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Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 22 03:48:39 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Oct 21 13:53:50 2025. Well . . . I just looked up some sample fares on Amtrak from 1972; from NYP to Philly was $5.25, which works out to $41.38 in 2025 dollars. But you can ride in coach on Northeast Regional for as low as $15. (Meanwhile, NJT from NYP to Trenton is $19.25 and SEPTA from Trenton to Center City is $13, for a total of $32.25 one way on the "cheaper" commuter rail option.) |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Oct 22 07:59:46 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Oct 21 16:30:55 2025. There will be fewer Amtrak trains when they start working on the tunnel. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 08:29:01 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 21 19:49:44 2025. Not necessarily. Too many people had been killed or injured by drunk drivers. It was a source of jokes for late night comedians until it was your child or parent or friend who was killed by a drunk driver. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026 |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Oct 22 11:04:48 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 21 15:56:30 2025. Millerton didn't want the service and the ROW was already a bike path or whatever it is now |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 22 12:17:32 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by sloth on Wed Oct 22 11:04:48 2025. Millerton didn't want the serviceThat sounds very plausible. My point was that the MTA jurisdiction issue didn't apply because Millerton is in Dutchess County. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 22 13:28:56 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by sloth on Wed Oct 22 11:04:48 2025. Politicians are the ones that create NIMBYism. And the train doesn't have to stop there.The irony is that Millerton is named after the man who brought the railroad to that area, one Sidney Miller, a railroad contractor. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 13:31:59 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 22 12:17:32 2025. You're probably right about that. Many of the towns upstate down want the traffic jams and huge parking lots that go with the railroad stations. Wassaic though is literally in the middle of nowhere. I believe that a great deal of the ridership there comes from Connecticut. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 14:07:32 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 13:31:59 2025. As far as I know, most of the NYC or lower Westchester crowd that comes from Connecticut goes to Brewster North (sorry Southeast). Southeast is another station that's in the middle of nowhere. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 15:24:15 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 14:07:32 2025. This is true. But at least when it was called "Brester North" we knew where it was. Where the hell is Southeast? Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026 |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:28:33 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Oct 22 07:59:46 2025. They’ve already started. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:30:13 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 21 20:57:26 2025. There’s active consideration for Hudson Line trains to go into Penn via the Empire Connection. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:33:47 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 21 20:24:44 2025. The person injured still has to prove that the liquor was sold to a “visibly intoxicated” person. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:36:09 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 21 20:53:18 2025. Hahahah! This law was enacted in 1873. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:40:08 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 15:24:15 2025. Southeast of Northwest! |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:40:35 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 14:07:32 2025. Different part of CT. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:41:53 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 21 20:24:44 2025. The funny thing is, that law has been in existence since 1873. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 22 16:52:58 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:30:13 2025. Oh no. You've set the stage for another Olog rant. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 22 17:00:34 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 15:24:15 2025. Southeast is the name of the township. Dates back to 1797 apparently. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 17:52:37 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:41:53 2025. What I don't know if that law is the same in both NY & Conn. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 17:54:14 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Oct 22 16:33:47 2025. That all comes out in the investigation, be it of property damage or injury or both. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Oct 22 20:54:27 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 14:07:32 2025. As far as I know, most of the NYC or lower Westchester crowd that comes from Connecticut goes to Brewster North (sorry Southeast). Southeast is another station that's in the middle of nowhere. Southeast does have a huge parking lot. It is also directly off I-84. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Oct 23 13:32:58 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 17:54:14 2025. Right, but it’s not automatic liability. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 23 18:28:09 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 20 19:35:33 2025. Time Out NY says the fare is going to be $40. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 24 03:12:23 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 22 16:52:58 2025. Actually, when Peter Stangl was MTA Chairman, and the plans for Amtrak access to Penn was announced, he mentioned the possibility of Metro North using that line for Metro North to also access Penn. |
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Posted by Allen45 on Fri Oct 24 10:17:48 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 17:52:37 2025. There should have still been some cafe car service or social car to keep up the tradition |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 11:16:48 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Allen45 on Fri Oct 24 10:17:48 2025. I agree. On the Hudson Line, Shoreliner car #6152 (Poughkeepsie) came fron the factory as a standard coach. It was converted to a bar car by ripping out several rows of seats and Bolting in a platform bar to the floor and a few luggage racks for standing room. There were many a good times had back in those days. I met a few life long friends there. One time they had a retirement party for a regular and hired a stripper for the occasion (with a nice contribution to the conductor to look the other way).The beginning of the end for the Hudson Line bar car was the smoking ban in the late 80s. Back then, who ever heard of a bar that you couldn't smoke in? MN commissary even sold cigarettes (Marlboro red pack and Newports IIRC) Initially it was ignored until they planted plainclothes MN police which started to hand out $50 tickets. Caught employees were brought up on charges with discipline of 10 day record suspensions. So little by little they blanked the bartenders job until the job was abolished outright. Then they ripped out the floor bolted bar and reinstalled seats where the bar was. Last time I rode in #6152 if you look closely on the river side of the car, you can see the patched up holes in the middle of the coach above the window where the NYS liquor license was bolted in. All good things really do come to an end:( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 00:38:03 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by randyo on Fri Oct 24 03:12:23 2025. Of course he did. Absolutely no chance of that happening though. