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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Oct 28 08:52:27 2020 Tuscarora Almanac – October 28, 1913 – The Book of First Runs Brooklyn, New York Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company Trolley cars begin operation on the Sea Beach Line between Bath Junction and Coney Island. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 1971, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – October 28, 1941 – The Book of First Runs Waterloo, Iowa Illinois Central Railroad A two unit Motorailer trainset known as the “Land O’Corn” begins operation between Chicago, Illinois and Waterloo, Iowa. Source: “Illinois Central Through Passenger Service in Color” (Morning Sun Books /2016) by Mr. Greg Stout Tuscarora Almanac – October 28, 1945 – The Book of Last Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Board of Transportation BMT Division The short streetcar line known as the Nostrand Avenue Shuttle (Rt 43) was merged into the main Nostrand Avenue (Rt 44) trolley line. Source: New York Division Bulletin / April 1977 / article by Mr. Edward B. Watson Tuscarora Almanac – October 28, 1956 – The Book of First Runs Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Baltimore & Ohio Railroad The B&O begins operation of a new passenger train to run between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The train is called “The Daylight Speedliner”, nos. 21 and 22. The usual consist will be five of the new Budd-built Rail Diesel Cars (RDC’s). Addendum: Jackson Park B Train added toe following: Special RDCs were ordered for this train; 2 coaches and 1 baggage diner coach for each. While longer trains would have "borrowed" existing RDC 1 coaches from the commuter pool, the only times I saw or rode the train was only 3 cars. Food in the diner was excellent as one would expect from B&O. Source: “Baltimore & Ohio Through Passenger Service in Color” (Morning Sun Books / 2011) by Mr. Bob Withers Tuscarora Almanac – October 28, 1960 – The Book of Special Runs Polo Grounds, New York New York City Transit Authority IND Division A train called “The Titan Subway Football Special” departed from 169th Street-Jamaica at about 9:30 AM. It ran non-stop to 42nd Street-8th Avenue (lower level) where it picked up more fans. It proceeded south and revered on the track A-5 south of 34th Street. It then ran non-stop to the 155th Street Station. A second run was made on November 24 starting from 179th Street. Source: ERA New York Division Bulletin / December 1960 Tuscarora Almanac - October 28, 1983 - The Book of Last Runs South Amboy, New Jersey New Jersey Transit Rail Operations This is the last day of operation for the former Pennsylvania Railroad GG-1's now running for New Jersey Transit. The final regular run was made by No.4879 in charge of Train No. 3323, a Penn Station to South Amboy run. Source: New York Division Bulletin / November, 1983 Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 28 11:01:23 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Oct 28 08:52:27 2020. Wow what a busy day in history. That Titan Football Special must have been a great time. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 11:17:51 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 28 11:01:23 2020. A bit ironic that all subway stations that served Yankee Stadium and the Polo Grounds were local stops. (Notice I said, SUBWAY, not el). |
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Posted by Dan on Wed Oct 28 11:49:54 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Oct 28 08:52:27 2020. 'Trolley cars begin operation on the Sea Beach Line between Bath Junction and Coney Island.'Was that in addition to the regular BRT rail service? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 28 12:28:47 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Dan on Wed Oct 28 11:49:54 2020. No, it was instead of, at least until replaced with the subway line. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 28 12:45:57 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 11:17:51 2020. Yes |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Oct 28 14:07:26 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 11:17:51 2020. Steve B-8AVEXP, I have often wondered why they were local stops considering both venues predated the IND. While it would have made for three express stations in a row on the Concourse Line, it would have made since as it is not like they didn't have the same set up on 6th Avenue at 47-50th, 42nd and 34th Street Stations. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 15:13:45 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Dan on Wed Oct 28 11:49:54 2020. The Sea Beach line as we know it today opened on June 22, 1915. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 15:17:19 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Q4 on Wed Oct 28 14:07:26 2020. I think that if 155th St.-8th Ave. and 161st-River Ave had been built as express stops, it would have defeated the purpose of having an express track in the first place. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Oct 28 16:17:05 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 28 11:01:23 2020. Titans = original name of the Jets. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:30:07 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 15:17:19 2020. Not entirely. Many people don’t realize that in addition to speed, express tracks also provide additional passenger capacity. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:32:20 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 11:17:51 2020. It was probably felt that since most baseball games take place outside the rush hour which is the only time the Concourse exp service ran having those stations as exp stops would be unnecessary. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:33:23 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Oct 28 16:17:05 2020. And the first professional sports team to play the Polo Grounds after the NY Giants baseball team left. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 22:12:42 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:33:23 2020. By the time the Mets came into being, the Polo Grounds was about to be condemned. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 22:14:04 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:30:07 2020. Nowadays, the speed factor has been nullified. |
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Posted by zac on Thu Oct 29 00:40:56 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 28 16:32:20 2020. Doesn't the D stop at 161st when the Yankees are playing in the evening anyway, even during the express hours? |
