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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 26 12:25:31 2021 Not coming back anytime soon |
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Posted by Andy on Tue Jan 26 12:57:59 2021, in response to Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 26 12:25:31 2021. CH West is the old Pennsylvania RR Chestnut Hill Branch, correct? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 26 13:13:28 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Andy on Tue Jan 26 12:57:59 2021. Yes, CHW is on the former Pennsy side. Chestnut Hill East was the Reading's line. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 26 13:15:21 2021, in response to Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 26 12:25:31 2021. Interesting that they recommend CHE as an alternative, given that six weekday midday trains on the Hill East, three in each direction, have just been indefinitely cancelled for "track and catenary work". |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 26 13:20:49 2021, in response to Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 26 12:25:31 2021. I don't believe the phony Amtrak excuse. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 13:45:54 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 26 13:20:49 2021. Wouldn't have happened with Swampoodle. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 26 13:48:12 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 13:45:54 2021. Who is that ? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 14:07:14 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 26 13:48:12 2021. The planned, never built connection that would have rerouted CHW to the Reading side. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 26 14:13:16 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 14:07:14 2021. That was the missing R4 in order to balance out the Reading and Pennsy side. They would have split the Main Line service with R4 (Bryn Mawr) and R5 Paoli. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 26 19:22:06 2021, in response to Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 26 12:25:31 2021. This sequence of lines in the article gave me a chuckle:“We wouldn’t do that if we didn’t have an intent on putting the [Chestnut Hill West] line back in service,” he said. The authority encourages Chestnut Hill West riders to use the Route 23 bus or Chestnut Hill East Line as alternatives. Route 23 is a textbook case of doing things with lines they don't have any intent of putting it back in service... |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jan 26 20:51:44 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 26 13:15:21 2021. service explicitly preventing travel anywhere.Until we see what funding the Dems can force out of the Senate,, even rider focused transit agencies are cutting service all over. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jan 26 20:56:22 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 26 19:22:06 2021. got that right. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Jan 27 03:13:18 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 26 13:15:21 2021. I blame Pennsyltucky for this. >:( |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 27 14:15:37 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 14:07:14 2021. You learn something new every day!--Mark |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 27 14:40:28 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 27 14:15:37 2021. Not related to Swampoodle, but that article was written in 2012 before the "Pencoyd Viaduct" (Manayunk Bridge) was turned into a rail-never-again trail. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 27 14:45:53 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 27 14:15:37 2021. Interestingly, there is, in fact, an existing track connection between the SEPTA Main and the NEC, just south of the junction with the Norristown/Manayunk Line. It lacks a catenary, however, and is primarily used by work trains and hi-rails. But the relatively minor addition of a few hundred yards of catenary would complete a small part of the overall Swampooodle plan. Then SEPTA would have flexibility in routing trains to Center City from the Main and Norristown lines, should there be a problem between North Broad and Center City on the Main. Of course, outbound trains would still foul the NEC to make this connection, too. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 27 20:15:11 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 27 14:15:37 2021. Thanks for the link. In the 6 months I livedin Germantown (the RDG was literally at the border of my backyard) I used CHE almost daily to work in Center City. Rode CHW maybe 6 times total if I needed to get to/from 30th St.It is too bad Philly is saddled with the rural parts of the state. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Wed Jan 27 20:51:20 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 27 20:15:11 2021. "The rural parts of the state" are pretty much paying the bills that Philly and Pittsburgh can't or won't. If it wasn't for rural PA I would be out of a job. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 27 21:32:43 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by kp5308 on Wed Jan 27 20:51:20 2021. That would be a very rare economic situation. In most cases the major metros generate the bulk of state revenues. Years ago in NYS 43% of state revenues were from the 5 boros, but only 28% came back from Albany. I would expect similar figures in PA as in the revenues mostly are generated in metro PHL and PBGH whether sales taxes, income taxes, etc. As always, if you have contrary data to cite, I welcome it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 27 22:06:19 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 27 21:32:43 2021. https://www.penncapital-star.com/commentary/who-are-the-biggest-makers-and-takers-of-pa-tax-dollars-analysis/ |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jan 28 00:53:28 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 27 22:06:19 2021. Thanks. Assuming Philly is the tiny blue item in the SE corner, I would suggest the ## would look very different if the salaries earned in Center City but exported to the suburbs were counted. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 28 02:14:33 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 26 19:22:06 2021. Truth. And with such mendacity. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jan 28 08:04:37 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 27 22:06:19 2021. Hopefully Kevin will see this article and adjust his viewpoint to match the data. Both Philly and ultra-rural PA are sucking money from PGH, suburban and small-urban PA. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Jan 29 18:21:40 2021, in response to Re: Septa Chestnut Hill West line, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jan 28 08:04:37 2021. Wow....Allegheny County is surprising but Berks County is a positive contributor? I didn't think Berks had a financial positive in ANY way!Businesses in rural PA generated 70 percent of my commission total in 2020. The question in my mind is will you adjust YOUR thinking Mike. All "data" in your world revolves around government which is not the entire reality of the financial picture. |
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