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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025 Welcome Back ! This is part one of a two part photo essay of the Hudson & Manhattan Railroad before PATH. Let's begin with an early map of the Hudson & Manhattan Railroad. 1908 view of the completed tunnel with crossover near the 19th St. station. Undated view of the 9th St. station entrance. Class B car #269 posed in a tunnel showing signal apparatus. Class B cars were built in 1909 the Pressed Steel Car Co. Car #256 is preserved at the St. Louis of Museum of Transportation. Postcard of the 14th St. station with ticket choppers at the ready. Note the ornate light fixtures.William Gibbs MacAdoo spared no expense in furnishing his railtoad. Another postcard, this one hand colored of the Hoboken, NJ station.. The 33rd St. station entrance was closed for reconstruction in this photo. Does this have anything to do with relocating the original 33rd St. station for construction of the IND subway ? (undated photo) This should be the H&M Railroad's "Ladies only" Car. The following three scans are covers for the H&M Railroad timetables dated July 1955. A Pennsylvania Railroad MP-38 train is at Hudson Terminal awaiting the trip to Newark, NJ. The cars #1901-#1960 were built by the Pressed Steel Car Co. in 1911 for the extension to Newark, NJ The MP-38s were equipped with cab signaling as all H&M equipment did not. Jersey City, NJ just east of Journal Square with laid up MP-38s and a Pennsylvania Railroad electrified freight train. Are these PRR electric engines P-5s ? (undated photo) Another Jersey City view of laid up MP-38s. (undated photo) MP-38 train just west of Journal Square with the Merrion Ave. grade crossing shown. That grade crossing was closed years ago. (undated photo). MP-38s on the Hackensack River bridge. (undated photo) At the Harrison, NJ station. (undated photo) A color photo of MP-38s leaving Newark, NJ station. Since the MP-38s were PRR ,their signature Tuscan red livery and porthole cab windows are evident. (undated photo) For the last photo of the show is the H&M Henderson St. yard in 1947. This yard was closed when PATH relocated to the Jersey meadows. Next week, more H&M photos as part two. To be followed by a two part show of PATH after the H&M Railroad. Be prepared to be on both sides of the Hudson River for a few weeks. Thanks for viewing.
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Posted by terRAPIN station* on Sun Oct 19 12:19:49 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* Excellent!!! So which were better, Class Bs or MP-38s?
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Posted by W.B.* on Sun Oct 19 13:02:08 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* As to the photo of the 33d Street station being "temporarily closed": That would have been taken some time in 1939, after the old 33d Street terminal was demolished and the new terminus (actually lasting between 30th and 32d Streets) was being built parallel and simultaneous to that of the IND Sixth Avenue subway. That, plus the total absence of the Sixth Avenue el. The logo of Bond Clothes then at 33d and Broadway is another key. Ah, and yes. When H&M indeed meant Hudson & Manhattan and NOT the clothing chain around today (which, ironically, has stores near to PATH termini: at 34th and Broadway, and along Church Street at the current World Trade Center complex).
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Posted by W.B.* on Sun Oct 19 13:02:08 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* As to the photo of the 33d Street station being "temporarily closed": That would have been taken some time in 1939, after the old 33d Street terminal was demolished and the new terminus (actually lasting between 30th and 32d Streets) was being built parallel and simultaneous to that of the IND Sixth Avenue subway. That, plus the total absence of the Sixth Avenue el. The logo of Bond Clothes then at 33d and Broadway is another key. Ah, and yes. When H&M indeed meant Hudson & Manhattan and NOT the clothing chain around today (which, ironically, has stores near to PATH termini: at 34th and Broadway, and along Church Street at the current World Trade Center complex).
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Sun Oct 19 13:23:31 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* Very nice!
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Posted by Q65A* on Sun Oct 19 14:45:30 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* Awesome pix; thanks for sharing!
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Posted by Italianstallion* on Sun Oct 19 15:00:47 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* Headways 3 minutes in rush hours and 5 minutes rest of the day. WOW!
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Sun Oct 19 15:25:32 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* I love how in the ye olden times, they can just put in a non-descript entrance to an underground city and squeeze things wherever (before zoning ruined America). This is in such contrast to China for example where these things have to be a spectacle.
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Posted by murray1575* on Sun Oct 19 15:30:04 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* I wonder if anyone has a picture of the MP-38 which mounted the platform at Exchange Place after derailing some time in the 1940s. Apparently an H&M motorman was operating the train while under the influence of alcohol and proceeded through the sharp turnout entering the station going towards Hudson Terminal at a high speed. If I remember correctly from accounts of the wreck he was prosecuted and imprisoned.
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Posted by X-Astorian* on Sun Oct 19 15:56:43 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by murray1575 on Sun Oct 19 15:30:04 2025.* Still haven't learned to do a hyperlink but here's an easy-to-find article on the 1942 crash. https://fansinaflashbulb.wordpress.com/2019/05/01/as-the-train-came-into-the-station-it-began-lurching-from-side-to-side-then-it-stopped-lights-went-out/
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Posted by W.B.* on Sun Oct 19 17:34:53 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by X-Astorian on Sun Oct 19 15:56:43 2025.* I think I may help . . . 1942 H&M Crash
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 19 18:27:29 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by murray1575 on Sun Oct 19 15:30:04 2025.* I wonder if anyone has a picture of the MP-38 which mounted the platform at Exchange Place after derailing some time in the 1940s.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 19 18:33:10 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by terRAPIN station on Sun Oct 19 12:19:49 2025.* Excellent!!! So which were better, Class Bs or MP-38s? Thanks, I don't really know for sure. Bill M.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 19 18:34:10 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by W.B. on Sun Oct 19 13:02:08 2025.* As to the photo of the 33d Street station being "temporarily closed": That would have been taken some time in 1939, after the old 33d Street terminal was demolished and the new terminus (actually lasting between 30th and 32d Streets) was being built parallel and simultaneous to that of the IND Sixth Avenue subway. That, plus the total absence of the Sixth Avenue el. The logo of Bond Clothes then at 33d and Broadway is another key. Good detective works. Thank you. Bill M.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 19 18:36:00 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Italianstallion on Sun Oct 19 15:00:47 2025.* Headways 3 minutes in rush hours and 5 minutes rest of the day. WOW! That's called rapid transit. Bill M.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 19 18:36:37 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 19 13:23:31 2025.* Very nice! Thank you. Bill M.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Oct 19 18:37:10 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Q65A on Sun Oct 19 14:45:30 2025.* Awesome pix; thanks for sharing! You're welcome. Bill M.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Sun Oct 19 19:49:28 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* Jersey City, NJ just east of Journal Square with laid up MP-38s and a Pennsylvania Railroad electrified freight train. Are these PRR electric engines P-5s ? (undated photo) Yes. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Oct 19 20:31:26 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* Thanks. BTW, Wikipedia says that the Harrison station on that map was on the corner of Fourth and NJRR Avenue, on an elevated RR above the Center Street Branch; never saw a photo of that station.
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Posted by Wallyhorse* on Mon Oct 20 01:20:41 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 10:03:00 2025.* I wonder what they while they were building the still-current high-rise above the 9th Street station since I believe that was and still is the only entrance to that stop.
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Posted by Wallyhorse* on Mon Oct 20 01:28:54 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 19 18:27:29 2025.* That was bad!
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