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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 8 14:05:15 2020, in response to MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 8 14:02:42 2020. The Times has long ceased to be credible in its reporting. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 8 15:02:53 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 8 14:05:15 2020. Huh?The article's criticisms of MTA actions heavily relies on worker statements. Are you saying those statements are false? |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Apr 8 18:30:56 2020, in response to MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 8 14:02:42 2020. That's a lot of weasel speak. Let's see how the "heroic employees" are treated at the bargaining table by this prick. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 8 18:33:22 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 8 14:05:15 2020. So you say, but you seem to keep publishing@subchat. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 8 18:46:24 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by sloth on Wed Apr 8 18:30:56 2020. not something Patrick foyle has control over, |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 8 18:47:09 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by sloth on Wed Apr 8 18:30:56 2020. For sure!Give those front Liners the credit,resources, and wages they deserve. |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Apr 8 19:21:53 2020, in response to MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 8 14:02:42 2020. How about we talk about the steps that the MTA could have taken, but didn't?- Actually enforcing the "ridership for essential workers only" and keeping non-essential and THE HOMELESS out of the subway system. - As of yesterday there are no N95 masks at any RTO facilities I've been to. Yesterday as in APRIL 7. But there is the paperwork to make sure no employee gets 2 masks in the same week. - Doing a proper redistribution of crews so that all lines could run proper service, rather than have as much as 90 minute gaps between trains. This was finally implemented YESTERDAY, APRIL 7. Closing down some of the terminals such as Utica on the 4 and consolidating service would have also helped. - How about shutting down the entire system, even if for a couple hours a night, so that proper cleaning can be performed and all the non essentials kicked out? Maybe close it down for a weekend? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Apr 8 19:29:55 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by sloth on Wed Apr 8 18:30:56 2020. Weasels are in large supply in PR departments. |
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Posted by sloth on Wed Apr 8 20:15:43 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 8 18:46:24 2020. No? They are all puppets of the governor anyway. I noticed an increase in negativity towards the employees that coincided with Foye's ascension to the upper realms of puppetdom. Perhaps it was a coincidence. I can't remember anything except what's supposed to be on next week's pay stub, anyway. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 8 20:47:28 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Apr 8 19:21:53 2020. - As of yesterday there are no N95 masks at any RTO facilities I've been to. Yesterday as in APRIL 7. But there is the paperwork to make sure no employee gets 2 masks in the same week.LOL at the paperwork. Closing down some of the terminals such as Utica on the 4 and consolidating service would have also helped. That works. I think they were quicker to shorten A and C trains than Lexington Lines but the 2 train tragedy happened as all this was impacting the system. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Wed Apr 8 21:44:24 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Apr 8 19:21:53 2020. I still don't understand why the MTA was allegedly directing crews not to wear masks "so as not to scare passengers". Wouldn't passengers want to see that all possible precautions are being taken? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Apr 8 21:53:10 2020, in response to MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 8 14:02:42 2020. Denver has adopted rear bus boarding as well. Fare collecting has been suspended, and light rail trains are now three cars - most likely for social distancing purposes. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:41:07 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by sloth on Wed Apr 8 18:30:56 2020. Sadly the contract last negotiated recently was a 4 year one.By then Foye will be long gone and whoever the governor is will say thank you but we have no money since 2020 was a bad year for MTA & the state of NY which we still haven't recovered from. I expect a big turnover of personnel amongst the workers and union "suits" by then. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:46:49 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 8 20:47:28 2020. We all know that the paperwork is always THE most important thing. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 8 23:12:03 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:41:07 2020. Since we are experiencing a condition the likes of which has not been seen during most of our lifetimes, I suspect a lot of changes to come including even the possibility that the workers might demand an election and vote out the TWU in favor of one of the ATU locals 2 of which are already on the property representing Queens and Staten Island bus employees. |
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Posted by sloth on Thu Apr 9 00:20:00 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:41:07 2020. On the LIRR we didn't get around to a new contract before all this happened, and negotiations hadn't been going too well. Who knows what will have gone down by the time talks resume. We'll negotiate against a weasel to be named later, and get the shaft, I'm sure. Eng has also written a letter about heroic employees. Not sure who they think they're fooling. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 9 02:30:23 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:46:49 2020. +1 |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Apr 9 08:19:46 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:46:49 2020. No job is complete until the paperwork is done |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Apr 9 14:21:20 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 9 02:30:23 2020. +2 |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Apr 10 07:29:49 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by K. Trout on Wed Apr 8 21:44:24 2020. There are some people who think everyone who wears a mask is a criminal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 10 12:47:14 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Apr 10 07:29:49 2020. No, that’s not the reason. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Apr 10 14:12:39 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Apr 10 07:29:49 2020. 🤪 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 10 15:12:04 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Apr 10 14:12:39 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 11 10:16:19 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 8 14:05:15 2020. I stopped believing the New York Times around 1993 when it ran a Page 1 story about my former NYCT boss. He had left for another transit system and it referred to him “as one of the most respected transit managers in the United States.” That was clearly an opinion and was not appropriate for a news article. The story also wasn’t worthy of being on Page 1 of the Times. It was only there because he was friends with the reporter.And now that I think of it, back in the late 60s when I was in college, there was a student 20 years older than the other students. She also had a reporter friend from the Times. One day she hung a few balloons on the mezzanine of the 68 Street station to “beautify” the station before the MTA’s Station Beautification Program. Guess what? That was also a Page 1 New York Times story and May have even been the inspiration for the Adopt a Station or Station Beautification programs. Rather than complementing the student, our Polici Sci teacher became very upset. She told her that she had been trying for thirty years to do something that would get her into the New York Times and you do it with a few stupid balloons. