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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:05:17 2020, in response to No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:01:19 2020. Staffing issues perhaps? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 09:14:25 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:05:17 2020. Strange. They have enough staff on Sundays to run the C. |
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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 23 10:18:29 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 09:14:25 2020. You really are a simpleton, aren't you. |
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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Mar 23 12:29:04 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:05:17 2020. C train worker positive for COVID-19, they need to disinfect all cars assigned or used on the C and all work locations that employee has been to like crew rooms, report locations etc. |
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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 23 13:04:47 2020, in response to No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:01:19 2020. So some C crews could be reassigned to A at Lefferts I guess.I'd run C to Lefferts and A to Far Rock. |
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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by andy on Mon Mar 23 13:10:38 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 23 13:04:47 2020. That's basically what the pattern is - except all are branded as A trains. Locals to/from Lefferts; expresses to/from Far Rockaway. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 23 13:16:22 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Mar 23 12:29:04 2020. Do they ever reassign train sets between the A & C ?Does a R68 "B" train still go into PM A train service ? |
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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 23 14:14:15 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Mar 23 12:29:04 2020. Ok.If a C worked is COVID + and touched a punch box for a lineup then the A crews are exposed. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 14:50:15 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Mar 23 12:29:04 2020. That sounds like if a worker on any line tested positive for COVID-19 then all cars used on that line would also have to be taken O/S to be disinfected. The problem with just disinfecting one line is that some employees might be working more than one line within the district. If that were the case, then what? Do you take all cars that service all the lines in the district O/S. If an employee in one of the lines that served Stl were to turn up positive would that mean that the crew room and T/D offices at Stl and all the cars of all the lines that serve Stl and all the crew quarters of all the lines originating at Stl would all have to be closed and removed from service? |
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Re: No (C) train service; service suspended |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 23 14:59:43 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Mar 23 12:29:04 2020. They know which cars he worked on, right? So this shouldn't involve "all cars assigned or used on the C" but I guess it does mean the crew quarters at 168 St. and Euclid Ave. have the virus. But it only remains infectious on non-living surfaces for a few hours, right? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 23 15:01:40 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 14:50:15 2020. It's kind of silly to think of containing the virus by subway line.It's highly contagious and does not care about lines. A T/O on the C line touches punch boxes shared by other lines so those lines so those employees are just as exposed. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 15:06:44 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 23 14:59:43 2020. for a few hours, right?Or a few days, maybe. Depends on lots of factors. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 15:21:32 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 23 15:01:40 2020. It's contagious but not ultra-contagious. Angela Merkel's doctor has it, but she didn't catch it from him. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 23 16:39:18 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 15:21:32 2020. More amusingly, Trudeau didn't catch it from his wife. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 17:15:05 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 09:14:25 2020. Doesn't matter because a certain portion of those who work the C on Sundays could be off on Mondays or work another line. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 17:15:05 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 09:14:25 2020. Doesn't matter because a certain portion of those who work the C on Sundays could be off on Mondays or work another line. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 17:19:06 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 23 13:16:22 2020. Yes. An R46 could be on the A one day and the C another day.Yes. The A line still uses an R68 for one round trip from the B line pool. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 17:25:46 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 17:15:05 2020. All I meant was that a staff shortage didn't seem like a sensible explanation for the C closure. And it wasn't the explanation. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 23 18:13:46 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 23 14:59:43 2020. Smooth surfaces like aluminum door handles - 72 hours. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 18:37:47 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Mar 23 12:29:04 2020. According to a coworker of my daughter who works at a 311 call center, he was waiting at one of the C Line stations at ENY a little after 800AM this morning and several minutes after the train was due at his station and didn’t come. an announcement was made that there would be a delay in service because one of the members of the train crew refused to take the rain any farther in service and just left it wherever it was causing the 311 employee to be late for work. I don’t have any more details than that since I don’t know the specific station but something does sound a bit strange about his story. |
