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Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025 link |
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Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 14 23:56:35 2025, in response to Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025. Loyal local 100 members take note of who your union supported and ask yourself about what theybwill getbfor supporting her next year. |
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Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 15 03:22:56 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 14 23:56:35 2025. I heard somewhere that in Canada, trains operate with 2 operators. In one direction, operator #1 operates the controls and operator #2 works the doors. On return trips, operator #2 operates the controls and operator #1 woeks the doors. |
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Re: Gov Hochul to decide on entrenching union rent-seeking into law |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 15 03:24:58 2025, in response to Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025. She’s not deciding whether to eliminate conductors, she’s deciding whether to force them to have 2 man crews for all time or not. She should veto this. |
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Re: Gov Hochul to decide on entrenching union rent-seeking into law |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 07:06:33 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on entrenching union rent-seeking into law, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 15 03:24:58 2025. She’s not deciding whether to eliminate conductors, she’s deciding whether to force them to have 2 man crews for all time or not. She should veto this.With Exceptions not all of the Lines will fall under this. Current OPTO Rules will stay as they are Such as the Shuttles. This is just More of the fact that a 8 car Mikey Train wont be going OPTO from CTL to Met during the Rush Hour. If she passes it she does if she dont she dont. A lot of us aren't holding our breath either. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 07:08:55 2025, in response to Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025. Try reading the Bill Luch before making such a bating headline..This was in the works since Lobby day of March... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 07:10:55 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 14 23:56:35 2025. TD most of us aren't holding our breath on it passing..Yet what's in play is this.. Current OPTO Rules will stay as they are Such as the Shuttles. This is just More of the fact that a 8 car Mikey Train wont be going OPTO from CTL to Met during the Rush Hour. Yet it can STILL be put in the Contract IF she dont pass the Bill and if the Union OKs it.. That's another story. |
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Posted by jabrams on Sat Nov 15 10:06:10 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 15 03:22:56 2025. Wasn't that done on the Times Square Shuttle previously. I don't know since they lengthened the trains now to 6 cars. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 11:30:52 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by jabrams on Sat Nov 15 10:06:10 2025. They still gave the same procedure a T/O on both ends. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 15 11:44:57 2025, in response to Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025. Here's a link to a summary that shows various operations.https://transitcosts.com/Train_Operations.pdf |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 15 14:03:48 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 15 11:44:57 2025. Thank you. I wonder why properties from the United States are not listed? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 14:48:54 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 15 14:03:48 2025. Those areas people respect the system don’t break equipment jumpOn tracks assault transit workers and other passengers.. The mindset in those areas are nothing like the mindset in NYC.. Night and day. That’s the main issue with this Bill worker and passenger safety.. Some Folks can say whatever they want how “it works in other areas”… |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 15 15:15:35 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 14:48:54 2025. In the late 60s when i lived by Tompkins Square Park there were transit police on every train and platform 8P-4A IIRC. And we were able to walk from car to car for our perception of safety. In recent years BART (where I live) has had more troublesome pax--particularly during covid. Increased BART Police and an ambassador program hasimproved the situation. In any city with serious homeless, junkie issues, keeping civil order on transit is problematic. That said, expecting the transit service to cure a citywide problem is lame at best. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 15:46:09 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 15 15:15:35 2025. It’s a NYC problem not a MTA problem not disputing that but unknown to others we have been trained in certain areas how to handle certain situations. There are protocols in place. Which have helped I cannot speak on San Fran because I never rode their system or been involved with thier procedures.. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 15 16:55:06 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 14:48:54 2025. Huh? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 17:17:35 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 14:48:54 2025. Couldn’t have explained it any easier what don’t you understand? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 15 18:18:56 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 15 15:15:35 2025. IMO only, each train should have a motor manual, a conductor,and a patrolman. Motorman up front conductor in the middle, patrolman in the back. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 15 18:19:17 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 15 15:15:35 2025. IMO only, each train should have a motorman, a conductor,and a patrolman. Motorman up front conductor in the middle, patrolman in the back. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 15 18:22:19 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 14:48:54 2025. Although, even that wouldn't stop the perps. They sized up the older, fat cop, still snatched the jewelry, pocketbook, and off they went in their Felony Fliers, knowing once they're out of the "hole" and disperse, chances are they will not get caught. That's why the experienced cops had rocks, metal bolts z bits, etx..etc... in the we ir po c kets to thro a at them and hopefully hit them in their head. So e threw the "brick" (radio) or their stick as well. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 15 18:30:18 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 14:48:54 2025. Although, even that wouldn't stop the perps. They sized up the older, fat cop, still snatched the jewelry, pocketbook, and off they went in their Felony Fliers, knowing once they're out of the "hole" and disperse, chances are they will not get caught. That's why the experienced cops had rocks, metal bolts nuts, etx..etc... in their pockets to throw at them and hopefully hit them in their head. So e threw the "brick" (radio) or their stick as well. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 15 18:38:36 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 15 18:18:56 2025. I think the patrolperson should move around as they did back in the 60s. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 18:49:06 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 15 18:22:19 2025. It’s not about “stopping” anything we don’t get paid for that.. Yet I doubt someone will go in a car filled with people and act up… These trains are different now these people are different..Seen it myself. |
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Posted by Numbersix on Sat Nov 15 19:42:43 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 14 23:56:35 2025. Replace conductors with insulators. A lot safer. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 15 19:53:00 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Numbersix on Sat Nov 15 19:42:43 2025. Bad. Very bad. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 15 19:58:14 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Numbersix on Sat Nov 15 19:42:43 2025. If you were on the gong show, that one would earn you a big gong |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 15 19:59:59 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 07:10:55 2025. Thank you for the insight |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 20:13:28 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 15 19:59:59 2025. It’s basically a no bones situation if others can’t see it it’s because they don’t want too..Yet here those types are… On a Buff site and not in a position to give ideas or solutions. They’ll be alright in time it won’t matter to me… |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Nov 16 13:39:02 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by Railman718 on Sat Nov 15 07:10:55 2025. It shouldn't be a discussion. TWU lost the argument against its start on asking for cash instead of denending the conductors on train safety. System safety affirmed that notion when TA list at arbitration on full length L train OPTO |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Nov 16 22:04:36 2025, in response to Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025. Good. The governor is the foremost expert and should be in charge of how to run a train. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 17 04:59:38 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Nov 16 13:39:02 2025. Man the union YOU KNEW and the one that’s in now…Night and Day it don’t exist anymore. 12 months and counting.. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Nov 17 15:06:49 2025, in response to Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 14 23:38:29 2025. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 18 02:09:31 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul to decide on getting rid of conductors, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 14 23:56:35 2025. I’m not sure if it is necessary to worry. From what I read about the margin the legislature passed it by, it seems to be veto proof. |
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