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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:33:48 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 20:17:21 2022.

Regarding his return, my point is that once he gets to NYC he can use whatever travel arrangements were originally planned. Once there it no longer matters how he got there.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 20:34:13 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 19 18:46:33 2022.

IIRC there was even a pic of perhaps Biden when a candidate riding so.
That said, my point remains, I think it would have been they who favored auto over rail. Not saying Pete shouldn't have booked rail to begin with, but if the destination were near LaGuardia...

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:36:58 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 20:32:26 2022.

My opinion is based on actual travel times, not fictitious and inaccurate itineraries. My statement stands for real world travel options between nyc and dc.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 20:38:20 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 19:01:43 2022.

Are you applying to my kill file? Not much "peace", sir.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 20:41:13 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:33:48 2022.

Once there it no longer matters how he got there.

Not if his car is parked at the airport because that's where he was when he found out his flight was canceled.

We just don't know enough.



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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 20:43:27 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:36:58 2022.

But for DC to NY, the actual travel times from airport to airport are always far less than half the trip.

Even the times from train station to train station can be hardly more than half the trip.

So the real world is very complicated.



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Re: Buttigieg is a moron ? Or is the OP(on-topic)

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 20:45:52 2022, in response to Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 07:41:49 2022.

Wow.
Just..wow.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:53:26 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 20:43:27 2022.

I'm talking door to door. If his destination was midtown Manhattan, then the train is certainly faster. Same for the plane if his destination was an airport, which is possible given his position.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:56:29 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 20:41:13 2022.

I very much doubt that secure government vehicles are parked and left unsecured at airports.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 21:09:51 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:56:29 2022.

IKR!

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 21:10:52 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 20:38:20 2022.

You’re only realizing this now?

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 21:21:21 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:53:26 2022.

If his destination was midtown Manhattan, then the train is certainly faster.

Yes, I said that about 8 posts ago.

It may turn out he was going from downtown to downtown, in which case he is a fool.



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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 19 21:21:56 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 19:01:36 2022.

Just think, in 2024 it might be him v/s Trump or DeSantis.

Who do you like??

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 21:22:15 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 18:24:27 2022.

Yup.
And That is the entire point.
SS won't ride the rails if given a choice.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 21:23:00 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 19 21:21:56 2022.

DeSantis.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 19 21:28:57 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 21:23:00 2022.

I agree.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 21:32:43 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 16:41:03 2022.

{sigh}

He's a Cabinet member. He would have been met at NYP and driven in a government car staffed by a driver and security, to wherever he needed to go.

I'm assuming he was traveling on government business.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 21:36:10 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 21:10:52 2022.

sometimes I forget the BS quotient here is very high. For example, In my view making insults out of people's surnames is in extremely bad taste. Yet one regular violator in that area often has highly useful info because he had years of employment in the TA despite his professed contempt for socialism.


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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:38:10 2022, in response to Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 07:41:49 2022.

I think you’re the moron. What right do you have to criticize a busy guy as to how he chooses to travel? Maybe none of the scheduled trains worked for him. If he was at the airport when the flight was cancelled, it was probably far more convenient to hop a rental car right at the airport than schlep into Union Station and wait for the train.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:39:31 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 13:45:30 2022.

You are spot on. The morons are the ones criticizing him.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:39:50 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Jun 19 12:42:53 2022.

Great point.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:41:29 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 15:02:19 2022.

Not if they don’t know when he is driving! Sheesh.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron ? Or is the OP(on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:43:47 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron ? Or is the OP(on-topic), posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 20:45:52 2022.

IAWTP

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:44:26 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 21:36:10 2022.

Good one.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:45:27 2022, in response to Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 07:41:49 2022.

I think you’re the moron. What right do you have to criticize a busy guy as to how he chooses to travel? Maybe none of the scheduled trains worked for him. If he was at the airport when the flight was cancelled, it was probably far more convenient to hop a rental car right at the airport than schlep into Union Station and wait for the train.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 19 21:52:00 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 21:36:10 2022.

lol. It seems that they finally let you use the dayroom computer!