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Posted by Jsun21 on Mon Mar 23 19:06:18 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 23 14:59:43 2020. Yeah but he punches in at Kronos, and signs in on the Dispatchers sheet, and holds the door on the way in to the Crew Reporting Center, and coughs and sneezes during fitness for duty, etc, etc. So its possible for this to bloom out up to 72hours. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 20:26:33 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 23 17:25:46 2020. NY Post reported a conductor had the virus. Most conductors from the AM tour were sent home.Tomorrow is another day. Hopefully they'll have enough extra list conductors pre-assigned Tuesday. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Mar 23 20:50:18 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 18:37:47 2020. " ...an announcement was made that there would be a delay in service because one of the members of the train crew refused to take the train any farther in service..."I can't believe that an announcement like that would be made. They would have given some general, euphemistic reason, maybe "equipment trouble," or "an incident, or maybe "a stalled train." |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Mar 23 20:53:40 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 14:50:15 2020. The way things are going these days, don't be surprised if the MTA reefs all current rolling stock and asks for a federal bailout to buy replacement stock. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 23 21:22:27 2020, in response to No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:01:19 2020. It seems to be back now. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Tue Mar 24 00:17:47 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 23 15:01:40 2020. how about all operators and conductors being required to wear gloves ? Easy rule, keeps people safe. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 24 01:40:24 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Mar 23 20:50:18 2020. Well, I got the story third hand. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 24 01:44:32 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by jailhousedoc on Tue Mar 24 00:17:47 2020. Actually, I though such a rule was already in effect. Even if the employees did wear gloves, the gloves would probably pick up some of the germs that settled on any surfaces the employee might touch and if washed the gloves would not be dry for the employee's next trip while the properly washed employee’s hands would be. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 08:14:38 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 23 21:22:27 2020. Yes; but I see that they have basically reverted to weekend service. No B, W, Z, or practically anything else that only runs on weekdays.mta.info |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Mar 24 10:41:50 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by jailhousedoc on Tue Mar 24 00:17:47 2020. The crews are in danger because transit is not issuing them "surgical" gloves and masks, especially conductors who have passengers coming up to their face asking questions.They do have work gloves which they are required to wear. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Mar 24 10:46:10 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 08:14:38 2020. And transit made the decision last night around midnight.Now crews are packed together in small crew rooms worse than ever. No 6 foot rule in transit. No masks either. Transit is putting their crews into danger. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:52:46 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 08:14:38 2020. Duplicative subway service: We will not run B, W, or Z service on Tuesday, March 24. Alternatives:B: Use C, D, and Q service instead. W: Use N and R service instead. Z: Use J service instead. Only Tuesday, March 24, one day ? Bill Newkirk |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Mar 24 11:20:00 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:52:46 2020. We don't know now Bill. They only made a decision about today late last night. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 11:24:29 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 08:14:38 2020. No 5 in Brooklyn. No 6 or 7 express.But presumably the L is still running more than once every 20 minutes and I would venture to guess the M is running to Continental and not 96th. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Mar 24 11:35:46 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:52:46 2020. I would interpret that as starting Tuesday, March 24. Just a one-day change doesn't make much sense. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:23:27 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:52:46 2020. My guess is it's a test. Ensure that the trains stay uncrowded even with these adjustments, then react accordingly. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:26:12 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 11:24:29 2020. The L won't get touched but the M may be next if all goes well today and there is no sign of significant crowding on Queens Blvd and 6th Ave. (Only speculation). |
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Posted by Jsun21 on Tue Mar 24 14:23:51 2020, in response to Re: No (C) train service; service suspended, posted by jailhousedoc on Tue Mar 24 00:17:47 2020. Sterilization procedures would require changing those gloves after each contamination event. The MTA hasn't really pushed to get the sufficient number of gloves out to do a clean hand operation and it would be logistically difficult/impossible.Doctors and Nurse have disposable gloves and sanitize after every interaction with certain things being done 'gloves on' and other 'gloves off'. Its much more difficult to get on a train, run for 30 minutes, sweat, punch at 59th street, open your bottle of water for a quick sip, go back and isolate a door leaf, snap test it, get back in the cab and repeat without slipping up and contaminating yourself on a SINGLE pair of gloves. |
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Re: (C) train service resumed |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 24 14:52:23 2020, in response to Re: (C) train service resumed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:23:27 2020. You may be right. On the legacy MTA site, all these changes are billed for "today", and not "until further notice" as you would expect. |
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