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Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 19 13:02:54 2020

Happened today in Middletown, NY. Not only is a piece of rail history lost, but the employees of the businesses that occupied the site are now out of work.

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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 14:48:04 2020, in response to Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 19 13:02:54 2020.

Yup, Warwick FD has been in to help. You can see the smoke in Chester.

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Photos: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 14:52:20 2020, in response to Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 19 13:02:54 2020.

https://www.facebook.com/OCNYFC/photos/pcb.1808129392696722/1808128756030119/

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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 19 15:58:29 2020, in response to Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 19 13:02:54 2020.

Arson ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by zac on Thu Nov 19 16:59:43 2020, in response to Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 19 15:58:29 2020.

I remember way back in the early 60s my father had taken us to his bar at the intersection of Flushing, Irving, Varick, Melrose and Thames (the 5 corners) in Bushwick, and there was a huge fire at the warehouse/business across the way. It was only recently that it occurred to me that maybe he was tipped off that the place was going to burn down by one of his customers, and he brought us there to see it himself since that was his custody day each week.

The building with the bar is still there and is now a bodega. And the thing I didn't know at the time is that the L train is on the next corner. I only realized this when I was riding by on my bike last year.

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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 17:12:26 2020, in response to Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 19 15:58:29 2020.

Tenative word from News12 was that it was accidental, cardboard being stacked to close to an active heating boiler.


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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 17:13:06 2020, in response to Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 19 15:58:29 2020.

Tentative word from News12 was that it was accidental, cardboard being stacked too close to an active heating boiler.


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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down (Middletown NY)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 19 17:38:08 2020, in response to Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 19 13:02:54 2020.

My gut says arson.

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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Nov 19 20:24:06 2020, in response to Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 19 13:02:54 2020.

My Dad's family is from Middletown,NY, we'd get off the Thurway, take Rt. 17 to the exit for Middletown - dont' remember the road's name from Rt. 17 that we exited onto. Lou from Middletown, if you're reading this, it's the road that passed that bar named Club 84.

The road continued up a hill, at the top of the hill we made a right turn, and that was the road that passed through the former O&W yards.

IIRC my Dad told me at the souteastern end of the property, right by the road was a turntable there decades back.

After the yards, this road went up a another steep hill, at or near the top we made a left onto Highland Ave, where my Dad's family home was located.

I explored the area during the late 1970s, some of the remaining former O&W buildings housed various businesses.



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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 22:43:01 2020, in response to Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 19 15:58:29 2020.

Now they are saying a forklift driver hit a gas line inside....ugh.

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Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Nov 20 02:54:10 2020, in response to Re: Former New York, Ontario & Western shops burn down, posted by zac on Thu Nov 19 16:59:43 2020.

so the punch line of an old joke goes, "I know about Manny the torch , how you start an earthquake?"

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