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 22:06:11 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 19 21:28:57 2022.

He may come off rough around the edges,but I see his potential to do the right things.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 19 22:06:41 2022, in response to Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 07:41:49 2022.

2 hrs 35 min by Acela express.
4-6 hours to drive.

Good choice, buttjudge

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 19 22:25:17 2022, in response to Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 07:41:49 2022.

And they're electric trains too . . .

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 22:41:21 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 22:06:11 2022.

I disagree, but I obviously prefer him to Traitor.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 22:44:51 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 21:32:43 2022.

IAWTS

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 22:45:47 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:38:10 2022.

It was likely to be a government motorcade rather than a rental car.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 23:00:19 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 19 21:21:56 2022.

NO THX

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 23:01:09 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 20:38:20 2022.

...............................................................OK

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 23:01:28 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 21:10:52 2022.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 23:01:58 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 19 21:36:10 2022.

I DROVE BUSES FOR ATLANTA SCHOOLS

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 23:02:21 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 21:44:26 2022.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 19 23:02:41 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 19 21:52:00 2022.

LOL

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Jun 19 23:09:23 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 22:45:47 2022.

Could be. Not sure cabinet secretaries get motorcades.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 20 01:13:11 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 19 21:32:43 2022.

I'm assuming he was traveling on government business.

Why? I don't see that in any article.

Again, I've agreed all along that if he was going from downtown to downtown, he should have taken the Acela in the first place. But that's a fact not in evidence.




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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 20 01:23:30 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 22:45:47 2022.

Betsy DeVos got protection from the US Marshals Service which cost $1 million per month.

That seems to be on the high end. But it does seem he probably has more than just a single bodyguard.





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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 20 05:38:56 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Mon Jun 20 01:13:11 2022.

Takes seem time to set up reserving a bunch of seats in Acela 1st class, to say nothing of getting him through securely the cesspool called Penn Station, for a cabinet member who reports to the POTUS. SS has more to say about this than the Secretary.

If this were about Elaine Chao, there would be zero discission here.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 20 05:40:55 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 19 20:31:15 2022.

As Senator and and early days of VP (when the SS stopped it), Biden did it all the time to Wilinngton, but it was heavily secured, known well in advanace, never spur of the moment.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 20 05:42:18 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Edwards! on Sun Jun 19 21:22:15 2022.

Notice he no longer rides the Capitol Ltd or Lake Shore Ltd to South Bend - he can't.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 20 06:55:18 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by AlM on Sun Jun 19 10:46:05 2022.

Are you F'in kidding me? Well Mr Rationalization strikes again!

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 20 07:13:00 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 20 05:38:56 2022.

Despite the remodeling, LGA is still no place for a picnic.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Pelham Exp on Mon Jun 20 07:35:32 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 20 05:40:55 2022.

Same deal when Bloomberg rode the subway to City Hall every morning. Those stations were cleared of Homeless and derelicts hours before he ventured down those stairs.

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 20 08:27:21 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 20 05:38:56 2022.

"If this were Elaine Chao,would be zero discission here."

SoundsElaine Chao and the Republicans never declared a war against the fossil fuel industry. Sounds like you have a persecution complex.


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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 20 09:09:17 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 19 22:41:21 2022.

Do you prefer him to Biden?

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Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic)

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 20 09:25:37 2022, in response to Re: Buttigieg is a moron (on-topic), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 20 06:55:18 2022.

Huh?

Dave wrote "he drove."

The consensus in the meantime is that he was probably driven by a security detail.

But let's start with the basic claim that he drove.

We all agree that if he was going to midtown Manhattan he should have taken the train.

But suppose he wasn't. Are you really saying he should have taken the train if his ultimate destination was fairly far from midtown?

And if that's not what you're saying, in what way do you object to my post?



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