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Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 10 09:10:39 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 02:50:35 2020. The Phase I's were ok braking wise but the Phase II's were bad.All the Phase II's were retired first which had NY Air Brakes. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 11:40:54 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 10 09:10:39 2020. One reason might have been that the NYAB brake valve used micro switches in the electric self lapper while the WABCO brake valve retained the older pendulum electric self lapper. The latter, by din of its heavier moving parts, provided a smoother action. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 13:42:47 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:16:42 2020. Thanks for that. Interesting. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 13:43:54 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:17:31 2020. Already did, thanks. |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Apr 10 13:54:32 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:16:42 2020. Interesting. In the steels did that one motor per truck power both axles or just one axle? Thanks for the info. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 10 15:19:35 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by zac on Thu Apr 9 21:00:29 2020. Here's another shot of fresh off the barge R-32s in the LIRR Sunnyside freight Yd. Looking their shiny best as a set of Flushing line R-36WFs try to steal the scene |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 15:31:09 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by VictorM on Fri Apr 10 13:54:32 2020. One axle |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 17:39:38 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 10 05:08:48 2020. The first place the R-27/30s were used was the Brighton Lcl (QB/QT), 4 Av Lcl (RR) and a few on the Sea Beach (N). As the R-32s arrived, they went to the West End Sea Beach and Brighton Exp freeing up the R-27/30s for exclusive use on the Brighton and 4 Av lcls where they remained for a good portion of their service life. Post Chrystie caused a bit of equipment shifting but the 4 Av and Brighton Lines along with the Eastern Div lines that ran down the Brighton remained their home for quite a bit of time. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 17:44:52 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 11:40:54 2020. That explains why the 62s and 68s with the NYAB brake valves had them replaced by WABCO ME43s removed from the decommissioned cabs on those cars so equipped when the cars were unitized. However, many of the M&K GOHed R-26s and 28s had NYAB Newtran brake valves and ran with them until the cars were scrapped. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 10 17:50:14 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 17:39:38 2020. I remember before the R32's arrived, on weekends all Standards and D-Types were laid up with R27/30's handling all Southern Division service. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 10 17:58:42 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 17:39:38 2020. Once the R32's came in, until Nov 1967, there were always a few R27/30's on the T, TT, N, and maybe the Q during rush hours. Seems there were not enough R32 to go around.. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 10 18:20:43 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:16:42 2020. Hypothetical: If that 1 motor truck lost a contact shoe (rare, but it happens) would that motor truck lose power or would the other truck's contact shoe be able to supply power the motorized truck? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 10 18:35:41 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:17:31 2020. When the LIRR rebuilt 10 of the MP-70 double-deckers in 1969, which had a motor and trailer truck, they decided to put one powered axle in each truck for whatever reason. I read that in a feature article in the defunct "Metrolines" magazine, which I still have. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Apr 10 18:53:51 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 10 17:58:42 2020. I don't ever remember seeing them on the Q. Yes on the N but I don't know about the T or TT. Sometimes on the M specials. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 10 19:05:45 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by zac on Fri Apr 10 18:53:51 2020. Several TT's deadheaded to ENY, and one was often an R27. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 19:57:22 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 17:44:52 2020. Yes but there was another issue on the R-68As braking that still persist today. The brake valve piping on the R68As is of a smaller diameter than their French sister cars. Thus making the brake application slower to recover when you ease off a bit too much, approaching the 10 car mark and then have to grab for more brake. I never heard that the same issue existed on the Kawasaki R-62s however. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 20:02:47 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 10 18:20:43 2020. All four contact shoes feed a common buss. The motors are not fed directly from track power. They are either hooked in series or in parallel depending on where the master controller handle is set. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 20:12:22 2020, in response to [PHOTO] Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Apr 10 06:49:43 2020. I remember that color scheme, too. Of course, they were still clean in '67. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 20:14:50 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 10 17:50:14 2020. You only had four weekend routes (N, QB, RR and T on Saturdays and the TT shuttle late nights and Sundays), so you figure the R-27/30s could easily handle them. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 20:23:03 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 10 15:19:35 2020. LOVE those blue doors! |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Apr 10 20:31:26 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by VictorM on Fri Apr 10 13:54:32 2020. Thanks. |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Apr 10 20:32:28 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 15:31:09 2020. Thanks. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 10 20:35:20 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 8 13:49:48 2020. R-46 for me. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 10 20:54:08 2020, in response to [PHOTO] Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Apr 10 06:49:43 2020. I can hear the music playing too.So glad they chose that train. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Apr 10 21:31:16 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 10 15:19:35 2020. That’s a remarkable shot |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 10 23:12:42 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 10 20:02:47 2020. Ok Thanks |
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