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Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 5 16:17:03 2025 Today I learned that before the final abandonment of the Rockaway Beach LIRR north of Ozone Park in 1962, the LIRR single-tracked the Parkside and Brooklyn Manor stations. Makes sense considering the lack of service on the line by the end. I had always thought the line remained double tracked until it was closed. Of course, whatever remained of those two stations are long gone.
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Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Andy* on Mon May 5 22:11:45 2025, in response to Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 5 16:17:03 2025.* I believe it was around 1958 when the old Rockaway Beach Branch LIRR became a single track operation. The single track began just east of the White Pot Junction under jump (where the RBB diverged from the LIRR Main Line about a mile west of Forest Hills) and was controlled by a spring switch. All trains used the normal Manhattan-bound track, creating single-track stations at Parkside, Brooklyn Manor, Woodhaven, and Ozone Park. There were two trains in each direction till about 1960, and then it was one in each direction till the final closure on June 8, 1962. In the morning peak, an eastbound equipment train came from Penn Station to represent a westbound train at Ozone Park. In the evening peak, the eastbound revenue train from Penn to Ozone Park returned to Penn as an equipment move. I have an operating timetable from 1961 that shows a westbound revenue train leaving Ozone Park at 7:49 AM (#2213); the PM train left Penn at 5:37 PM (#2234). Immediately afterward, Green Bus Lines began an express bus route between Ozone Park and Penn Station making the old LIRR station stops. It could be seen on 33rd Street outside of Penn in the PM rush , departing at 5:30 PM every weekday evening.
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Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition Photo
Posted by Avid Reader* on Tue May 6 08:46:09 2025, in response to Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Andy on Mon May 5 22:11:45 2025.* Gone but still a memory.
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Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition Photos
Posted by Avid Reader* on Tue May 6 08:50:37 2025, in response to Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 5 16:17:03 2025.* lest we forget what once was.
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Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition Photos
Posted by TUNNELRAT* on Tue May 6 09:16:00 2025, in response to Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 6 08:50:37 2025.* me uncle steve & bride kasia lived right around the corner at 68-21 olcott st.I spent time at this station.never saw a train.
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[PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue May 6 09:31:36 2025, in response to Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Andy on Mon May 5 22:11:45 2025.* Evidence of single track operation.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Avid Reader* on Tue May 6 09:36:39 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 6 09:31:36 2025.* Was this photo taken near Forest Park?
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Catfish 44* on Tue May 6 10:51:15 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 6 09:31:36 2025.* Wow What are the details behind this photo?
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by sloth* on Tue May 6 11:24:58 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 6 09:36:39 2025.* Just north of Myrtle Ave looking south?
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue May 6 15:53:56 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by sloth on Tue May 6 11:24:58 2025.* ust north of Myrtle Ave looking south? I did a Google Earth satellite view and the photographer who took that picture was on the Myrtle Ave bridge. Bill M.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue May 6 15:56:25 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue May 6 10:51:15 2025.* What are the details behind this photo? I did a Google Earth satellite view and the photographer who took that picture was on the Myrtle Ave bridge. Looking south towards Ozone Park. Bill M.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Catfish 44* on Tue May 6 22:54:59 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 6 15:56:25 2025.* Beauty Thank you!
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed May 7 12:56:56 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 6 09:31:36 2025.* How sad. To think this could've been transformed into a JFK express train with a few modifications, not necessarily underground but a good idea if it were.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Mitch45* on Wed May 7 13:07:58 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 7 12:56:56 2025.* It still could be. There’s no political will.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Mitch45* on Wed May 7 13:08:02 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 7 12:56:56 2025.* It still could be. There’s no political will.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed May 7 13:17:59 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Mitch45 on Wed May 7 13:07:58 2025.* and the $$$
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed May 7 13:18:59 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 7 13:17:59 2025.* The private sector is not short on money.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed May 7 13:22:55 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 7 13:18:59 2025.* They are short on the willingness to spend.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed May 7 14:24:33 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 7 13:22:55 2025.* Not that either. The government shuts them out.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed May 7 16:33:37 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 7 14:24:33 2025.* If the Govt (aka local politicians) wanted it bad enough coupled with a public outcry for the line, the line would have been up and running by now. That never happened. Green and Triboro bus routes to the Rockaways seemed to work out as a replacement. However, A prime example of a politician wanting something bad enough that it became a crusade was Bloomburg's pet project of extending the #7 to Hudson Yars. He got what he wanted. Another example was then Gov Cuomo wanting an Airtrain to/from LaGuardia. Had he not been shamed out of office, some form of LaGuardia Airtrain would be up and running by now. Point being, the Govt calls all the shots with taxpayer funded projects.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu May 8 02:44:40 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 7 16:33:37 2025.* If the Govt (aka local politicians) wanted it bad enough coupled with a public outcry for the line, the line would have been up and running by now LOL, when was the last time the government listened to "public outcry"? The only such "outcry" they listen to is that of NIMBYs.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu May 8 08:30:15 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 8 02:44:40 2025.* "when was the last time the government listened to "public outcry"?" When resuming Woodside as an express stop on the #7. THe locals plus LIRR commuters screamed like hell when the boneheads at the MTA tried to make 61-Woodside a local only stop. This resulted in jammed locals west of Woodside between 52-Lincoln Ave & Rawson St. Often those pax had to let two or three trains pass before they could find one where they could squeeze into. The brass at the MTA (aka politicians) listened and Woodside got its express stop status back.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Jailhousedoc* on Thu May 8 12:59:33 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 8 08:30:15 2025.* Speaking about 61st / Woodside, when will the current work at the station be done ? I has been a couple of years now ( maybe more ) and I was wondering how things were progressing.
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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu May 8 13:59:24 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Today I Learned, LIRR Edition, posted by Jailhousedoc on Thu May 8 12:59:33 2025.* Text time in town I'll let you know.
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