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Posted by zac on Thu Oct 29 00:43:32 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 28 22:12:42 2020. I saw a Mets game at the Polo Grounds. I was too young to know that the Giants had played there. I just remember it being old. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 02:17:37 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by zac on Thu Oct 29 00:40:56 2020. Yes it does, but don’t forget that back when the subway was built baseball games were scheduled at different times and many ball parks (not sure about Yankee Stadium) didn’t have lights yet so no night games. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 02:18:25 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by zac on Thu Oct 29 00:43:32 2020. I was at the last Giants game ever played at the Polo Grounds. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 07:55:27 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 02:17:37 2020. IINM Yankee Stadium didn't have lights until 1940. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 07:56:19 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 02:18:25 2020. IINM not too many people were there for that game. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 07:57:35 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by zac on Thu Oct 29 00:43:32 2020. They did some cosmetic restoration when the Mets came into being to make it playable. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 29 08:25:03 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 07:55:27 2020. May 1946. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 29 08:25:36 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 02:18:25 2020. That is awesome |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Oct 29 12:28:08 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by zac on Thu Oct 29 00:40:56 2020. Not all. There have been times we had to get off at 145th because that particular D was not stopping at 161st Street. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 13:28:14 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 07:56:19 2020. About 11,600, I believe. As much as I blamed O'Malley and Robert Moses for the Dodgers exit, I can understand why Stoneham took the Giants west. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 13:31:34 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 07:57:35 2020. Yea, I remember that. But that whole neighborhood went south after the Colonial park (Rangel) Houses completely opened in 1951. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 14:12:00 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 29 08:25:03 2020. I stand corrected. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 29 14:16:08 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 13:28:14 2020. I found it to be 11,606.Very good. Bob Friend beat Johnny Antonelli 9-1. Friend is still alive and Antonelli passed in February 2020. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 14:17:07 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 13:28:14 2020. Even with Willie Mays, the Giants were struggling, both on the field and at the box office. They drew all of 654,000 for all of 1957 while the '62 Mets drew 922,530. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 14:18:12 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 13:31:34 2020. That development replaced the el train yard, didn't it? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 16:26:55 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 14:17:07 2020. Makes me wonder if the Giants were ever offered the opportunity to move to Shea Stadium, like the Dodgers? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 17:09:18 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 16:26:55 2020. At the time, Shea stadium did not exist and O’Malley wanted to keep the Dodgers in Bkln evn though being very likely a Catholic, he should have realized that even in Queens, the Dodgers would still have been within the Catholic diocese of Brooklyn making it OK. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 17:34:19 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 16:26:55 2020. Stoneham didn't even wait until the end of the '57 season to make the official announcement. That came in August. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 17:38:55 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 14:18:12 2020. It did, and although I was only 5 when the houses went up, my mother insisted that I remembered the rail yard. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 18:12:50 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 14:18:12 2020. The projects replaced what had not been picked clean for scrap during WW II. The 159th St yard, itself, replaced the old 145th St el yard, located between what was then 7th & 8th Aves, in 1906. This yard had never been electrified and the locomotive repair shed and storage track in the north end of the yard were no longer needed. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Oct 29 18:16:38 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 13:28:14 2020. Few of the MLB teams had high attendance back then compared to now. The (original) Senators had under 10k many evenings in DC--from my memory of listening to games on the radio. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 22:44:28 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 29 14:16:08 2020. The Mets finished 51-111 in '63. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 29 22:58:28 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 17:09:18 2020. They wanted to build a stadium for the Dodgers in Flushing Meadow, where Shea Stadium was. O'Malley said no. His caustic reply was , Hell, If they want me to move to Flushing Meadow, I might as well move to Los Angeles. Real sweetheart of a guy this O'Malley was. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 30 02:57:42 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 28 11:01:23 2020. a booze-filled run for sure. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Fri Oct 30 08:24:33 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 02:17:37 2020. In the days before night games many afternoon games started at 2 or 3 PM. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 09:09:16 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 29 22:44:28 2020. That’s atrocious but an improvement over ‘62! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 09:09:45 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 29 22:58:28 2020. That’s right |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 09:10:07 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 30 02:57:42 2020. Could have been. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 09:21:27 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by murray1575 on Fri Oct 30 08:24:33 2020. Yeah the 2:00 start continued into the mid eighties. As the games got longer in terms of time they wound up with the 1:00 starts. The night games started at 8:00 until about the same time and again as the games began to consistently run into three hours the starts slipped to 7:30 and then 7:00. And this year I know they had some 6:00 starts. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Oct 30 11:01:33 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 09:21:27 2020. I remember when Met games started at 8:05 PM. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Oct 30 11:02:28 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 09:09:16 2020. From 40-120 to 51-111. In '64 they finished 53-109 and in'65, 50-112. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 30 11:27:17 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 29 17:09:18 2020. That makes no sense. |
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Posted by sloth on Fri Oct 30 12:06:32 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Oct 29 16:26:55 2020. There was a plan to move the Giants into Yankee Stadium. Haven't found any mention of the future Shea site being offered to them. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 30 12:11:24 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Oct 30 11:01:33 2020. 8:05 👍🏼 |
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