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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 02:54:51 2021 You guys are good. To get this, you have to be very good IMO. I say an 8 out of 10
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Mar 4 05:39:44 2021, in response to Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 02:54:51 2021.* it's tough. 3 tracks Unique box cross trussing underneath Runs though neighborhood diagonally It looks so much like Roosevelt Ave in Woodside and that's where the cross streets get tough to say exactly.
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Posted by William A. Padron* on Thu Mar 4 06:12:52 2021, in response to Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 02:54:51 2021.* This is the IRT being built for the East Tremont Avenue-West Farms station in the Bronx. The el structure is running above Boston Road over there, and that fancy girder underneath in the center is still present there. -William A. Padron ["177"]
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Mar 4 06:44:49 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 4 06:12:52 2021.* I should have gotten this. That structure turns right towards East 180 station. I thought this was the 7 line but there is really one one sharp turn from Roosevelt to Queens Bvld but the structure is low there and in this photo it seems to be ascending.
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Mar 4 07:28:27 2021, in response to Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 02:54:51 2021.* Judging by protruding cross ties, which I assume will support a catwalk, it is most likely IRT, not BMT/BRT, somewhere or other.
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza* on Thu Mar 4 09:23:52 2021, in response to Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 02:54:51 2021.* Intersection of Woodside Ave. and Roosevelt Ave. at 60th Street in Woodside.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Mar 4 09:52:40 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 4 05:39:44 2021.* Nope
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Mar 4 09:55:59 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 4 06:12:52 2021.* Close. I looking for the streets that form the intersection.
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Posted by William A. Padron* on Thu Mar 4 10:06:40 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 09:55:59 2021.* The street on the left side is today's West Farms Road, and the cross street seen on the far right side is East Tremont Avenue. So, with the IRT up above Boston Road, it is a three-way meet there. -William A. Padron ["Bx40/42" and "Bx36"]
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Mar 4 11:34:56 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 4 10:06:40 2021.* If today, the street names were changed to West Farms Rd. & E. Tremont Ave. then that would make you todays winnah. The un-retoutched photo pctured here shows the original names of Bx. Park Ave & Lebanon St.
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Posted by William A. Padron* on Thu Mar 4 12:37:36 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 11:34:56 2021.* No, I cannot accept the win, so I will forfeit it. The reason is that the under girder seen at the Tremont Avenue station is much larger in width, and basically almost takes over the intersection. Looking at Google Maps in the satellite and live blocks, it is indeed Bronx Park Avenue on the left, and Lebanon Street on the right. The under girder seen on the el structure is smaller, plus the house seen at the corner there still exists, but with some modifications though. -William A. Padron ["180"]
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Mar 4 15:36:10 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 11:34:56 2021.* Huh? Bronx Park Avenue and Lebanon Street were never renamed, and still have those names. So this is not Tremont.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Thu Mar 4 15:38:56 2021, in response to Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 02:54:51 2021.* The original Lebanon Hospital was on Westchester Ave., not too far from the location in the picture. In 1946 the hospital moved to its present location at Grand Concourse and Mt. Eden Ave. as Bronx-Lebanon. An interesting subway postscript to the "new" hospital is that its basements directly abut the IND subway tunnel, which a couple of hundred feet north of the Central Supply unit and dispensary, goes over the Cross Bronx Expressway on a bridge with the Concourse without ever seeing daylight! I believe the 174-175 St. Station, which is enclosed within this bridge, is the "highest" underground point in the entire system!
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Mar 4 15:49:46 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 15:38:56 2021.* I believe the 174-175 St. Station, which is enclosed within this bridge, is the "highest" underground point in the entire system! Why do you think that? A very useful source of online topo maps has vanished, but IIRC, Grand Concourse's highest point is considerably farther north, and the subway is generally not very deep.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Mar 4 17:59:24 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 4 15:36:10 2021.* Based on Mr. Padron's initial response, he seemed quite sure of the street location using different names that were on the picture. Being that its not all that unusual for street names to change over the course of 100+ years & myself being a Queens boy & not all that familiar with the Bronx, I gave him the benefit of the doubt & bestowed upon him the award as today's winner. But being the class act that he is, he returned the award when he became aware of his mistake!:)
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Mar 4 18:22:39 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 11:34:56 2021.* S-P is correct. How it looks today.
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Thu Mar 4 19:33:27 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 18:22:39 2021.* Except for the paved streets and street signs, barely changed at all!
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Thu Mar 4 19:42:41 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 4 15:49:46 2021.* Technically, 174-175 hangs above the Cross Bronx and a street, a good seventy feet or so over the highway. It's an elevated underground station! In other words, unlike stops north of there, which are buried in the actual bedrock (and therefore "low", not "high", this one is structurally part of a bridge.
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Mar 4 20:26:00 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 19:42:41 2021.* No. The Cross Bronx Expressway tunnels under the bedrock that contains the subway. It is just more below grade level than the subway is. Link
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Mar 4 20:38:14 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 19:42:41 2021.* OK, I figured out how to use topozone.com again. Grand Concourse at the Cross Bronx is about 100 feet above sea level. Grand Concourse going north from Kingsbridge Road to East 196th Street is about 150 feet above sea level. So there we have an underground line about 125 feet above sea level. Fort Washington Ave near 175th Street also appears to be about 150 feet above sea level, and the A train is also not very deep there.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Mar 4 21:00:46 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 4 20:26:00 2021.* The cross Bronx does not gunnel under the subway. Señor JZ is basically correct.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Mar 4 21:04:19 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 4 20:26:00 2021.* In that view you are looking at the subway overhead behind that bedrock and above that granite fascia. The tunnel is exposed in clear view up on 175th archway tunnel.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Mar 4 21:05:34 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Mar 4 21:00:46 2021.* Correction yes the Xbx tunnels under the subway.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Mar 4 21:37:04 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 4 17:59:24 2021.* IAWTP
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Mar 4 21:38:24 2021, in response to Re: Guess The Location...Time to get tough!, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 4 19:33:27 2021.* Actually true! That house is still there but much changed and the other house in the background is too. The smokestack visible in the old photo is also still there.
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