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Apr 11 10:51:28 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 11 10:16:19 2020. Just WoW!!! |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 11 17:26:01 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 11 10:16:19 2020. Since apparently you and I were in the MTA at the same time, which one of our former bosses are you referring to? From the time frame it had to be either Gunn or Kiepper. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 11 23:22:38 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 11 17:26:01 2020. I wasn’t talking about the top boss. He was in Buses (Surface). You probably didn’t know him. He was second in command there back in 1981. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 12 02:11:27 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 11 23:22:38 2020. Well, if he was in Buses then I wouldn’t know him. My home department was RTO. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Apr 12 02:49:36 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 11 10:16:19 2020. Just because you're bitter and paranoid doesn't mean the guy wasn't actually one of the most respected transit managers in the United States and they're not actually out to get you.I don't care about your first hand accounts of how bad the guy was, many of which you're probably already posted here. I can post many first hand accounts of how wrong you have been here on SubChat and you won't believe me. So why should any of us believe what you say about him? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Apr 12 02:51:56 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 8 22:41:07 2020. "...2020 was a bad year for MTA & the state of NY which we still haven't recovered from."Which very well could be the truth, right? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Apr 12 02:54:56 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Apr 8 19:21:53 2020. "Actually enforcing the "ridership for essential workers only" and keeping non-essential...out of the subway system"LOL, and how would they do that (effectively and safely)? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 12 03:26:07 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Apr 12 02:54:56 2020. LOL, and how would they do that (effectively and safely)?similar to random bag checks policy? just give NYPD the green light to stop and question random riders and then ticket them. And if they're lucky it will escalate to a felony arrest. If government and law enforcement agencies see a way to enforce, they'll do it! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Apr 12 08:58:11 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Apr 12 02:49:36 2020. Did I say the guy was bad? You read what you want to read. All I said is that was an opinion and does not belong in a news article and the article wasn’t important enough to merit Page one coverage.The fact was that the guy moved from city to city and country and didn’t last more than two years anywhere he went. He even returned once to the MTA to head East Side Access but was out after only three months. If that was my career, and the article was about me, you wouldn’t be defending me. You criticized me because I was director of Bus Planning for not six months. Coincidentally, one of my neighbor’s brother worked for him in another city and called him a horror. When I started working for him I thought he was great and really liked him. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 12 09:09:35 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 8 18:33:22 2020. I don’t charge people to read my opinions and I don’t claim to be the newspaper of record. Stupid comparison. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 12 09:19:03 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Apr 12 08:58:11 2020. No, he’s right. You often jump to conclusions. A roomful of editors decides what goes on page one of the Times. An individual reporter doesn’t get to decide. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Apr 13 17:31:40 2020, in response to MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 8 14:02:42 2020. This is too heroic. I can't find anyone who has responded well and swiftly.And quite frankly, I essentially did photojournalism of how Pat f-ed up in other threads. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Apr 13 17:32:29 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by checkthedoorlight on Wed Apr 8 19:21:53 2020. Proper cleaning? haha |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Apr 13 18:05:08 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Apr 8 21:53:10 2020. cue spider-pigs vieled segregation comments. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 13 23:29:27 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 12 09:19:03 2020. Okay, but an opinion does not belong in a news article, just the facts. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 14 01:04:40 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 12 09:19:03 2020. Thanks, Kevin from Midwood. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 14 01:05:43 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 13 23:29:27 2020. That's just your opinion. And apparently the NY Times thinks otherwise about one or more aspects of your analysis. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 14 01:06:26 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 12 03:26:07 2020. No, that makes no sense. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Apr 14 03:25:04 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 12 03:26:07 2020. That would not be a good idea either since there are non essential passengers who still need to use public transit to get to any doctor’s appointments that gave not been canceled and in some cases to even get to super markets if they don’t live close to any. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 14 03:48:54 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by randyo on Tue Apr 14 03:25:04 2020. That would not be a good idea either since there are non essential passengers who still need to use public transit to get to any doctor’s appointments that gave not been canceled and in some cases to even get to super markets if they don’t live close to any.I did not say it's a good idea or that I advocate the policy. I'm saying that's the direction America is going in, in every state, just some worse than others. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Apr 14 08:22:42 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 12 09:19:03 2020. So that's why they fired all of their factcheckers! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Apr 14 10:49:57 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 12 09:19:03 2020. I wish people would stop clicking and reporting how great this racist pile of shit "news"paper is. I had a long list I was posting to people on here of just the last 4-6 months of examples.From their anti-semitic cartoons, to their editors who tweet their hatred for certain races and that's a-okey. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 14 11:03:25 2020, in response to MTA Issues Letter to The New York Times, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 8 14:02:42 2020. Give 'em hell, Foye. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 14 11:21:06 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Rebuke to The New York Beobachter Slimes, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 14 11:03:25 2020. Why do you keep referring to Jared Kushner's former newspaper by its German name? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 14 11:28:57 2020, in response to Re: MTA Issues Rebuke to The New York Beobachter Slimes, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 14 11:21:06 2020. Because Olog is a Trump apologist. |
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