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Re: [PHOTO] Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum

Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 9 11:42:16 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum, posted by 3-9 on Mon Nov 9 10:17:55 2020.

No, they were on the LIRR for about 20 years. They generally sandwiched an ex-UP Lounge car which did get scrapped.

MN had an extreme equipment shortage of loco-hauled equipment until just before Brewster electrification. LIRR had to give them up. Title was eventually transferred. Morris Park wanted to do a quicky conversion to them, yanking out the steam line and installing a diesel-gen set like they did to the B&O car to render them useless to MN, but were afraid of getting fired.

MN has a "gentleman's" agreement to donate them to Steamtown when they get rid of them.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum

Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 9 17:22:49 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum, posted by 3-9 on Mon Nov 9 09:24:15 2020.

That was actually unfortunate for the LIRR since even the newest MUs ordered for the 1964 World’s Fair were mechanically state of the art 1930s. The NYC kept up with technology with the first batch of post war MUs circa 1950. While the MUs ordered around the same time as the LIRRs 1964 MUs and almost identical in appearance were compatible with the earlier ones, they were still pretty much state of the art since there were really no significant improvements in MU performance in that time period. The city of NY wasn’t too different since while the state of the art for motor control and braking systems improved drastically with the BMT Multis circa 1935 yet the B of T as late as 1940 insisted on retaining the out of date appearance and technology of the first 1932 R-1s. Even by the time of the R-10s after the war, the city’s car designs were out of date which they actually were at the time the Multis were ordered.


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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum

Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 9 18:51:55 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 9 17:22:49 2020.

Unlike LIRR, I don't think New York Central's post war MU's could MU with their various pre-war MU's.

Interesting thought would be could a pre war or post war NYC MU with a MP54-MP75 ?

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum

Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 10 00:46:50 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR MP-54 #4153 At CT Trolley Museum, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 9 18:51:55 2020.

Correct. The postwar generation of NYC MUs were incompatible with the prewar stock.

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