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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Apr 7 08:40:55 2021 Tuscarora Almanac - April 7-8, 1957 - The Book of Last Runs Manhattan, New York Queensborough Bridge Railway This is the last day of operation of the Queensborough Bridge Railway connecting Long Island City with midtown Manhattan with a stop at Welfare Island. It was also at that time the last streetcar line in New York State for the next twenty seven years. The car fleet consisted of eight Brill Masters Units acquired from the Union Street Railway of New Bedford, Massachusetts in 1949. Car 601 made the final run in the early hours of April 8. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 2007, article by Mr. Bernard Linder “Queensboro Plaza” wrote the following article: I rode the Queensborough Bridge trolley on the last evening. I was six years old, and after dinner that night, my father said he had a surprise for me. I had never ridden on a trolley car, and had always wanted to. My father and I had a kind of game, whenever we rode into Queenboro Plaza on the IRT, to look out the window, down through the tangle of defunct BMT tracks, to see if there was a trolley car at the Queens Plaza terminal, which was a kind of traffic island in the middle of Bridge Plaza. It was always a treat if I spotted one. So this night, we got off the train at Queensboro Plaza, came down to the street and walked back to the trolley stop. I sat in front by the door so I could see the motorman and his controls. The trolley went over the bridge on the north outer roadway, stopping at the Welfare Island elevator building, then across and down into the underground terminal at Second Avenue. It made a kind of grinding sound, as I recall. I remember there were TV cameras filming in the underground terminal that night. After we got off, we walked up the stairs of one of the entrance ways to Second Avenue, then came back down and waited for the next car to come over, and I clearly remember the headlights shining in the dark as it came off the bridge ramp and around the loop track. We returned to Queens on the south outer roadway, again stopping at Welfare Island, and that was my first and only trolley car ride until I visited San Francisco in 1979. As an aside, does anyone remember the large "Photography Prohibited" sign that used to be at the Manhattan end of the Queensborough Bridge's pedestrian walkway? I think it was a remnant of WWII, but it was there for decades afterward. Tuscarora Almanac – April 7, 1988 – The Book of First Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority Division B The first ten Kawasaki built R-68 A’s (5001-5010) arrive at the Red Hook Marine Terminal in Brooklyn. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Ble-nimx on Wed Apr 7 08:53:01 2021, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Apr 7 08:40:55 2021. The last motorman out of my original class on May 22 1988 retired a couple of months ago. The R68As we got to operate as brand new cars. Time is moving on. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Apr 7 09:58:54 2021, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Apr 7 08:40:55 2021. 
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Posted by northshore on Wed Apr 7 11:13:54 2021, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Apr 7 08:40:55 2021. There was also a trolley station on the bridge at Vernon Blvd, LIC |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Apr 7 11:26:09 2021, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Apr 7 08:40:55 2021. Where they came from 
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Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Apr 7 15:27:16 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Apr 7 09:58:54 2021. Here is what the WPIX Archive page on Facebook mentions about that last day of trolley service.At 12:32 a.m., the last trolley to run in NYC left Queens Plaza for its final trip across the Queensboro bridge. Ten minutes later, trolley service in the city became a thing of the past. The line, which started in 1909, ran for 30 years and covered a two-mile stretch that served Astoria. In 1939, bus service took over most of the route except for service to what is now Roosevelt Island and Queens Plaza. Passengers riding to Roosevelt Island would take the trolley to the middle of the Queensboro bridge and an elevator would take them down to the island. The service would have been abandoned years earlier, if permission for buses to discharge passengers in the middle of the bridge had been granted. How much do you think a trolley ride cost? (We'll post the answer in the comments!) 🚎 WPIX Archives' response... According to the April 7, 1957 edition of the New York Times, the full fare for a trolley ride across the Queensboro Bridge cost a dime. -William A. Padron ["11 Alive"] |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Apr 7 15:37:35 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Apr 7 15:27:16 2021. Too bad the City never made provision for a station shell under Roosevelt Island, when it built the BMT tunnel to QBP. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 7 15:52:56 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Apr 7 15:37:35 2021. It hardly matters now that there's an F train stop there. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Apr 7 16:50:45 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 7 15:52:56 2021. Yea, now it does! |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 7 22:12:12 2021, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Apr 7 08:40:55 2021. Although the Welfare Island elevator building, known as the Upside Down House, became obsolete after the opening of the vehicular bridge from Queens in 1955 and the end of streetcar service two years later, it wasn't torn down until 1970. Surprisingly few pictures can be found online. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Apr 7 22:48:57 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Ble-nimx on Wed Apr 7 08:53:01 2021. The late 1980s seemed so great on the subway- a real re-birth, after years of promises.Of course, there have been many problems since then, but I sure remember how hopeful and optimistic I felt about the system at that time. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Wed Apr 7 23:28:39 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Apr 7 09:58:54 2021. Happy looking lot they were. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Apr 8 07:49:56 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 7 22:12:12 2021. Peter: From what I understand ambulances from either Queens or Manhattan would drive over the bridge and turn onto the roof of the "Upside-Down" building. An elevator would then lower the ambulance to ground level. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Apr 8 07:52:53 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Apr 7 09:58:54 2021. After the termination of trolley service the underground terminal remained in use for a while by Steinway Transit buses. I remember riding a bus into it. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 8 10:20:02 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 7 22:12:12 2021. Did you get that year from Wikipedia? Wikipedia doesn’t cite its source for 1970 and linked articles indicate it still stood in 1973, with a comment in one of them claiming it could have been there as long as 1974 and only torn down to build the tram.A description from New York Magazine from 1973 indicated that the walkway was on the upper level on the south side whereas I had thought of it as being on the north side. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 8 10:20:45 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Apr 8 07:49:56 2021. And I understand that the bridge had a traffic light for this purpose to allow traffic to stop for turning vehicles. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 8 13:13:12 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 8 10:20:02 2021. I know I have used the elevator but I am fuzzy on the details.The year was roughly 1970, +/-1. It was a weekend. I rode my bike on the south outer lower level single lane roadway, which was closed to auto traffic on that particular day (probably all weekend days at that time). My bike and I took the elevator down to the island. That's all I really remember. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS ! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Apr 9 20:11:53 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 7 22:12:12 2021. Found this in my sock drawer       |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS ! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Apr 9 20:18:46 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS !, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Apr 9 20:11:53 2021. Nice! Thanks for posting and sharing these photos, & postcard views. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Apr 9 20:23:40 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Apr 8 07:52:53 2021. what remains of this underground Manhattan terminal besides the kiosks on the surface? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS ! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 9 20:35:07 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS !, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Apr 9 20:11:53 2021. That was some building for the elevator!!! I'd have expected it to have the usual dimensions of an elevator shaft. Looks like it has industrial and/or warehouse space as well. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS ! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 9 20:38:42 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS !, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Apr 9 20:11:53 2021. Great stuff. Thanks for posting!! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Apr 9 20:45:35 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 7 22:12:12 2021. I was inspired by Peter Rosa's "Few pictures note" he was dead on. Most are from a distance. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS ! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Apr 9 21:12:17 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS !, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Apr 9 20:11:53 2021. NICE |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 10 19:50:29 2021, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for April 7 PHOTOS !, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 9 20:35:07 2021. I believe it was some sort of office building in addition to having the elevator. |
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