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The Incident (1967)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020

I'm currently watching this movie on FXM. I've never seen it on any list of the usual subway related movies (Pelham 123, FBI Story, The Warriors). Great shots of WF Low V cars and the Bronx 3rd Ave el.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 21 14:21:11 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

Pretty authentic mockup of WF Lo-V 5674, if you ask me.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 21 15:59:36 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

I just watched that movie on the fire stick a couple Friday nights ago. The subway stuff is great but it’s infuriating watching those two fool terrorize the passengers on that train.

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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:58:57 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

Interesting about that movie was the car that they were riding in was a studio mockup constructed using actual car blueprints. I've mentioned this before but the characters played by Jan Sterling and Brock Peters were my least favorites.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:59:31 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 21 14:21:11 2020.

Built from actual Low V Blueprints

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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 17:45:04 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:58:57 2020.

Yeah it seems like we had this conversation recently. I said something about Peters and you said that you only meant his character and not him personally.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 21 19:32:09 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:58:57 2020.

I just watched Brock Peters in Carmen Jones (1954) with Harry Belafonte. He does a good job which is what makes him unlikeable.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 21 21:38:10 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

Ed McMahon in a dramatic role!

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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 21 22:14:32 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Dave on Sat Nov 21 21:38:10 2020.

his best was the sleaze bag CEO of an aerospace vendor in Fun w/ Dick and Jane.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 21 22:15:58 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 21 19:32:09 2020.

check him out in the Pawnbroker w/Rod Steiger.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 21 22:17:46 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 21 22:15:58 2020.

I will. Thank you

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 21 22:18:04 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Dave on Sat Nov 21 21:38:10 2020.

Yeah man !!!

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 21 23:18:37 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Dave on Sat Nov 21 21:38:10 2020.

At that time, he was hosting a game show called Snap Judgment. I remember it, too.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 22 00:58:28 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

Ridiculous movie. Much of the movie’s activity takes place between 125th and Grand Central, a 5-7 minute trip.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 01:05:24 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 22 00:58:28 2020.

I don’t think that’s true. Especially since it takes place on an el and the Third Ave el in Manhattan was long gone by 1967.
Never mind the Bronx stops and stations featured along the way.
Perhaps you’re thinking of a different film?

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Posted by randyo on Sun Nov 22 17:50:41 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

The thing that’s interesting about that film is that the uses a World's Fair Steinway for the car when those cars almost never if at all ran on the Lex Av Exp.

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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 22 17:59:03 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by randyo on Sun Nov 22 17:50:41 2020.

So where did those cars run? I remember 4500 to like 5599 on the Lex. Don’t remember higher numbers.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by VictorM on Sun Nov 22 18:29:40 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 22 17:59:03 2020.

Some of them ran on the Pelham Lex local.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 23 01:04:15 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by VictorM on Sun Nov 22 18:29:40 2020.

When they first came over to the mainline from Queens, they ran on Pelham along with some standard bodied Steinways. When the R-17s came on the property, the first cars to be removed were the Hi-Vs followed by the standard bodied Steinways and W/Fs that were then transferred to the West Side IRT expresses.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 23 10:54:44 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 01:05:24 2020.

The trip begins on the Jerome El, IINM.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Nov 23 11:29:34 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 23 10:54:44 2020.

I don’t remember that but the majority of the film is Third Ave El.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 23 14:05:29 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Nov 23 11:29:34 2020.

I think the trip begins on Jerome, because the later scenes have the train stopping at underground 138 and 125, and two of the passengers board at 167, which is on Jerome Avenue.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Q4 on Mon Nov 23 15:34:09 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 21 22:17:46 2020.

Brock Peters was a very good actor who played the roles of some bad and unlikeable characters in his long career.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Nov 23 18:46:44 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by randyo on Mon Nov 23 01:04:15 2020.

The R-17s replaced the Gibbs Hi-Vs, didn't they?

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Nov 23 18:48:49 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 23 14:05:29 2020.

Artistic license.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 23 21:04:19 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by randyo on Mon Nov 23 01:04:15 2020.

That was like 1954, when the R17s were placed on the Pelham Local, correct?

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 24 06:30:45 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 23 14:05:29 2020.

That is correct. The train stops at 125 and the next stop is Grand Central. Most of the movie takes place between those two stations.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 18:26:16 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 23 21:04:19 2020.

IINM the first R-17s entered service on October 10, 1955.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 18:27:38 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 24 06:30:45 2020.

You can briefly see a 103rd St. sign through an open door.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 01:43:02 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Nov 23 18:46:44 2020.

They initially replaced the Gibbs Hi-Vs because the TA wanted all the Hi-Vs off the road as early as possible. The same thing happened on Bway. the Bway Exp always needed a few trains of
Lo-Vs to make full service so as new cars were assigned to those lines the first cars to go were the Hi-Vs followed by the few remaining Lo-Vs that both of those lines had.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 25 08:19:12 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 18:26:16 2020.

Thanks. I knew it was 1954 or 1955.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Nov 25 10:46:08 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 18:26:16 2020.



IINM the first R-17s entered service on October 10, 1955.

You hit the nail on the head Steve.




Tuscarora Almanac - October 10, 1955 - The Book of First Runs

The Bronx, New York
New York City Transit Authority
IRT Division


The first train of R-17's enters service today on the IRT No 6 Lexington Avenue Local. The R-17 Fleet will eventually number four hundred cars with road numbers 6500 to 6899. They will remain in service until 1988.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / December 1964

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 25 14:07:35 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 01:05:24 2020.

I recall one of the pre-boarding scenes was shot at Mt Eden Ave on the Jerome line.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 18:28:21 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Nov 25 10:46:08 2020.

Interestingly, the oldest of the mechanically identical R-17,21,22 series the R-17s was the group that lasted the longest. Why they didn’t keep the newest ones, the R-22s I don’t know.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 25 18:42:04 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 01:43:02 2020.

IINM three Gibbs cars remained in service until early 1958.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 25 18:42:57 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 18:28:21 2020.

I'll bet they took more of a beating.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 26 08:05:02 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 18:28:21 2020.

Maybe because they were the filthiest cars out of the group.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 26 08:51:02 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 25 18:42:04 2020.

In service? How is that possible? A 3-car train ran somewhere? Maybe the shuttle? Couldn't MU with anything else, I don't believe.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Nov 26 12:53:11 2020, in response to The Incident (1967), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 13:59:23 2020.

The Incident can be found on YouTube (full movie).

The film had quite a cast for its time, between Martin Sheen, Beau Bridges, Donna Mills (best known for Knots Landing in the 1980's) Ruby Dee and Ed McMahon in a rare film role.




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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Nov 26 13:33:28 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 24 06:30:45 2020.

And they missed 86th and then 59th Street on the way.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 26 15:09:12 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 26 08:51:02 2020.

There were later Hi-Vs still in operation which were being phased out with the arrival of the R-21/22s. The Gibbs cars could operate with them. Or perhaps they were used on the Bowling Green shuttle.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 26 16:19:00 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 25 18:42:04 2020.

After they were removed from passenger service they survived a few more years as work motors.

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Re: The Incident (1967)

Posted by r17-6599 on Fri Nov 27 14:55:02 2020, in response to Re: The Incident (1967), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 26 15:09:12 2020.

Ah, I see. I would imagine the deck roofs were gone but the standard bodied Hi Vs still around at that time.

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