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 10:37:55 2025, in response to Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 20 15:18:29 2025. It’s a start, a very very welcome start. The price point is competitive with Amtrak's months-ahead reservation pricing, and it doesn't require reservations. If you live up here and need/want to go to the city on short notice it'll be a godsend. I know I’ll be using it.The single daily trip thing will NOT last for long. It’s anticipated to be a full fledged service within a very short time. Ridership and demand will see to that. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat Oct 25 11:54:17 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 10:37:55 2025. Its nice to hear from you bingbong. I still miss my old pal Selkirk. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 12:11:56 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat Oct 25 11:54:17 2025. So do I… |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Sat Oct 25 16:28:43 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 25 00:38:03 2025. It’s part of MTA’s 20-year needs assessment, which I’m sure you haven’t read. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Sat Oct 25 16:29:19 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 12:11:56 2025. We all do. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 17:01:38 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 21 15:53:55 2025. Not really. I've been doing it for much of the summer and I tell ya, it sucks! Amtrak is too expensive on a short notice basis (up to $100+ if there’s a seat to had) and the traffic over the MidHudson bridge can be murderous at times, usually when you're trying to get to a train on time. All that driving gets to be a drag. It’s three hours out (both directions) of your day.Wish they thought of it sooner. Like six months ago. Getting on a train directly from Albany to NYC without the extortionate fare has long been a dream for many around here. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 18:38:38 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 21 15:53:55 2025. Albany to NYC and back works with driving to Poughkeepsie. But even then you're driving half way (admittedly the easy half).NYC to Albany doesn't work by taking a train to Poughkeepsie doesn't work. There's no car rental at the railroad station. To the best of my knowledge, the only MNRR stations that have car rentals nearby are New Rochelle, Stamford, Scarsdale, and North White Plains. Those do come in handy because the prices are often less than rentals in NYC. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 25 20:35:03 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Sat Oct 25 16:29:19 2025. yes. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 25 20:36:46 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 17:01:38 2025. Something for Hochul to push on Amtrak to vlean up. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 26 08:41:01 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 25 20:36:46 2025. They could mitigate it by adding cars to each train, or more trains. But do they have the rolling stock? Getting new would only put pressure on already high fares.The MTA seems to have an easier time with seeking funding. Makes for a better position to expand. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 26 09:00:17 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sat Oct 25 11:54:17 2025. I miss him, too. Nice to hear from you! |
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Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026 |
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Posted by ro_jo on Sun Oct 26 10:17:48 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Oct 21 08:23:18 2025. A legislative change may not be needed if the service is run as a contracted operation of NYSDOT, similar to how most of the New Haven Line is a contracted operation of CTDOT. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 12:14:49 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Sat Oct 25 16:28:43 2025. And the New Haven Penn Station access is actually under construction. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 26 13:08:18 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by ro_jo on Sun Oct 26 10:17:48 2025. Do we know that the transfer from Conrail to MTA did not require any legislation? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 13:54:37 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 25 17:01:38 2025. src="https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/8f6ed31f-42e7-4dcb-ba3a-99f4db84330e/embed?autoplay=false&responsive=true" frameborder="0" > |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Oct 26 15:10:52 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 12:14:49 2025. Right. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Oct 26 15:11:28 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 12:14:49 2025. Right. Which Olog said multiple times would never happen. |
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Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 26 18:33:03 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 13:54:37 2025. WTF Willis? |
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Posted by Joe on Sun Oct 26 20:58:39 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 26 18:33:03 2025. Does Rennselaer have high-level platforms? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 26 22:26:29 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by Joe on Sun Oct 26 20:58:39 2025. Yes, since 2002. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 27 10:21:48 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 18:38:38 2025. IIRC, Enterprise will park a rental ( pre reserved online) at Poughkeepsie. I think I saw some reserved spots last I was there. Will try to confirm if I have the time tomorrow. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Mon Oct 27 12:47:31 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 12:14:49 2025. The M8 cars will have to use third rail power in order to reach NYP as they are not designed to run on 25Hz AC as that is what the former PRR electrification uses. The New Haven line uses 60Hz AC as it has since the old New Haven RR plant at Cos Cob was retired and the line changed to using commercial power instead. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 27 13:49:45 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by murray1575 on Mon Oct 27 12:47:31 2025. That's why it isn't happening.If there was room in NYP (there isn't), the better way would have to have used Shoreliners with electric locomotives. |
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