route and destination signs that I totally missed it. My sister liked the slants even though she is definitely not a subway buff, as we rode that train one stop to 42nd St., where we changed to a D.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Nov 25 19:25:34 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40S are one of my favorite car classes, along with the R10/12/14 and the R15s
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Nov 25 19:25:39 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* The R40S are one of my favorite car classes, along with the R10/12/14 and the R15s
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Nov 25 20:18:14 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 25 19:25:39 2025.* What do you like about those IRT classes?
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Wallyhorse* on Tue Dec 16 14:25:21 2025, in response to [PHOTO] R-40 "Slant" #4482, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 24 13:55:34 2025.* Another where the picture was deleted since the site went down.
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Dec 16 20:25:32 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 25 19:25:39 2025.* Their porthole look
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Dec 16 20:26:21 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 16 20:25:32 2025.* On the 15/16/17s
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Dec 16 20:55:09 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 16 20:26:21 2025.* Why do you like those trains? I guess you grew up on them in Brooklyn?
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Dec 17 01:46:44 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 16 20:55:09 2025.* No, my Sea Beach was mostly R32s. R16s were RARE
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Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482
Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Wed Dec 17 02:11:54 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-40 ''Slant'' #4482, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 25 09:26:35 2025.* I have always appreciated the giant letter/color coded background. Great for those of us with poor eyesight.
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